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Guardians of the Galaxy 3 reviews
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kruis
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I usually agree with The Critical Drinker, but here he and his fellow Youtube critics were wrong. I can see why they thought the movie had certain flaws, but they also missed the point why those flaws made the movie a turkey that was better skipped than seen. And reading the replies to his video almost all of the people who have now seen GotG3 also disagreed.
ForAcademicPurposes
Gold Member
This movie made me tear up and laugh uncontrollably in the span of twenty minutes. What an achievement.
Beastclaw Raider
Banned
So I need to prepare myself to hold back some tears in front of the kids next weekend for this one?
scoobidoo112
Member
People like him are in the business of shitting on the "M-She-U" and "Woke Disney", honestly it's getting quite absurd.
There was a time where I thought he gave harsh-but-honest reviews, but lately he's been going out of his way to find things to complain about.
Werewolf Jones
Member
Remember when normies complained about Rocket Raccoon being in UMvC3 because he took the slot of a shit nostalgia 90s character like Gambit? How times have changed.
Also Critical Drinker is a grifter.
Also Critical Drinker is a grifter.
Ulysses 31
Member
Will be interesting how they would substantiate their opinions in a spoiler filled discussion. There's a complete EFAP breakdown of the movie with some of the same critics that I haven't seen yet but am curious about since most people seem to like the movie.
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Toons
Member
Apparently during the video one of the stooges asks "what was H Es motivation anyway?" And I have to laugh. Dude says his motivation verbatim like three times in the movie. Thesd folks are 100% looking for things to whine about.
Punished Miku
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Tune in next week when Kathleen Kennedy gets totally fired, for real this time.
Werewolf Jones
Member
Bruh I'm still crying. Movie isn't without flaws, like Adam Warlock having nothing to really do and existing for plot reasons but Rocket Raccoon is BY FAR the most tragic character in the MCU and as are his three little homies. Doesn't exactly break the Marvel formula but it certainly pushes it to the very limit in a lot of ways and I'm glad it was Guardian's swan song to do it.
TaylorSwiftFan
Member
Watch his standalone review - he praises the movie quite a bit.
TaylorSwiftFan
Member
People say this but they never try to put forward an argument against what he said.
As for “M-She-U”, come on, it’s not really inaccurate.
Sleepwalker
Member
Im not a fan of the latest marvel movies but really enjoyed this in 3d, a fitting end for the guardians.
scoobidoo112
Member
I have no issue with genuine criticism, just when it gets too absurd. It starts to come across as ranting for the sake of views.
Like in his Black Panther 2 review, where he went on a rant about the scene where Barney Ross is being tracked down running in the woods, and how the robot-fly didn't play into the further plot. That to me is just absurd criticism.
On the other hand, I have no issue with him pointing out that Ironheart felt like a cheap, diversity Iron Man replacement.
Does that make sense?
jufonuk
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Werewolf Jones
Member
The RLM video was good because Jay and Mike admit they're casuals but understand that GotG pushes the boundaries as much as it can to escape the Marvel formula and despite it having some issues overall it was a nice send off with closure and actual hard hitting moments.
Meanwhile The Critical Grifter speaks like he's got plenty of experience with Marvel inside and out and is too over confident then says yo why are they wearing the same uniforms. Almost like a comic book movie is replicating a comic you fucking moron. Do your research before you try and question things you know little about.
Meanwhile The Critical Grifter speaks like he's got plenty of experience with Marvel inside and out and is too over confident then says yo why are they wearing the same uniforms. Almost like a comic book movie is replicating a comic you fucking moron. Do your research before you try and question things you know little about.
Ulysses 31
Member
But is it fair to expect movie watchers to know the comics? If the comic goes into detail why they change uniforms but the movie(and all other MCU material) leave all that stuff out, I think it's a fair criticism.
Anyway, for those into multi hour breakdowns:
Barely begun watching but YT comments say there's a lot of disagreement in this one.
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Werewolf Jones
Member
Lay off the insults and focus on the argument. Stop trying to look for fights.
So you gotta be spoon fed information because you're too lazy to research the source material? Takes one Google search. Critical Drinker labels himself above "normies" but he's normie as fuck if that's the argument.
Fiction doesn't have to explain every minor detail.
Ulysses 31
Member
So you gotta resort to strawmans, eh. It's not a weird question to ask why they all changed uniforms all of a sudden. It's a mild criticism from my understanding and not something he kept harping on.So you gotta be spoon fed information because you're too lazy to research the source material? Takes one Google search. Critical Drinker labels himself above "normies" but he's normie as fuck if that's the argument.
Fiction doesn't have to explain every minor detail.
Werewolf Jones
Member
Strawman is the biggest buzzword to use on this site. Look dude, being a paladin for Critical Drinker isn't gonna get you on the podcast.
Also them wearing uniforms isn't a big deal and literally does not change a single fucking thing in the movie. You know what a valid criticism he made is though? Star-Lord not having rocket boots or the mask.
Redneckerz
Those long posts don't cover that red neck boy
Watched it yesterday, left satisfied. The Guardians have always been rather good adaptions of the Marvel Studio Movie Format, and this doesn't disappoint either. Yet here, too, you can get the samey feel over a lot of things, story wise.
The humour and the 80s/90s/00s soundtrack save a lot and contribute to the charm. The galaxies in Guardians are backed by heavy riffs and melodramatic piano's. And you know, that's not that bad of a universe to aspire to.
The humour and the 80s/90s/00s soundtrack save a lot and contribute to the charm. The galaxies in Guardians are backed by heavy riffs and melodramatic piano's. And you know, that's not that bad of a universe to aspire to.
Ulysses 31
Member
Coz you bring up that I wanted everything to be explained which was not the case, so it's a strawman.
I don't take Drinker's word as the gospel, if I watch something for myself it's not guaranteed I have the same opinions as him but more often than not I agree with him.
Who's saying that it's a big knock against the movie? Since it doesn't affect the plot(I assume since I haven't watched GOTG3) it falls within the lines of nitpicking/mild criticism.
See, now the change in attire could be seen as having consequences for the plot so at least a line or 2 why they changed is not out of the ordinary to ask for.
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Werewolf Jones
Member
All you ever do is post his videos though whenever it's relevant. Lmao.
The costumes are comic references, not everything needs to be mentioned in script. Whenever they change clothes in Star Wars no one questions that. I stick by what I said and Critical Drinker is trying hard to find fault with the movie with that one. (I mean if you wanna be cynical it was probably for toy purposes BUT)
Also regarding the helmet and boots...
Ulysses 31
Member
Because more often than not I agree with his takes.
So? If characters change their looks to such a degree, just saying it's because of the comics is not a good excuse IMO. The movie and comics are separate entities. It's probably an easter egg for the comic readers but for those who aren't(which are the far majority I bet) it might raise valid questions.
It that's clear enough in the movie(which I doubt since you initially agreed with Drinker on that point and people are asking James Gunn) then fair enough, otherwise it's death of the author.
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OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
What is he grifting exactly?
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
I've always found that quote to be bullshit tbh. There needs to be a line of reality to everything.So you gotta be spoon fed information because you're too lazy to research the source material? Takes one Google search. Critical Drinker labels himself above "normies" but he's normie as fuck if that's the argument.
Fiction doesn't have to explain every minor detail.
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Toons
Member
Many people have out forth arguments against the stuff he has said. He doesn't actually usually say much of substance.
Also yes, thats entirely inaccurate. We had 1.5 female led movie from marvel on the last 2 and a half years, 6 female led projects in the last 15 years. Out of what? 36 projects?
Toons
Member
No, there really doesn't. And even when there does, its arbitrary. Folks will watch a movie with a gd talking raccoon and a telepathic speaking Russian dog from the soviet union, and not bat an eye and then say "bruhhh why star lord no helmet???"
Thats what morrison is talking about here. The ridiculousness of asking for logic arbitrarily in settings where logic and realism has already been thrown out the window.
But there is only a certain amount of internal inconsistency or rules breaking you can do before suspension of disbelief becomes impossible. If, inexplicably and for no plot reason, one of the characters starts walking through walls, would it make the film harder to watch? It isn't a power they gained, a curse laid upon them, or some inherent ability, it's just there, cause "it's all make believe, bro!!". Now a kid would probably groove on that shit but as an adult there are some basic ground rules for even escapist fiction that, while not absolute, do put some onus on the creator to follow without due diligence in violating them. Superhero tales are already starting in the hole because, in general, their capabilities are not fixed and the application of abilities tends to be in a very narrow band of "crime fighting" while ignoring all the other possibilities, but even then it helps when reality defying moments are limited as much as possible.
Toons
Member
That depends on if the story addresses them or not. And star lord simply not having his helmet on isn't anywhere within the realm of walking through walls.
Gotg didn't explain what rocket was or how he came to exist. They just expected you to understand he was a talking procyon with a gun
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TaylorSwiftFan
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Why does anyone need to know the comics? The reality is that Star Lord could have made use of his mask and boots and yet, for some reason, does not use them in this movie.
TaylorSwiftFan
Member
People quote a line or two about his nitpicks but don’t really the bulk of his video. Like the poster I responded to before - he’s nitpicking his nitpicks.
Pretty sure they showed some of his cybernetics and even made a racoon joke in GOTG1, so barring any further explanation, that was probably enough backstory. Groot never gets explained well either but just the sprout in a cup was enough for EVERYONE to grok all they needed to know. Now if GOTG4 shows that Groot was actually a meat creature that was transformed into a wooded plant-like thing it would be a bit of a head scratcher why he could "regrow" from a sprout as if he always had a plant lifecycle.
Anyway, no wonder why Starlord doesn't use a helmet, the actor has a million dollar face. Haven't seen GOTG3 yet though so can't comment on rocket boots.
Toons
Member
The problem is his nitpicking are not only often in accurate or based on faulty info... which for a guy who markets himself as being unfiltered and speaking honestly ain't great... but jts also th at nitpicking is kinda all he really offers a lot of the time and he treats them as objective.
TaylorSwiftFan
Member
What exactly is inaccurate in his statement? That they had different costumes in the previous movies and that now they are wearing the same costume?
And no, nitpicking is not all that he offers - nitpicking is what people have thrown at him while disregarding all his other points. As I said, people just nitpick his nitpicks.
Also, people are forgetting that 1 in 3 of the top critics on RT do not recommend this movie. So, it’s not like he’s a rare case.
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
So... 33% of critics?
MaestroMike
Gold Member
Thoroughly enjoyed it sad it’s James Gunn last one, but at least we got a great trilogy this might be my second favorite one out of the trilogy the first one is still my favorite
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Toons
Member
That's not a flaw. Especially when you consider the second film takes place 4 months after the first, meaning these guys barely knew each other still, and weren't officially operating under any MO. This film takes place nearly 10 years after that, where they are a well known team of defenders and have a "brand" of sorts. It makes sense they'd wear a suit that would instantly identify them. Much like the ravagers all had a pretty similar uniform. It isn't like the avengers where they are all solo agents who occasionally team up, the guardians are a package deal.
But also... its literally from the comics that they all have a uniform. Thats not a complaint, and even if it was its not a great one, nd betrays his lack of knowledge on the material.
Thats not really a defense of him. He makes nitpicking part of his brand so why should his material be excluded from that? And besides the complaint about him not knowing about the source material and not using enough rational thinking to understand why they'd all share a uniform isn't even a nitpick. Its a pretty major complaint about his approach considering half of what he reviews is comic book stuff.
The movie sits at 81% recommendation, that is *way* higher than 2/3 which would be closer to 66%. And he has openly criticized mainstream RT critics so liumping him in with them isn't probably something he'd want anyway. He brands himself as being different from all of those.
Billbofet
Member
Saw it tonight. Loved it. Didn't get nearly as emotional as I was expecting, but definitely the best MCU movie in quite a while. Glad I saw it before taking my son. At 8 years old, there is some pretty harsh shit going on in this movie that I don't think young kids need to see.
Darkmakaimura
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Is it true they actually use the f-bomb once in the movie?
Billbofet
Member
I was finally able to see it and i loved it. I was a bit worried because modern Disney has been dire, but i still had faith because of Gunn.
It's already been mentioned, but Star Lords lack of helmet and rocket boots is basically my only complaint with the movie. It just makes the character cooler and more dynamic. Plus it seemed like a bit of a cheap way to get that moment towards the end that required said lack of boots and mask.
It's already been mentioned, but Star Lords lack of helmet and rocket boots is basically my only complaint with the movie. It just makes the character cooler and more dynamic. Plus it seemed like a bit of a cheap way to get that moment towards the end that required said lack of boots and mask.
DKehoe
Gold Member
I saw it the other day and enjoyed it. The last few Marvel things haven't really clicked for me so I wondered if this wouldn't either but really enjoyed it. It's good that they got to focus on the Guardians stuff and didn't have to include some multiverse bullshit that's going to tie into the larger MCU plot. Left things nicely wrapped up for that group.
I liked it quite a bit. There were the usual Gunnisms that went on a bit too long but the villain had a discrete, concrete plot, motivations that were somewhat understandable, and took action that seemed to fit in a semi-logical framework, so that already puts him into the top tier of Marvel villains. His "Dr. Moreau" style sadism made him even more punchable and damn was that a sweet scene. It kinda rehashed GOTG2 but with Rocket instead of Peter but that's ok. I'd be happy if the guardians were done at this point.
What happened with Karen Gillian though? Was she pregnant during the shoot? She seemed stocky and a bit bloated. Maybe only Zoe Saldana still hits the diet as hard as ever.
What happened with Karen Gillian though? Was she pregnant during the shoot? She seemed stocky and a bit bloated. Maybe only Zoe Saldana still hits the diet as hard as ever.
Good film. I definitely cried when they show what happened to rocket. Still has the problem of the MCU not being able to let serious shit linger, though. Nebula even calls it out directly. Something like "can we get back to saving our dying friend." They really need to cut that shit out.
Toons
Member
I mean the closest you're gonna get is wakanda forever which spent a large portion of its runtime mourning with far less jokes to break it up.
Problem with BP2 is that it was mourning a real world death that didn't have to impact the cinematic world at all and it just led to silly stuff like his hidden illegitimate (I think) kid. A comic book world having real stakes isn't too much to ask I don't think. I've little doubt we will see RDJ and Chris Evans again because Disney knows that will put asses in seats.
