ViewtifulJC
Banned
Oh man, so much this. Latest time was "slow walking around with Raiden because he feels bad" in Metal Gear Rising. Luckily it's only a minute. And so much else of the game is so good it barely registers for me.
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God of War Ascension |OT| Gods up, Foes down
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Oh man, so much this. Latest time was "slow walking around with Raiden because he feels bad" in Metal Gear Rising. Luckily it's only a minute. And so much else of the game is so good it barely registers for me.
tiny raptor
Member
What a post, I couldn't agree more.
If I could be honest, I find Uncharted 2 to really over use the "Stop and pop " formula of just moving from room to room and clearing it out. The moments after the caravan leading up to getting into Shangri-La felt like filler and a real chore. We can argue over the complexity and argue over the quality but UC3 is able to keep things diverse.
But a cutscene doesn't pull you out of the scene? The fact that the controller is put down and things still play out doesn't bother you, at all?
Dragon1893
Member
I swear to god this happens in every gaf thread.
What happens in every thread? Uncharted discussion?
Dragon1893
Member
Oh I thought you were referring to the discussion about 'cinematics',nvm carry on.
Sure.
Net_Wrecker
Member
To bring this back to God of War discussion, here's an example I'm fine with:
God of War III near end spoilers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BOec4tO5aY&list=PLDB1553E4F8FD5E84&#t=2m25s
THAT is a "push up to move" cinematic kind of scene I'm okay with. The simple fact that they don't artificially hamper your movement speed and don't drag it out makes all the difference. If it's between a cutscene I can usually skip in any decent game or a minute+ of slow walking that provides nearly the same amount of interactivity as a cutscne that I usually CAN'T skip in ANY game, I'll ALWAYS choose the cutscene.
I'm not fond of such 'slowed down' sequences myself,the cutscenes should always have a reason to exist other than 'look it's awesome!' ,luckily the guy who played the game said these sequences are very short.
Fine with smaller moments, like when the camera pulls up behind Kratos when he is squeezing through smaller spaces?
Or when the gates open into Tartarus?
The latter or if we can get over with the first one fairly quickly then both.
Dragon1893
Member
The former are to hide loadings though.
It is funny to see how cutscenes have evolved over the years. They were first used to depict what actual engines could not do, now they have become a method of story telling, but even that has seemed to change slightly. Case in point the arkham asylum alleyway with young Bruce proves that these cineamtic moments are becoming more popular and more effective for telling and conveying stories and emotions.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Ya know one of the little things I love about God of War 2? They added the ability to speed up the climbing sections. I almost never just push the control stick through those, I'm always mashing x to to move faster across the ceilings, or to jump up that ladder, or hop up that wall.
I really missed that going back to GoW 1. So many cliffsides!
I really missed that going back to GoW 1. So many cliffsides!
What do you mean 'what'? you can't run through those 'walking' sequences like you can with the wall hugging ones and that opening the gates of Tartarus scene was awesome anyways
Even the portable ones don't have that,a shame.
Again,we can go through those sequences quickly and they don't drag on unlike the 'walking' sequences though how long they are in this game remains to be seen.
Net_Wrecker
Member
Both are acceptable as long are they're short, and for the former, infrequent. I can accept that the "slip through small spaces" thing is usually a form of background loading, but I still hope we see the end of that technique next gen with more and faster RAM.
The difference is that the normal movement speed in Batman is walking. Aside from combat and the gliding in Arkham City, the traversal in Batman isn't all that fast. They also pace those storytelling moments well as to not annoy or intrude that much. I'd still like the option to skip all of them, especially the long intros to both games.
The_Hitcher89
Member
The first game was pretty much perfect at achieving what they set out to achieve for franchise bullet-points. The only big changes I'd have liked from then to now would have been a reward for long, unique combos and more enemy variety. Perhaps Ascension is a bridge too far, will see when I get it
I'm waiting for someone to come in and tell us it needs to be more like Dark Souls, happens in most threads these days.
The_Hitcher89
Member
We already had the 'Platinum should take the reigns' shite we have in every thread earlier on.
pharmboy044
Member
Don't forget open world. This needs to go open world otherwise it can't innovate. lol, such bullshit.
Seems like a bit of an overreaction
ViewtifulJC
Banned
"What all video games ever made and those not made yet can learn from Dark Souls"
The_Hitcher89
Member
Make it cyberpunk as well, or at least steampunk
I'd love to see a cyberpunk Kratos, it'd look hilarious
ViewtifulJC
Banned
It's like how every time there's even a remotely eccentric character that needs to be cast for a movie, Johnny Depp is always the first reply.
Always
Always
The_Hitcher89
Member
To be fair, Johnny Depp is probably the first person the movie execs think of as well. With Tim Burton
When did they say that?
HueyFreeman
Banned
Guys, I love God of War too. That doesn't change the fact that in the last 5 years (March 2008 - March 2013), there have been 4 main line titles released, regardless of system. That is a lot.
Hence:
EGM:
Polygon:
IGN:
I love this series, and I'm excited to day one this entry . I'm not at all saying I agree with the above reviews - as I haven't played the game, nor have most of you - but let's not bury our heads in the sand and pretend that there isn't some degree of franchise fatigue going on here, a lot of which is reflected in this being the lowest scoring GOW ever.
Also, OT's don't just have to be hype threads, we can actually - ya know - discuss things.
I really don't think it's fair to include the PSP games, since they were made by a different developer and were played by a fraction of the players of the main games. Same reason I wouldn't consider the GTA series milked.
Original Man
Member
bolded is so true
Oh god Im doing this real quick, please no spoilers on this page because I got a quick question!!
I want to preorder this game. Where should I get it in the USA?? Like which place has the best preorder goodies and is the collector's worth it? Thank you. I need to do this tomorrow as I came late home today from Bowling and GS is closed I believe. (east coast)
I want to preorder this game. Where should I get it in the USA?? Like which place has the best preorder goodies and is the collector's worth it? Thank you. I need to do this tomorrow as I came late home today from Bowling and GS is closed I believe. (east coast)
Original Man
Member
amazon
$10 credit, includes the preorder stuff. no collector edition is worth it imo. just go standard
angels.phillipe
Neo Member
Amazon have a 10$ credit, Best Buy have a Mjolnir for MP and Gamestop have Leonidas from 300 for MP, i'd choose amazon, but it's your choice obviously.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
Here's how I view shootbang segments vs. cinematic oh so emotion-filled experience segments.
On replays, a good action sequence gets better. You derive more enjoyment than you did the first time because you are now more expert in the mechanics and you will start to notice things you didn't before when you were a novice going through your first experience. You are more competent and you get to express it.
On replays, no matter how good the cinematic is, the impact is lessened. It will never be as evocative as it was the first time. The longer the sequence, the more tedious it becomes to play through it. You might still appreciate the graphics and the cinematic angles, and how it embellishes the theme of the game you're playing. I can appreciate all of those things. But I don't always want to. Definitely not the 4th or 5th time.
Cinematics can be skipped. "Interactive" storytelling cannot. It does NOT enhance anything for me to continue inputting rudimentary commands while I watch. I am NOT taken out of the experience when a cutscene happens any more than when I'm forced to walk slowly in one direction. I'm only offended by a cutscene if it exceeds a certain length and cannot be skipped.
And just so that I'm actually talking about GOW, I have not generally had any problems with these kinds of sequences in GOW games. Not a huge fan of the near-end one in GOW3, but otherwise, I don't mind the camera zooming in while Kratos edges through a crack. It shows off the stellar modeling, texturework, and lighting, and it's brief.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
Too late for release date shipping unless you want to pay for 1-day shipping, FYI.
god of War 3 came out almost 3 years ago for the love of GOD. give me a freaking break with these franchise fatigue crap.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
So you're betting that GOW:A is just a significantly worse game than all the other GOWs, and not that the press has decided they aren't interested in GOW anymore? The lower scores are indisputable. Which explanation do you think fits best?
A game doesn't have to come out every year to create franchise fatigue. The entries just need to feel like they're too similar to the average player/reviewer (i.e., someone who isn't a superfan with in-depth knowledge of every GOW game).
I can appreciate the changes they've made from game to game, but I don't blame people who have basically played each game once and then moved on for saying "holy shit this hasn't changed enough in 7 years."
I just wanted to say
I am replaying god of war III now and my mind is just completely blown away at how insane this game looks. Not only that, but it plays amazingly well.
The intro is just perfect blend of cinematography, set pieces and spectacle. Not to mention the pacing is spot on. Atleast until you get get to the labrynth and it all falls to shit, But everything before then is gaming perfection.
The whole hades section looks like playable CG at times. I am still blown away by it.
from watching the walkthrough on ascension, whilst the combat looks like a major improvement, unfortunetly everything else looks like a downgrade.
I will still buy it day one, and it is probably unfair of me to judge a game based on a youtube clip, but the game isn't going to drastically change when I am playing it, is it?
I am replaying god of war III now and my mind is just completely blown away at how insane this game looks. Not only that, but it plays amazingly well.
The intro is just perfect blend of cinematography, set pieces and spectacle. Not to mention the pacing is spot on. Atleast until you get get to the labrynth and it all falls to shit, But everything before then is gaming perfection.
The whole hades section looks like playable CG at times. I am still blown away by it.
from watching the walkthrough on ascension, whilst the combat looks like a major improvement, unfortunetly everything else looks like a downgrade.
I will still buy it day one, and it is probably unfair of me to judge a game based on a youtube clip, but the game isn't going to drastically change when I am playing it, is it?
The press isn't allowed to decide things. They still aren't fatigued from CoD.