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[Draugoth]

According to Digital Foundry channel, GTA VI should only run at 30fps on the PS5 Pro, as the new hardware doesn't have what it takes to reach 60fps, requiring a “technological miracle”.

I still assume that GTA VI will be a 30fps game, unless some kind of technological miracle happens, and there is no technology in the PS5 Pro that can change that.

DF says that the fact that the PS5 Pro keeps the same CPU is disappointing, having to leave all the 60fps burden to the GPU and the PSSR upscaling technology. This wouldn't help CPU-limited games that focus heavily on simulation, such as GTA VI and the recently released Warhammer 40K: Space Marine 2.

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[LectureMaster]

But it will run 60 on series S, right?

 

[Codeblew]

So it will run at 15 FPS on PS5 Amateur?

 

[Bojji]

But it will run 60 on series S, right?

With frame generation from 30fps, for sure.

Using cut down 2019 cpu in 800 Euro console is just incredible. Looks like they blowed all their budged on those cool racing stripes.

 

[Kotaro]

WAT?!?

so what is the point of PS5 Pro really?

 

[MrTroubleMaker]

 

[Bojji]

So it will run at 15 FPS on PS5 Amateur?

30 fps but with lower resolution and worse RT.

 

[DavidGzz]

That was the only reason I would ever spend $800 on a mid gen refresh. I expect next-gen systems to be about the same price so I'll just wait till then.

 

[Codeblew]

WAT?!?

so what is the point of PS5 Pro really?

You assume DF has any credibility.

 

[tusharngf]

30fps it is... but they will release a next gen 60fps patch after 3yrs

 

[Bojji]

You assume DF has any credibility.

And what's your source that it won't be 30fps?

 

[EDMIX]

lol oh its running 60fps, simply depends on what resolution it will be running it though and what sacrifices will be made to hit that 60fps

 

[Vick]

The day prior to the Trailer Reveal, game was leaked with a gameplay video, running at 1440p at 60fps in Performance Mode.

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Purported leaks of Grand Theft Auto 6 have gone viral, and now reports indicate they may have come from a child of a Rockstar Games employee.

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We should start making some serious bets on this matter.

 

[GHG]

So now they are just making shit up based on feelings and emotions?

Sensational stuff.

 

[kazuyamishima]

It's better to wait and see, I don't play GTA games any way.

But DF, really? those Shills bashed the PS5 before launch only to release a video this year saying they couldn't understand why the console is doing the results it's doing.

 

[adamsapple]

The day prior to the Trailer Reveal, game was leaked with a gameplay video, running at 1440p at 60fps in Performance Mode.

Grand Theft Auto 6 in-game footage leaked by child of Rockstar Games employee

Purported leaks of Grand Theft Auto 6 have gone viral, and now reports indicate they may have come from a child of a Rockstar Games employee.

www.tweaktown.com

We should start making some serious bets on this matter.

Bro, fucking Warhammer, a linear action game with no RT, runs at DRS 720p to 1080p.

What makes anyone think GTA VI will run at 1440p in Performance mode on current hardware.

 

[Bojji]

lol oh its running 60fps, simply depends on what resolution it will be running it though and what sacrifices will be made to hit that 60fps

Resolution don't change CPU load, game will have to be heavily cut down (compare to trailer) to run 60fps on that ancient cpu.

 

[Kacho]

WAT?!?

so what is the point of PS5 Pro really?

The same as the mid gen refreshes last gen. Higher resolutions and more stable performance depending on the game.

 

[onQ123]

According to Digital Foundry channel, GTA VI should only run at 30fps on the PS5 Pro, as the new hardware doesn't have what it takes to reach 60fps, requiring a “technological miracle”.



DF says that the fact that the PS5 Pro keeps the same CPU is disappointing, having to leave all the 60fps burden to the GPU and the PSSR upscaling technology. This wouldn't help CPU-limited games that focus heavily on simulation, such as GTA VI and the recently released Warhammer 40K: Space Marine 2.

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Bet they will be wrong

 

[Vick]

What makes anyone think GTA VI will run at 1440p in Performance mode on current hardware.

The fact that I saw that footage with my own eyes a day before the Trailer dropped?

And aside from that, that Rockstar made GTA V on a 360? And RDR2 on an Xbox One?

 

[Codeblew]

And what's your source that it won't be 30fps?

I am not the one pulling shit out of my ass. Nobody but RS knows how it will run on the PS5 and PS5 Pro.

 

[Bojji]

The fact that I saw that footage with my own eyes a day before the Trailer dropped?

And aside from that, that Rockstar made GTA V on a 360? And RDR2 on an Xbox One?

RDR2 on Xbox one looked like shit and gta5 was 25fps on Xbox 360.

 

[Bitstream]

Bro, fucking Warhammer, a linear action game with no RT, runs at DRS 720p to 1080p.

What makes anyone think GTA VI will run at 1440p in Performance mode on current hardware.

Because Saber isn't Rockstar, and doesn't have 2 billion to spend on making cutting edge software?

 

[West Texas CEO]

Pre-order cancelled!

 

[adamsapple]

The fact that I saw that footage with my own eyes a day before the Trailer dropped?

And aside from that, that Rockstar made GTA V on a 360? And RDR2 on an Xbox One?

Both run at an unstable 30 FPS and RDR2 runs < 900p on Xbox One.

Also how do you know that footage was running on, or representative of, consoles?

Because Saber isn't Rockstar, and doesn't have 2 billion to spend on making cutting edge software?

Rockstar isn't miracle workers, it took them 2 generations beyond its original release to get GTA V to run at 60 fps on console hardware.

 

[adamsapple]

Vick

Per DF, the first official trailer runs at dynamic 1440p, with some counts showing below 1440p, at 30fps.

Good luck getting a 1440p/60 mode on current consoles.

 

[Bitstream]

Digital foundry have been wrong on too many occasions to take their word as gospel any longer, I'll hold out hope for 60. Interesting thing with the way R* rolls is, whenever it releases, unless the NextBox is out, the best experience will be on PS5Pro for a year or two. Doesn't matter how deep your pockets are, either you play it as released or you wait ~18 months.

 

[MDSLKTR]

And it does, DF will never live it down.

 

[Vick]

RDR2 on Xbox one looked like shit and gta5 was 25fps on Xbox 360.

Oh wow, I change my mind then..

RDR2, every version including the best one (Xbox Series X V.100) is a damn Xbox One game, and looks better than 90% or more of free-roams on the market today.

And absolutely speechless at dismissing what developing GTA V on a 360/PS3 meant simply because it "ran at 25fps".

Both run at an unstable 30 FPS and RDR2 runs < 900p on Xbox One.

RDR2 runs at rock solid 60fps with PS4 Pro settings on a modded PS5 in backwards mode.

 

[Justin9mm]

If GTA 6 can't even run 60fps @ native 1080p upscaled on Pro.. That's absolutely fucked! I think we are at the point where Sony needs to be called out on not keeping up with the industry. No one is expecting PC performance but jesus christ!

 

[Fake]

$700p30 NTSC
$800p30 PAL

 

[Mr.Phoenix]

Bro, fucking Warhammer, a linear action game with no RT, runs at DRS 720p to 1080p.

What makes anyone think GTA VI will run at 1440p in Performance mode on current hardware.

So all devs are the same?

 

[adamsapple]

RDR2 runs at rock solid 60fps with PS4 Pro settings on a modded PS5 in backwards mode.

uh ok ?

It's a last gen game, you're just proving my point.

 

[Vick]

uh ok ?

It's a last gen game, you're just proving my point.

Again, we should start making some serious bets.

 

[RyanEvans21]

Both run at an unstable 30 FPS and RDR2 runs < 900p on Xbox One.

Also how do you know that footage was running on, or representative of, consoles?



Rockstar isn't miracle workers, it took them 2 generations beyond its original release to get GTA V to run at 60 fps on console hardware.

Not miracle? Imagine they manage to run GTA 5 on Jaguar CPU.

 

[twilo99]

Using cut down 2019 cpu in 800 Euro console is just incredible. Looks like they blowed all their budged on those cool racing stripes.

From a consumer standpoint, this is a huge L, but from a corporate point of view, this is a win for sure... the profit margins on that "premium" product must be amazing.

They know most people have no idea what Zen2 is or what it means for their games, and they will mask it as much as they can with frame generation, but it will eventually come back to bite.

 

[RyanEvans21]

uh ok ?

It's a last gen game, you're just proving my point.

Never play on ultra settings? its better than most games today!

 

[Buggy Loop]

Unless Rockstar drops the ball on physics galore, which I doubt, it will be % be CPU limited

This ain’t RDR 2 with rabbits, deers and horse testicles. Pedestrians, traffic simulations to make a city feel alive will eat up a CPU.

It’s the same fucking CPU for the pro. That’s DF’s argument.

 

[adamsapple]

Not miracle? Imagine they manage to run GTA 5 on Jaguar CPU.

Yeah, they did and that's impressive, but GTA V historically runs pretty shit on PS3/360.

They might be able to get a decent up-scaled 1440p/30 mode on PS5/Series but ta 1440p/60, come on now.

Never play on ultra settings? its better than most games today!

The PS4 Pro version isn't Ultra settings. It also has a pretty shitty checker-boarded upscaling method. Not the same thing in the slightest.

 

[DeepEnigma]

So now they are just making shit up based on feelings and emotions?

Sensational stuff.

All the usuals are in damage control, I see. Haven't we been here before prior to this gen, only for crow to served?

Remember when the PS5 wasnt going to have hardware RT? And Tflops were the end all be all metric that would show a drastic gap?

Good times.

 

[Magic Carpet]

Those 30 FPS will be dripping in raytraced Pisser pixels.

 

[ChiefDada]

 

[Fess]

Lmao what kind of reasoning is this? There were 60fps games on Commodore 64. And there were 10fps games. Everything is about developer choices, not about hardware limitations or technological miracles. It has always been that way.

 

[Three]

Bro, fucking Warhammer, a linear action game with no RT, runs at DRS 720p to 1080p.

What makes anyone think GTA VI will run at 1440p in Performance mode on current hardware.

What makes you so sure GTAVI will be the same as Warhammer? There are open world action games that run at 1440p on a base PS5 in performance mode.

 

[RyanEvans21]

Yeah, they did and that's impressive, but GTA V historically runs pretty shit on PS3/360.

They might be able to get a decent up-scaled 1440p/30 mode on PS5/Series but ta 1440p/60, come on now.



The PS4 Pro version isn't Ultra settings. It also has a pretty shitty checker-boarded upscaling method. Not the same thing in the slightest.

It's weak console hardware dont expect them 1080/60 or 720p/60 fps. Go for PC if you want definitive edition.

I'm talking about the PC Version... RDR 2 much better graphics and animation than most of the game today.

 

[kevboard]

Lmao what kind of reasoning is this? There were 60fps games on Commodore 64. And there were 10fps games. Everything is about developer choices, not about hardware limitations or technological miracles. It has always been that way.

we literally have a trailer of the game to judge it from.
and the trailer shows that they lean heavily into raytracing, both for reflections and for global illumination.

Raytracing is very CPU heavy. open world sanbox games are very CPU heavy. large NPC crowds (which we saw in the trailer) are very CPU heavy.

so expecting 30fps is a very reasonable assumption to make.

 

[adamsapple]

What makes you so sure GTAVI will be the same as Warhammer? There are open world action games that run at 1440p on a base PS5 in performance mode.

I can't think of a single open world game this generation that matches the complexity or density that the GTA VI trailer showed.

Starfield now targets 4K (1440p)/60 too but it doesn't have anywhere near that kind of density.

It's weak console hardware dont expect them 1080/60 or 720p/60 fps. Go for PC if you want definitive edition.

I agree with you and that's the point I was quoting to the poster. Talking strictly about console hardware, not PC.

 

[Fess]

we literally have a trailer of the game to judge it from.
and the trailer shows that they lean heavily into raytracing, both for reflections and for global illumination.

Raytracing is very CPU heavy. open world sanbox games are very CPU heavy. large NPC crowds (which we saw in the trailer) are very CPU heavy.

so expecting 30fps is a very reasonable assumption to make.

And they could have a mode where they choose to not heavily lean into raytracing, both for reflections and for global illumination. Or halve the crowd or car density. Or do whatever else that is needed to increase framerates. If they wanted. No technological miracle is ever needed, except have video hardware that could push out another image to a TV 60 times per second.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

But it will run 60 on series S, right?

120. prepare to be shocked

 

[kevboard]

And they could have a mode where they choose to not heavily lean into raytracing, both for reflections and for global illumination. Or halve the crowd or car density. Or do whatever else that is needed to increase framerates. If they wanted. No technological miracle is ever needed, except have video hardware that could push out another image to a TV 60 times per second.

they could, but replacing RT GI especially wouldn't be that easy. they would have had this planned from the start, and Rockstar doesn't strike me as a dev team that cares about 60fps... hell, they clearly don't care about playability in general when we look at how awful the input latency in RDR2 was.

so yes, they could... but it's rockstar, and I just doubt they will