OnlyWonderBoy
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Oh man I actually forgot that it won. I guess the debate was much less heated than Saint's Row vs Skyrim so it didn't stand out as much to me.
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Oh man I actually forgot that it won. I guess the debate was much less heated than Saint's Row vs Skyrim so it didn't stand out as much to me.
Hot Coldman
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That one was nothing compared to Uncharted 2 vs Arkham Asylum. Man.
Freedom = $1.05
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Well, let me rephrase what i said: 2012 was a year where the games in contention were not the games people were expecting to be in contention. And X-com is fantastic, easily deserving of that title. Whether it's better than TLOU, to each their own, but people weren't shocked that a stellar Naughty Dog game won for 2013.
If Mordor or something that isn't a major franchise game or coming from a major, well known studio wins, then yeah this year and 2012 end up pretty similar in that regard.
Yeah but U2 vs AA is a legit discussion because both games deserved that title. It was a coin flip for me, so i could get that debate.
Skyrim vs SR3 was a joke. Ryan just kinda tapped out in the end there and they gave the award to a game that was a sloppy technical bore of a mess. It was just rough to listen to.
It's mostly places that were under the influence of the British Empire at some point or another.
Destiny's a disappointment but it's still easily top 10 material. Vault of Glass is pretty amazing. I'd pick it well ahead of a game like Titanfall, in which the titular Titans are walking bullseyes that are often liabilities rather than the fear-inspiring death machines they should have been.
Skyrim 100% deserves GOTY if SR3 is the top competition. Saints Row 3 had even worse mission structure and moment to moment gameplay than Skyrim did.
edit: Obviously though, neither was really the best game that year. But if the discussion is Skyrim or SR3, Skyrim. Skyrim Skyrim Skyrim, so many Skyrim.
edit: Obviously though, neither was really the best game that year. But if the discussion is Skyrim or SR3, Skyrim. Skyrim Skyrim Skyrim, so many Skyrim.
I didn't say that after seeing Enemy Unknown in action, while I never had any faith in Xenonauts. Beyond Earth though is just leaving me cold.
WrenchNinja
Member
The funniest or well dumbest part of Skyrim vs Saints Row 3 was that Ryan didnt even play Skyrim,
If your standard for a good year in games means producing 1 or 2 generation defining games, then sure. There were a lot of really solid games that came out that year. Stuff like Spec Ops, Dragons Dogma, Planetside 2, FTL, Sleeping Dogs or Hotline Miami aren't going to be on any 'best games of all time" lists but they were all enjoyable. Looking back, 2012 had quite a few of my favorite games this generation.
Doesn't take long to explain, and a game takes about 30-ish minutes. So expect a few games.
We usually get through games in 20-30 minutes, unless there is a ton of discussion. And by discussion I mean shouting.
Spirit of Jazz
Banned
I enjoyed most of the mission structure in SR3 and thought the moment to moment gameplay was really fun. I liked nothing about Skyrim with both of those things in particular being terrible.
The disappointing things about SR3 wasn't so much that it was a better/worse game. It's that Jeff and Ryan clearly loved it and they ultimately gave in to Brad's filibustering. Not to mention that Skyrim was going to get a billion GOTY rewards so the recognition to SR3 would be far more meaningful to the team that worked on it.
I always found that hilarious.
My favourite GOTY discussion will always be the whole 2010 best downloadable add-on discussion. Brad not backing down from Minerva's Den no matter what even though Vinny made compelling arguments like Brad not even playing Bioshock 2, the game Minerva's Den is adding on too.
Infinite Justice
Member
iirc Vinny was really bummed when it got delayed thinking it would be one of the games to get with his new PS4.
In hindsight the game must have been in really bad shape if they decided to release it at that point and i wonder what would have been the reaction then.
That whole debate had the ridiculous undertone of "Skyrim is a proper game of the year winner unlike SR3."
Sleeping Lesson
Member
This is my favorite as well. For the record, Brad was ABSOLUTELY RIGHT and they made the right choice.
SeventhSon
Member
Yup. Based on "Giantbomb values" SR3 should have been their GotY 2011.
Variety in tastes and values among a critical audience is a good thing. Ryan, God rest his soul, fell into the 'this game is more important to other people' trap and gave his vote to Skyrim, WHEN HE HADN'T EVEN PLAYED SKYRIM.
Miss you Ryan.
All I'm saying is if my name's on the list and somebody's arguing for SR3 to be the best game of the year, I'm Bradding the fuck out of that room too until we come to a more reasonable conclusion.
AuthenticM
Member
Please fight for the game when the time comes. Pull a Brad. Everyone will be against you, but you can and will prevail. I believe in you, Dan !
Best GOTY discussion they've ever done is still 2008 for me, the one that culminated in GTA vs. MGS. They picked 10 finalists that year before even getting to the podcast, so instead of culling a giant list by poking holes in a bunch of solid games they really fixated on the positive reasons why those finalists deserved to be there. Not sure they'll ever return to that format but it still stands out as memorable pure gaming discussion, still point new folks to that episode to get a taste of GB at the top of their game.
That's my favorite podcast they've ever done. It was just a 2 hour celebration of their 10 favorite games.
You liked all the thoroughly mediocre third person shooting in SR3?
I doubt they'll ever return to that format. Part of the reason why they do the GOTY is to show the whole process, which you partly lose if you pick the top 10 before recording.
Felix Lighter
Member
I'm so far behind on GB content. All my free time has been building, setting up and overclocking my new PC. It went smoothly but I was think as I was doing it how terrible it would be if I was recording it and trying to explain what I was doing as I was doing it. I empathize with Vinny and Alex.
Jimmyfenix
Member
game sux though
It will be interesting to see how Dan handles the GOTY stuff. The arguments can be intense/stupid
PinkCrayon
Member
The main guy's voice in Ethan Carter sounds like the AMC announcer.
Is there any specific game you are overclocking for? I ended up leaving it stock after fiddling around for a few days because there were hardly any games that were cpu limited when I built my PC a couple years ago.
AuthenticM
Member
MGS4 totally deserved the award more than GTA4. I wouldn't be surprised if the gang had changed their minds on the subject considering how they all agree that GTA4 has aged extremely poorly.
Felix Lighter
Member
I'm aiming for 144/120hz gaming and at higher framerates, CPU can definitely be a factor, in particular, single thread performance. Also, it's so easy and safe now-a-days, it just makes sense to go for the free performance.
Yeah, and don't get me wrong I enjoy the bickering and bargaining as well. But there is a tradeoff to the transparency of multi-day marathon recordings, it's hard to wax poetic and not fixate on nit picks after that much back and forth. Maybe taking a break after they determine a top 10 to properly celebrate their best games of the year is a good compromise between putting it all on tape and delivering a great final podcast.
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
bigwinnerx
Member
Sounds like Danny (via his Twitter) is turning The Lobby into UPF - Gamespot Edition. "Longer, looser".
Should be good, when some those folks let their hair down its a fun show and Danny can certainly run it. Have the GB guys visit just like he does on UPF.
He's said timoflegend, Eric Pope, Big Breakfast all coming up soon.
Should be good, when some those folks let their hair down its a fun show and Danny can certainly run it. Have the GB guys visit just like he does on UPF.
He's said timoflegend, Eric Pope, Big Breakfast all coming up soon.
N
Noray
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Yeah that was a great "wtf is this game" moment.
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
WrenchNinja
Member
we're not going to get persona this week are we
Dave Lang is one way to me watch a show.
But seriously, sounds like a change for the better. I feel bad for not watching a Danny production but it's just so boring in its current state.
If they record something today, they will normally not put it up on the schedule until in a couple of hours.
Probably just their pre-UPF show with a new name.
Spirit of Jazz
Banned
Sorry, did I fucking stutter in my post?
I found the moment to moment gameplay fun. Part of it was the world building, part of it was the humour, part of it was clearing a crowd of enemies with exploding head-shots then diving through a car wind shield to make a speedy escape. Also I played in on a PC so it was with mouse aim so it didn't turn into an auto-aimfest like GTA5.
Jimmyfenix
Member
Skyrim deserved to win GOTY hands down
I preferred SR2 style and hated 3
Chance Hale
Member
I didn't play GTA V with any auto aim, and GTAIV lets you use free aim by completely holding the trigger down on consoles.
And I thought Saints Row the Third was pretty poor at launch, and a vastly inferior game to the second in every way but being able jump through car windows so I can't understand how it got to that point. Doesn't really matter though, have never cared about GOTY discussions. Too much variation and diversity most years to really choose one game. Discussions about trends and general quality can be fun though.
And I thought Saints Row the Third was pretty poor at launch, and a vastly inferior game to the second in every way but being able jump through car windows so I can't understand how it got to that point. Doesn't really matter though, have never cared about GOTY discussions. Too much variation and diversity most years to really choose one game. Discussions about trends and general quality can be fun though.
I loved SR3's story and goofy atmosphere, but thought it played pretty badly. I know that Skyrim is a heavily flawed game, but it's still one of my favourite games of last gen. Might be me being a fanboy of the TES series and I totally understand why some people don't like the game, but I've spent about 300 hours in that world and think it's fucking fantastic.
AuthenticM
Member
As much as I love SR3, Skyrim totally deserved the award.
I highly doubt it. Patrick will enjoy it if it's a good game, maybe Brad and Alex too. The others? I'm not so sure about that.
I know dan might like as he a fan of re4, but Jeff on the other head Doesn't. Dont know about vinny