What we've heard so far:
1. It's Greece's fault!
2. It's Europe's fault!
3. Please just give us some proposals!
4. Europe must be destroyed.
What we've heard so far:
4. Europe must be destroyed.
You thought Tsipras held the referendum, campaigned for No, and said he'd resign if the vote was Yes as part of a dastardly attempt to get himself fired?
This seems...implausible.
That guy is drunk, you can't convince me otherwise.
Actually it's what the Telegraph are reporting now http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/11724924/Europe-is-blowing-itself-apart-over-Greece-and-nobody-can-stop-it.html
The German MEPs are all delivering exactly the same speech again and again. Super dull.
You thought Tsipras held the referendum, campaigned for No, and said he'd resign if the vote was Yes as part of a dastardly attempt to get himself fired?
This seems...implausible.
I'm going to need a transcript of Iglesias claiming that Europe needs to be destroyed. So far he's been very much pro EU, even if he despises the status quo.
I haven't read this thread other than this page but I watched this circus. It was another guy who said that.
It was Farage who said it. Nothing new, coming from him.I'm going to need a transcript of Iglesias claiming that Europe needs to be destroyed. So far he's been very much pro EU, even if he despises the status quo. And it doesn't resonate at all with his campaign in Spain.
It was Farage who said it. Nothing new, coming from him.
It was Farage who said it. Nothing new, coming from him.
No dude, a Spanish dude's last sentence literally was "The European Union must be destroyed".
That probably actually makes Finland and Estonia the hardest obstacles to overcome, with Germany in 3rd.
No dude, a Spanish dude's last sentence literally was "The European Union must be destroyed".
Yeah, my mistake. What Farage said was that the euro project was beggining to die.No dude, a Spanish dude's last sentence literally was "The European Union must be destroyed".
I think that was our polish nutso Janusz Korwin Mikke. But he's also a man who says stuff like "women are by nature stupider than men"And yesterday he did nazi salute during session
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No dude, a Spanish dude's last sentence literally was "The European Union must be destroyed".
The plan was to lose, resign and go back to being a left wing protest party moaning about others making difficult decisions, even Paul Mason Syiza's biggest foreign journalist suppoter has re-tweeted it
I think that was our polish nutso Janusz Korwin Mikke. But he's also a man who says stuff like "women are by nature stupider than men"And yesterday he did nazi salute during session
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I think that was our polish nutso Janusz Korwin Mikke. But he's also a man who says stuff like "women are by nature stupider than men"And yesterday he did nazi salute during session
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYRHMODPK60He said "Ein Reich, ein Volk, ein Ticket!" and then he did the salute. It was in regards to the one ticket for all kinds of transport in EU.
Tsipras isn't saying anything really so this is a fitting end I guess.
Could you link to Mason's tweet, plz?
For the interested.
no wonder the eu is doing so great, with such fine gentlemen in the front.
first ep session i watched. a bit disheartening.
Does anyone have a direct link of the stream?
Paul Mason verified
(2/2) re @AmbroseEP spot on with “requisition BoG & default on SMP” plan - but Tsipras knew OXI going to win from Friday night.
about 4 hours ago from TweetDeck
Paul Mason verified
Read @AmbroseEP telegraph.co.uk/finance/econom… - a couple of disagreements. Maxim was not a “wake” on Sunday - see my upcoming documentary (1/2)
https://twitter.com/paulmasonnews/status/618666738746556416
Doesnt deny the plan was to lose and absolve responsibility and he is pratically embedded in Syriza's head quarters
A Evans-Pritchard ‏@AmbroseEP 4 hHá 4 horas
@paulmasonnews Was thinking of the late night talks, until 3.30 AM apparently. That's when it became maudlin. But 'motive' is subtle matter
Paul Mason ‏@paulmasonnews 4 hHá 4 horas
@AmbroseEP true - i think we talk to different wings of reality! but congrats on the piece
Oliver Rivers ‏@maxrothbarth 5 hHá 5 horas
@paulmasonnews @AmbroseEP Do either of you have a source to stand up claim Tsipras wanted to lose? Nothing in AE-P's story does.
Paul Mason ‏@paulmasonnews 5 hHá 5 horas
@maxrothbarth @AmbroseEP I don’t think he wanted to lose. I think some in cabinet may have. They were certainly unsure of win until Friday
Paul Mason ‏@paulmasonnews 5 hHá 5 horas
(2/2) re @AmbroseEP spot on with “requisition BoG & default on SMP” plan - but Tsipras knew OXI going to win from Friday night.
Does anyone have a direct link of the stream?
That probably actually makes Finland and Estonia the hardest obstacles to overcome, with Germany in 3rd.
People in my country have been like this many years. Tsipras is our hero. Seeing him on good mood gives me confidence. It's the first time in my life I've faith in a greek Prime Minister.This Tsipras just sits there laughing. So pathetic while the people in his country are on the streets without any money.
Keep in mind politicians in several countries are facing their own anti austerity movements and absolutely do not want to send the message that dragging your feet on implementing bailout agreements is a viable way to get away with not paying debts.
The eastern Europeans especially are unsympathetic given they successfully navigated much tougher auserity than Greece to get back to growth.
Merkel is far from the one pulling all the strings. Just let Greece leave seems to be the growing sentiment.
BUT BUT BUT THEY ARE STILL POORER THAT GREEKS..... What?
No country has, in history, implemented austerity was hard as Greece did 2010-2014.
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for example.
I can't watch it with how useless EP's stream is. RT pls.Juncker on fayah