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Gran Turismo 6 Review Thread
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Or, and it's just an idea, people expect later entries to be better. If they are not, or there is not enough improvement, they get marked down. Imagine if Nintendo released a reskin of Super Mario 64. They would be laughed at, rightly, even though SM64 was an awesome game.
Expectations change over time.
gundamkyoukai
Member
I agree with that but IMO it's better to have weather \ day night on some tracks than none at all .( spend countless hours in GT5 on tracks that had them )
The problem with PS3 GT IMO is all the legacy stuff , PS2 cars , tracks , sound ,online etc etc .
Take the damage model for eg i am wondering if it won't work on older PS2 cars good because they not model like the new ones .
GT has a lot of content but it's time to put some of it to rest , the legacy stuff has to go or GT also going to have the perception that it half done .
Or do what PC Sims do, focus on a handful of series: Aussie V8s, GT2/3, Formula 3, Mazda, Kart, Mini Challenge (god bless you GSC2013), BTTC and follow the progression of a drivers career. It will give many people the ability to drive standard road worthy cars before progressing towards the more exotic. I'd rather have fewer cars which really feel unique and behave like their real world counterparts.
Risk Breaker
Member
You should take a look at this direct-feed video at "1440p" for higher quality:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rI1kfYhX5qc
It's really impressive.
Dragon1893
Member
Yeah but I'm a GT fan since the day the first was released so I'm looking for opinions from like-minded people that have experience with the franchise and racing games in general. The venturebeat review is completely useless to me.
videogamer, gameractor, EGM (allthough that is a decent score).. are they not reputable sites..?
Uuugh, I clicked play and just remembered that I'm shaped'for the month.....my internet doesn't come back to Tuesday so only images for now. Videos won't even start up. I have seen a few videos already and they blew me away. I think graphics are very important for racing games and Polyphony never disappoint (ignoring standards in GT5).
GT5 at first was a disappointment for me, yes. Over time with the patches it grew better. Mostly I blame the way GT5 came out because they spent so much R&D time on the ps3 hardware. In the long run it's helped them out, especially with GT6. For GT6 I really don't see anything half done at all, and features not included day one (sounds, Track editor) it's because they're taking their time to do it right. Eventually it'll be freely patched, other than engine sounds which is up in the air.
Top Gear in GT5 was half-done because MS had gotten the Top Gear licenses around the same time. Even the Stig wasn't shown in GT5 because they couldn't use him, even though they showed him in one of the trailers. Eventually you were only able to use a similar looking racing suit of his.
The track creator is the only one of its kind in this generation of games, and even next-gen. If they need more time trying to get the GPS data to accurately recreate a track in-game in a large environment like Ronda, I don't blame them. I don't see any other developer striving to push for things like this.
Is Online in GT6 half-done? How do you know? They just opened it up on release day.
Is rain and weather half-done in GT6? Doesn't look like it. They had time change and weather on only a number of selected tracks in GT5, but now all new tracks in Gt6 and even some old ones support it. It's taken time but they finally manage to get a handle of the technology. Do other games even have this? No.
I also see nothing incredibly wrong with the damage modeling. It's there, but the ps3 can only do so much.
I've seen talks of the livery editor but I just think it's not high on their priority list, just like weather or time change isn't on the priority list of other developers.
Really the only thing I question is the engine sounds. Either they just failed to put enough guys in the sound engineering department, lack of understanding of sound engineering, or there really are limitations to what else they can achieve on the ps3. I do wonder what their sound engineers have been doing all this time if the sounds are still so similar to GT5.
Risk Breaker
Member
Kenshin001
Member
Eh, not really. EG Italy for example said:
I don't think fans want to casualize the game, they want the game to evolve. By the sounds of it GT still hasn't progressed much with damage, sounds, AI, standard cars, car selection etc. These are all things fans of GT have criticised. People who just keep defending Kaz no matter what and sticking their head in the sand are part of the problem.
LoveCake
Member
I loved the first game, the second one was ok, i didn't bother with 3 & 4, i did get GT5 & i really didn't like it at all, i was a Forza fan by then, i will wait quite a while before buying this because of the problems with GT5 & the bugs etc it had, i also do not like the micro-transactions either, i know Forza has the same issues, but i am happy to wait, i would only get GT6 when i get a PS4 which will not be until Q2 2014 anyway.
metacritic has a substantial effect on sales, which in turn affects future projects and game dev through the industry.
H3avyM3tal
Banned
I really don't get the polygon review. It's short as hell. Do they usually write short reviews, because last couple of reiews I read over there were alot longer and 'in depth' this this.
I read reviews like I listen to a friend talk about a game. It gives me the same amounts of confusion though...
I read reviews like I listen to a friend talk about a game. It gives me the same amounts of confusion though...
astarisborn94
Member
It is probably not going to sell as well as previous major entries (excluding the PSP game) due to it coming out after the launch of the PS3. However, I still think it will sell at least 5+ million when all is said and done.
Yeah. Not sure if it's a translated review from another language though, as the author seems nordic.
Anyway, this is one of the screen captures in that review, which they sure is "taken from the real game running in real time" implying their captures have no bullshit and are true to the actual aspect of the game:
I mean, holy shit that is bad capture equipment.
That makes it look worse than GT5. lol
I was playing GT6 for a few hours yesterday, and then played Forza 5 directly afterwards. I don't think GT6 compares very well at all during actual gameplay. Forza 5 is hardly the most impressive looking nextgen game, but realtime GT6 looks very much a last gen game in direct comparison. Putting it against Driveclub would be ridiculous imo.
That said, I don't see how GT6 is scoring lower than Forza 5 overall. Forza almost feels like a demo in comparison.
Personally didn't feel like I had a problem with GT5's economy (might have been due to prized cars), I did have an issue with A spec 24h endurance races though which was when I stopped playing.
Grinding was always a part of gt series. It's like getting everything + lvl 99 everyone in final fantasy
Yeah, it really is noticeable. The lighting might be great in GT but as a package, it doesn't really compare to FM.
IncandescentPrecept
Banned
Games are now reviewed based on expectations?
velociraptor
Junior Member
What are the main problems the reviewers have with GT6?
Uhm yes since about forever..... And especially with sequels it was always the case that games that don't improve or fix issues getting mostly lower scores then the original.
5 was the first one I ever bought and it immediately made me think of an RPG. It's a car RPG. *Dat Japanese game design.
Based on the reception 5 got and now this is it fair to compare their next-gen receptions to how Final Fantasy has been perceived?
same ol' archaic gameplay
LOL When have they not been, and it is generally how they should be reviewed. Of course you can take it too far. 'I expected an arcade racer, 3/10' is not reasonable. But expecting improvements from future iterations is not unreasonable.
Red Chocobo
Banned
Return of the king.
FYI, time of release plays a role.
What would get a "9" back in 2010 wouldn't automatically get a "9" now.
velociraptor
Junior Member
I don't understand. How is the gameplay still considered arhaic? The gameplay itself should be a positive given how much PD have improved the driving model and physics.
Snkfanatic
Banned
Can't wait to pick up my copy after work!
Swedish reviewer totally slaughtered the game over at gamereactor:
- It's a hysterically mediocre racing game and one of the years biggest disappointments.
- The old rigid format where you start from the bottom, working your way up the ranks is old fashioned.
- Drivers licenses are obligatory now, which makes the progression feel slow. One of the most boring experiences in a game this year.
- The game feels forced and too newb friendly. Everything's locked.
- Some old problems have been fixed, but new ones have surfaced.
- Driving feels mechanic and lifeless. No dynamic or unpredictability like a real race does in real life. Forza 4 did this right.
- Standard cars feels like playing a PS2 game.
+ Drifting's good in the game.
5/10
They really trashed the game in the review. I'm still waiting for my copy to arrive, so we'll see how it feels. Eurogamer gave it 9/10, and their reviews are usually in line with what I think about games, so I'm hopefully. We'll see though.
Do I see motion blur an such? Looks incredible, but doesn't sound so. But incredible nonetheless.
Fried Food
Banned
Considering probably 5% of the reviewers used a racing wheel I don't see how their opinions on the driving amount to anything
Once again my actual implication is that GT5 scored way higher than it should have, especially at launch when much of it was broken (the economy). Have no real issue with the scoring of GT6 - not that I give review scores much credence anyway. Prefer to read the actual reviews and make my mind up from those
They never even reviewed the driving. So I'll just assume if this game was on ps4 it would get 3 more points and move on. Lol I'm sure others will do the same
And expecpectations change over times?lol
Jim Sterling
Member
As the crowd zeroes in on a few reviews that disagree with their preconceptions, even among a slew of ones that do, I would like to remind them how unfortunate that behavior is: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/7859-Dragons-Frown
Ravensmash
Member
It's very good (so far). Slower cars finally feel engaging to drive.
Green Yoshi
Member
It's not like Mario Kart. ;-)
It's the review thread cycle, Jim. You cannot stop Nature from doing its thing.