Pretty damn awesome idea. Ties in every mythos too.
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God of War Ascension |OT| Gods up, Foes down
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Pretty damn awesome idea. Ties in every mythos too.
Well a lot of things can be judged based of a walkthrough. I can def say the combat system is much much better. A lot of potential there. The enemy and level design is very uninspired mostly ( there are a few good things here and there). This also imo has the worst camera work in the series and it hampers the gameplay based on what I have seen. Playing the final game will maybe change my opinion on the combat system but not on any of my other points as those are fairly easy to judge from a video.
There is nothing spoilery in that post. No one is going to spoil the game.
AuthenticM
Member
Yes ! And we still have no clue on what David Jaffe is doing right now, except that he left Eat Sleep Play because he wanted to keep working on big, AAA games. There is a slim chance that he is working on God of War 4. After all, Sony brought him back to revive Twisted Metal.
edit: I know Jaffe is a Gaffer. Jaffe, if you're reading this, please direct the next proper God of War game ! The franchise needs you !
angels.phillipe
Neo Member
Holy fuck, just watched this, DO IT SMS, doesn't need to be exactly like it, but just thinking about all the gods from the most myths eras together is making my head explode.
And more puzzles in a GoW game = worst game in the series for me.
IDK why he left in the first place,Calling All Cars....seriously? a tag team of Barlog and Jaffe would kick so much ass.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
The killing Zeus fake-out at the beginning sounds great. The plot involving making Gods fight each other sounds interesting, but how do you translate that into gameplay? The suicide ending would have been better than what ended up happening.
It's still stupid to posit multiple redundant cosmologies. Why do the other Gods want Zeus's position? Do they not have their own shit, of equal importance, to deal with? There are a lot of wrinkles in the fiction that could make or break it, and I don't know how easy that stuff would be solve.
Well they could show Zeus as being the King of ALL the gods.
I'm a huge GOW fan and this was my most wanted game of the year, so i'm not going to cancel my preorder... but damn, now i'm so tempted.
SP seems so... flat and uninispired if compared to GOW 2 and GOW3.
The said they didn't want to show much of SP campaign because there were plenty of surprises and they didn't want to ruin the experience...
The truth is that there weren't so many impressive things to show.
njean777
Member
I know what it was for. I am not daft, people took offense to it because of the title of it. Do not try to act superior please, you are not special.
After Sessler's ridiculous review of Sly 4 where he criticized stuff like guns feeling out of place (despite being in the Sly series since the first game) and not having a deep, resonating story (because we all expect those in our 3D collect-a-thon platformers right) I knew this would be overblown too... and I was right!
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
Yeah, they could establish the other pantheons as regional managers under the Olympic corporate HQ. I could probably deal with that. Some people would flip out because they love Norse mythology so much. You can't please everyone.
Oh, I also liked the 3 wise men thing. It would have been very cool if GOW2 predicted it and then it happened. Little threads like that add a lot to a series. Frankly, I thought it would, which might have something to do with how GOW3 failed to live up to my imagination and I knocked it for that.
Hell,Jaffe or Barlog should have directed the entire series,would have done well for the continuity too. GoW 3 introduced the 'hope' bullshit and CoO was completely unnecessary and god knows how they f'd up Ascension though I hope not.
90TilInfinity
Member
The smh (and general tone of the post) wasn't really directed at you.
I can see how you would take it that way though, reading back.
njean777
Member
yeah sorry, I overreacted.
The final boss (clone and the 'hope' Kratos) battle was hot garbage too though I liked that '2D' fight and the arena battle,we weres supposed to get that epic three way among Kratos,Zeus and Gaia,I hope Ascension has it better.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
HOPE IS WHAT MAKES US STRONG
so bad
and then that 20 minute walking forward segment at the end that makes U3's desert seem fun and replayable
so bad
and then that 20 minute walking forward segment at the end that makes U3's desert seem fun and replayable
Dragon1893
Member
I'm not dismissing the opinions of people who only watched it but I'd like to hear more from the people who are actually playing. We're not talking about a movie here.
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
I´m just playing through GOW1 and story wise, and design wise it´s my favorite GOW. The brilliant level design is incredible. I think i am at the end. Have not finished it yet.
xenorevlis
Member
HueyFreeman
Banned
Well then you haven't played them. A lot of people count ghost as Sparta as potentially the best in the series, and they both certainly consumed perfectly good storyline material. But I appreciate the edict on the issue.
But I don't want 'nice' references presented in a Disney (or any other) fashion as the main storyline, the bad ass stories of 1 and 2 shat upon the story of 3 from the mountains.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Also, God of War 2 came out after the first Gears. That seems like an odd omission to make just because it's not on the same console.
freenudemacusers
Member
That's it? As someone else said, I expected some kind of prolonged violence like Hercules or some kind of vicious curb-stomping. lol what a non controversy.
HueyFreeman
Banned
Ok 5 games within the span of a gen. That's worse.
I love the franchise man. I'm just saying Sony has pounded the shit out of it.
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
Umm...
GOW & GOW II - PS2
GOW COO & GOS - PSP
GOW III & GOWA - PS3
They just brought the first 4 titles to HD remix to get extra money and get people who didn't play those titles to play them
PS2 versions got the GOW Collection, PSP versions got the Origins Collection treatment, then to sell it as a full package - GOW Saga by adding III
tiny raptor
Member
You consider 2 God of War titles per system pounding the shit out of it?
Yeah, ok buddy.
Yeah, ok buddy.
If your focus is heavily combat and action(or shootbang), perhaps.
Seems like overall that is dependent on the individual. People reread entire books or rewatch entire movies. If I wan't to get my twitch on and just focus on combat or action, I might play a short segement of an experience that is predominantly action focused(like a shooter or action titles in the vien of Bayonetta), although that seems that level of base interaction is why multiplayer exists. However, I have gone through Uncharted 3 in its entirety 4 times and even when I do hand pick chapters to go through its typically Chapters 17-20. There is certainly an audience out there that enjoys the cinematic experience and aren't "one and done" in that regard.
Seems like it is difficult to speak for everyone and/or all things.
This is insanely cool. The ending with the three wisemen was even more interesting, and that's coming from me as a Christian. And the part about Kratos going to Hades to join his family....man.
Why didn't they do this?? It would have been so unbelievable. Ugh. I wish Jaffe was still working on God of War..
The vision for GoW3 from Jaffe was so amazing, and that explains why there was that mention of the 3 wise man on GoW2.
About giving Kratos a new mythology after the ending of GoW3 I don't think it would mix so well, so far what I would love is the set from the GoW1 "The Fate of the Titan" unlockable video,
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About giving Kratos a new mythology after the ending of GoW3 I don't think it would mix so well, so far what I would love is the set from the GoW1 "The Fate of the Titan" unlockable video,
with a new "Marked one" who finds the Blades of Exile
Dragon1893
Member
Anyone else have this problem?
Net_Wrecker
Member
Or you could just look at Uncharted 2 which has, by far, the best balance of cinematic design and playability. You constantly focus on "combat and shootbang" in these arguments, but that's not the point. Uncharted 2 has a general gameplay flow that's much better executed than something like Uncharted 3. It's not about getting to the shooting segments as quickly as possible, it's about the entire game being conducive to repeat playthroughs. The more you artificially slow the player down, the less replayable the game becomes.
Dragon1893
Member
Not this shit again...
Equally subjective and I refer you to our earlier conversation.
But anyway, God of War have had these kind of moments for sometime, I don't see how they would all of a sudden be negative now.
Is that good, by the way?
ViewtifulJC
Banned
UC2 big marketed scene: the train, a combat-heavy environment that goes on for multiple chapters, elegently mixing spectacle with a lot of actual shooting, running, and ya know, gameplay.
UC3 big marketing scene: the airplane/desert, which is a QTE fight, followed by 45 seconds of sloppy gunplay, followed by ten minutes of pushing forward on a stick in the desert
The only reason I'm hype for The Last of Us is the fact that the UC2 director is suppose to be behind it. He hasn't fallen into the trap of MORE CINEMATICS MORE SLOW WALKING MORE QTES UC3 fell into
Net_Wrecker
Member
It's not "all of sudden" for me. I can't speak for anyone else, but I've always disliked those moments. Maybe "disliked" is a strong word. I don't have a problem with them initially, but it's on replays where I sour on them. A 15 second slow walk for dramatic purposes, fine. Anything longer than maybe half a minute and I get pulled out of the experience. My brain immediately goes to "God, this will suck next time around." So no, maybe "dislike" isn't a strong word, at least when they're long and/or frequent.
I agree with this. As I said before doing Cinematic games is extremely difficult and is more easy to fall flat on your face as a developer. UC2 is an exception and not a norm. I doubt even ND can repeat the greatness of UC2 ever again which is why I am glad they are going for a more gamey and systems driven game in TLOU.
Interesting reading some of the responses. I guess for some people they dont consider replay value as the strong point in the game and consider the experience playing it for the first time more important while some such as yourself prefer to have replay value in games instead of being wowed for the first time and feeling bored the second time. I dont know which camp I fall under. The Microwave scene in MGS4 for eg worked for me even though it is essentially a UC3 sequence with a button replacing an analog stick. UC3 however did not work for me.
Raitosaito
Member
Just go to a 24hr wal-mart