Batiman
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Guardians of the Galaxy 3 reviews
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AmuroChan
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Too late for that. Nintendo has already said they're doing a cinematic universe with their live action films.
Unknown?
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Ah for Gen Z, all they need to do is make it a short. 3 minutes and you'll have them buying again and again!
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
Capeshit is going the way of westerns.
Remember how everything was westerns about 60 or 70 years ago? It was just as big if not bigger than capeshit is today and now nobody cares about westerns.
Remember how everything was westerns about 60 or 70 years ago? It was just as big if not bigger than capeshit is today and now nobody cares about westerns.
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wondermega
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Guardian movies and characters are fun as hell. If this is half as good as the 2nd film it will be worth seeing in the theater for me (mind you, I considered the second one enjoyable if forgettable). I am sure this one will be fine, and at this point it's the last film in this universe I will have any interest in seeing for quite some time.
Except Secret Wars. No idea what shape that will take, but if it draws on any considerable amount of the material from the orig comics that I adored as a little kid in the 1980s, I will be there day one in the theater. My hopes aren't high, but there's a long way to go between here and there.
Except Secret Wars. No idea what shape that will take, but if it draws on any considerable amount of the material from the orig comics that I adored as a little kid in the 1980s, I will be there day one in the theater. My hopes aren't high, but there's a long way to go between here and there.
Trilobit
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Endgame was the true ending to the Marvel cinematic saga. I think many people felt that and the creative bankruptcy since then has clearly shown that Marvel has no more good tales to tell.
If they still want to continue there needs to be a focus on small scope projects again. In the vein of Iron Man 1. One character. One enemy. Not boring end of the world stories. It needs good scripts and directors. Passion projects, not cookie cutters.
EDIT: How did I double post? Mama mia!
If they still want to continue there needs to be a focus on small scope projects again. In the vein of Iron Man 1. One character. One enemy. Not boring end of the world stories. It needs good scripts and directors. Passion projects, not cookie cutters.
EDIT: How did I double post? Mama mia!
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Probably.
I think the problem for Disney is talent and hierarchy. There's really so much talent that is able to push great stories, and even if there's an amazing writer in their ranks, it's their ranks their hierarchy that's the problem. That talent prob doesn't feel free to raise new ideas. The structure of American companies is to their creative detriment.
Disney+ would've been a great place for a show about a regular family, group of friends, that deals with the effects of the snap. The husband got remarried, the friends found out he was a serial killer, who knows. There's a lot of material there. It's in the MCU but it's not about superheroes. All their offerings rn are just the same, and there's a reason they are losing subs.
Toons
Member
There were 3 movies made for one of the most lame and useless characters even by comic books standards?
You could've said that about the guardians themselves before 2014 to be fair.
DeafTourette
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There's criticisms to be had for sure about this movie but overall everything has been positive ... Once word of mouth comes out more, I expect the movie to do much better than Quantumania.
RCU005
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I’ve said it many times. It’s not about “superhero fatigue”. It’s that Marvel movies used to be many genres that happened to have superheroes in them.
However since Phase 4, Marvel movies became their own genre with a “movie-formula” and they are all practically the same.
Think about MCU movies from Phase 1 through 3. Most of them then were different. They had different styles or different tones, even different genres, but all of Phase 4 (and now phase 5) have been mostly the same.
They also have been mostly comedy (and the stupid kind at that). Just compare Iron Man 1, Captain America: The Winter Soldier, Doctor Strange, etc to the likes of Thor: Love and Thunder, practically all TV shows (except Loki and Moon Knight); the former feel more mature and serious even if they did have some comedy in them, but the latter feel like movies made for the Disney Channel or Nickelodeon.
However since Phase 4, Marvel movies became their own genre with a “movie-formula” and they are all practically the same.
Think about MCU movies from Phase 1 through 3. Most of them then were different. They had different styles or different tones, even different genres, but all of Phase 4 (and now phase 5) have been mostly the same.
They also have been mostly comedy (and the stupid kind at that). Just compare Iron Man 1, Captain America: The Winter Soldier, Doctor Strange, etc to the likes of Thor: Love and Thunder, practically all TV shows (except Loki and Moon Knight); the former feel more mature and serious even if they did have some comedy in them, but the latter feel like movies made for the Disney Channel or Nickelodeon.
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Astray
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Cannot agree with this enough.
Shang-Chi was a movie I largely liked due to the HK cinema influences, and it had a very good villain, but then the movie devolves into a CGI snooze and I completely lose interest in the film. Spiderman was enjoyable, but they had to lean on nostalgia really, really hard in that one so it's gonna be hard to repeat, and that was my last MCU movie.
Agreed, whoever the fuck approved that 80 million dollar CGI laden third act of Shang-Chi should be drawn and quartered. They could have had a martial art mass battle EPIC to rival the very best ever put to film but what did we get? Video game dragons. Fricking "The Warrior" on TV had better fights, and several of them, than anything in Shang-Chi.
kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
There seems to be no pre-release hype whatsoever.
DeepEnigma
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Can't be worse than the recent cringefest that was Thor. Can it?
StreetsofBeige
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For those of you talking Shang Chi above, I dont know anything about the comics but I decided to watch it a couple months ago.
What a shit movie.
The first half of the movie was bad because that ugly female sidekick with the man voice made the movie into a comedyfest. The rest of the first half was fine. Then the back half of the movie the female kind of disappears as the bad guy dad and hero grandma take over. But then it becomes a giant CGI Lord of the Rings battlefest with dragons and gargoyles.
Is the comic series that crazy with tons of dragons and magic shit everywhere? I thought it was going to be a more low key hero movie with a handful of characters have magic powers. I didnt' think it would involves dragons and stuff.
What a shit movie.
The first half of the movie was bad because that ugly female sidekick with the man voice made the movie into a comedyfest. The rest of the first half was fine. Then the back half of the movie the female kind of disappears as the bad guy dad and hero grandma take over. But then it becomes a giant CGI Lord of the Rings battlefest with dragons and gargoyles.
Is the comic series that crazy with tons of dragons and magic shit everywhere? I thought it was going to be a more low key hero movie with a handful of characters have magic powers. I didnt' think it would involves dragons and stuff.
NickFire
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No interest, and it’s not superhero fatigue. I'm just bored of all things connected with Disney's approach to entertainment in general, and there is no over-arching storyline that I care enough about to see this movie before its part of a subscription (edit: I’ll definitely see it on subscription).
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Dr. Claus
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Remember when Disney had heart, soul, and cared about their art?
I miss that Disney. I was hoping that with the change of guard we may get rid of the retarded writing and bring back the joy to their films. I am hoping this is just one of hte last dying breaths from the old guard.
I miss that Disney. I was hoping that with the change of guard we may get rid of the retarded writing and bring back the joy to their films. I am hoping this is just one of hte last dying breaths from the old guard.
Maybe I'm missing something, but the old guard is what was great about Disney. IF anything the issue is the new guard doesn't understand what makes films work, they are formulaic.
Dr. Claus
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It is confusing. We had Group A leading Disney, which then changed to Group B, but Group B has now changed back to Group A's leader. Group B pushed hard on the Diversity/Inclusion Ideology trash and it lost them money hand over fist. I am hoping that Group A gets it back on track.
You mean Iger? Cause he's the one that changed Disney into what it is now. The former guy was like 2 years, and the path he was laid out to handle was already made.
The old guard like John Lasseter are gone, and you can see it with Pixar's and Disney animation awful direction. Elemental looks horrid, I have no idea what they were thinking.
Jinzo Prime
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Speaking of which, this video explains why the end fight CG is so bad:
i.e. :The director was incompetent.
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Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
The final battle in everything leading up to it in Shang-Chi was so bad. It looked dull and gray and like some kind of old PlayStation 2 game. Too bad it didn't have PlayStation 2 quality because the movie sucked.
Toons
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This is a wierd argument to make about this movie specifically seeing as it is totally creator driven by James gunn, a director so passionate about this franchise he came back after being unceremoniously fired by the company.
If you wish to make the case that no one cares about their product under Disney anymore this isnt the best movie to make that case for.
Toons
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This is completely false.
John Lasseter was only one part of the "old guard" and wss contributing to Pixar films up until toy story 4.
Pixar is a very "in house" company using most talent they've had for ages. For example, that Lightyear movie? Its director has been with the company since 1997 and worked on every Pixar from from Bugs Life to Toy Story 3 before directing Finding Dory.
Its chief creative officer is Pete Doctor who's been with the company virtually since day 1. His most recent directing Job was Soul which I thought was fantastic.
Even Turning Reds director has been with the company since at least 2015.
Take a look at the crew behind most of these movies and you'll see a lot of the same names pop up going back years. There has been absolutely no changing of the guard at Pixar, aside from Lasseters quiet removal.
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Yeah, but the leader WAS John Lasseter.
Lightyear sucked, and while it started dev while he was there in 2016 according to Wiki it came out 6 years later, 4 years after he was ousted.
Soul was ok imo, but that also started while he was there, came out about 2 years after he left.
Turning Red was fine.
Strange World and prob Elemental are flops.
A lot of Apple products are fine now, but there's def a lack of something since Steve Jobs is gone.
Dr. Claus
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LightYear was trash. Turning Red was bad. Strange World is the worst thing the studio has ever done. Elemental looks generic as all hell.
Yeah, that's my point. I do think Turning Red was ok it wasn't that bad. It's just that Disney is aimless rn, kinda like Microsoft, seems more like generic stuff and there's no creativity.
Toons
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Pixar didn't make strange world. That was Disney's own animation studio. That being said Lasseter has worked on several non Pixar Disney films like the frozen franchise.
Elemental didn't even come out yet. The animation looks gorgeous but the story will determine if it succeeds or not.
He was almost certainly involved heavily with Lightyears development, these Pixar movies actually take a while to get made often.
My point is, they definitely lost a significant asset in Lasseter but most of what is coming out he had a hand in, and he wss far from the old guard in and of himself. Most of them are still there, namely Pete Doctor, Andrew Stanton, Lee Unkrich etc. We are probably just now getting into the stuff he had nothing to do with in this current year and beyond.
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LordOfChaos
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I recall zero hype build or a trailer for this, and then it was out
But I dunno, maybe I've aged out of caring about these. The first Avengers movies were so exciting, the 10 year buildup to Thanos, and then Endcame was ok, and everything after was just /a/ movie.
But I dunno, maybe I've aged out of caring about these. The first Avengers movies were so exciting, the 10 year buildup to Thanos, and then Endcame was ok, and everything after was just /a/ movie.
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PrimetimeKnight
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Toons
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Nah. First movie coupled with Winter Soldier pretty much solidified that the MCU would dominate for the next several years.
Guardians was the ONE movie they had on their slate you legitimately couldn't argue had any popularity with the general public. The most obscure characters they could've gone for at that time. If they could make that a successful popular film they could do anything.
Well they did. All these dudes are household names now. And the first movie is still a fantastic watch of you ask me. The character dynamics sell it
RSLAEV
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A friend forced me to watch the first GotG and it was this weird feeling where I stared at a screen for 2 hours but my brain refused to accept that I was watching a "movie" Like I know it was supposed to be a movie, but it just looked like "shit happening for 2 hours" I was strangely detached from the whole experience. I felt the same way about the Dungeons and Dragons movie, which the same friend also made me watch.
Ulysses 31
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What does your friend have on you that he can make you do that stuff?
At least he didn't make you watch Love and Thunder...
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
Do you lot like ANYTHING that isn't a pretentious slog that only stuffy old academy heads like?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Some people value the quality of what they consume more than others.
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
And that's subjective...
I guess I shouldn't be bothered because all film is subjective but it always seems the same people in these movie threads just don't like ANYTHING that's also popular in the box office.
I'm the same dude who liked The Joy Luck Club, Contact, The Martian and most Marvel/DC movies... I can't wait to FINALLY watch Dungeons and Dragons!
As long as I can smile or feel something with a movie (as long as it's not revulsion), I'll most likely like the movie or show.
DeepEnigma
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I can watch a range of movies as well, but the Marvel/SW formula has run dry with me a while ago.
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DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
Indeed!
Just saying because some people think their opinion on something is objective and not subjective... Even if some share the same opinion
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
I think it's just hip to hate on Marvel at the moment. Side note I hate that fucker for his hair.