Guy accidentally shoots gun off in Target

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There's also no reason gun owners shouldn't be required to undergo safety and training classes before being allowed to own a firearm.

Mandatory training coupled with universal background checks are -- or at least should be -- the basics of proving (to a certain extent at least) which sensible, responsible gun owners are actually sensible and responsible.
 
I do appreciate the way you write, appaws.

I might not agree with your stance on gun ownership and you won't find many on GAF that do, but I totally respect your honesty and succinct way of wording your feelings on the matter.
 
an accident with a gun could kill someone in an instant but ok just an accident
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i just bought myself a h&k usp full size tactical 9mm with a suppressor and subsonic rounds

concealed carry, hoping hb163 and sb300 run through so i can open carry everywhere

Open carry with a silencer on?
Is that in case you drop it & discharge like this bro you can hope no one notices? ;)
 
If only the cashier had a gun, he/she would've been able to shoot the bullet to prevent it from ricocheting off the ground. And if a third person had a gun, he/she would've been able to shoot the other two bullets as they intersected to cancel their inertia so they just all drop straight down.

It's common sense, people!

Then we would have held a ceremony for the cashier the third armed hero for their valiant efforts.
 
Got damn the gun haters on this site. It was a damn accident, simple as that. Stop trying to turn everything into ant-gun propaganda.

Because this has become an intolerable situation that other developed countries do not deal with. You want to hear less bitching about it, then you best have an idea on how we can stop stories like this (and typically much worse) from happening constantly.
 
None of it has happened. And concealed carry has spread, even to blue states. Liberty and individual rights are winning. And that is why the puritanical anti-gun folks get more shrill and dishonest with each passing day.

And just how many human lives is your "individual right" worth?

We humans live in society, which imply certain limits we impose ourselves. We are not free, for example, to kill and steal, and scores of other behaviors that threaten society. "Freedom" is a good slogan, but any good thing can become bad when taken to extremes.

So, if you're already accepting certain limitations for the sake of living among others, isn't it downright hypocritical to suddenly take a stand for Freedom and stuff, against something that would reduce the number of people killed each year?

Driving is strictly regulated. Do you see drivers whining about speed limitations because it infringe on their freedom?
 
You never, ever reach for or try to grab a falling firearm. Fucking dumb.

And who's going to teach them that? Travis McClavis from Fuckbuttle Guns Superstore Texas sure as hell ain't mandating no safety classes before supplying the average joe with a gun.
 
This is what you felt you should contribute to this thread? This is why I can't take gun rights people seriously. It seems they'd rather just antagonize more than anything. They don't actually give a shit about anyone else's safety.

He's trolling, you wouldn't open carry an HK unless you WANTED to be robbed, with your rich man's OPERATOR gun on display like a deadly rolex
 
He's trolling, you wouldn't open carry an HK unless you WANTED to be robbed, with your rich man's OPERATOR gun on display like a deadly rolex

They should revoke his Tier 1 Operator card anyway for shopping at Target. They don't carry 5.11 cargo pants OR Oakley sunglasses. He should be bumped down to Tier 3 AT LEAST.
 
Got damn the gun haters on this site. It was a damn accident, simple as that. Stop trying to turn everything into ant-gun propaganda.

It wasn't an accident, it was negligence.

Willful disregard for the safety of everyone and anyone around him.

The shooter in the OP is no better than a drunk driver.
 
They should revoke his Tier 1 Operator card anyway for shopping at Target. They don't carry 5.11 cargo pants OR Oakley sunglasses. He should be bumped down to Tier 3 AT LEAST.

Suppressor on Holstered weapon reduces draw time and is a Tactically Inconceivable Tier-1 Slip-up (TITS).

Due to TITS Violation recommend demotion to standard Rangers or below immediately, 0/10 would not operate with
 
Got damn the gun haters on this site. It was a damn accident, simple as that. Stop trying to turn everything into ant-gun propaganda.
Dropping a gun: In this case, someone could have been killed.

Dropping virtually anything else: The thing breaks. Or it doesn't. Oh well.
 
As an Australian, I always enjoy reading arguments for gun rights, as they are always predicated on the assumption that other first world countries do not exist.
 
I do appreciate the way you write, appaws.

I might not agree with your stance on gun ownership and you won't find many on GAF that do, but I totally respect your honesty and succinct way of wording your feelings on the matter.

Thank you. I try even though I am outnumbered. I like the spirit of GAF though. I could go to a million places like The High Road where everyone would agree with me, but what fun is that.

I get a little bummed when it crosses into name calling though and I try never to do that myself.

And just how many human lives is your "individual right" worth?

We humans live in society, which imply certain limits we impose ourselves. We are not free, for example, to kill and steal, and scores of other behaviors that threaten society. "Freedom" is a good slogan, but any good thing can become bad when taken to extremes.

So, if you're already accepting certain limitations for the sake of living among others, isn't it downright hypocritical to suddenly take a stand for Freedom and stuff, against something that would reduce the number of people killed each year?

Driving is strictly regulated. Do you see drivers whining about speed limitations because it infringe on their freedom?

Yes, people whine about speed limits all the time. Maybe they are right and we should have no speed limits, maybe they are wrong. I don't know. What I do know is that it is not an issue of rights. Driving and transportation have never been thought of as fundamental rights in the way that speech, religion, bearing arms, etc. have.

Civilian ownership of firearms, however, is an issue of rights. An issue of creating a countervailing power to the state.

I do not think it is hypocritical to support some limits and not others. Of course I support limits, I am not an anarchist. I think it is best to enforce limits on individuals who have demonstrated that they cannot exercise their right in a proper manner, instead of on the population at large. Felons, those adjudged mentally incompetent, etc., after due process can have some rights stripped from them.

What is the hobbyist argument against keeping all of your guns at the range?

I don't know if there is a pure hobbyist argument. Of course there are non-hobbyist arguments...but since that is not what you asked for I guess there is no need to go over what we have discussed in lots of threads already.

If the shooting hobby was the only reason to have a gun, I guess you would be right.
 
Dropping a gun: In this case, someone could have been killed.

Dropping virtually anything else: The thing breaks. Or it doesn't. Oh well.
Gun are getting safer. There's handguns with extreme safety measures, that won't let the gun fire unless the trigger is actually pulled. Trigger safeties are on almost every popular handgun like Glock, XD, M&P, Ruger, and a lot of the other popular brands. And some of them like the XD have grip safeties which have to be depressed in order for the gun to fire. I walked around yesterday with a pistol in my pocket and didn't drop it, it was his accident.
 
Gun are getting safer. There's handguns with extreme safety measures, that won't let the gun fire unless the trigger is actually pulled. Trigger safeties are on almost every popular handgun like Glock, XD, M&P, Ruger, and a lot of the other popular brands. And some of them like the XD have grip safeties which have to be depressed in order for the gun to fire. I walked around yesterday with a pistol in my pocket and didn't drop it, it was his accident.

There was an infuriating story on 60 Minutes a couple months back on how difficult it is to implement smart guns. A store owner was initially going to start carrying them, but gun owners from around the country complained at him, some even sending death threats. All over some obscure provision in one state's statutes that likely would have been both unenforceable and probably struck down quickly if challenged.
 
Gun are getting safer. There's handguns with extreme safety measures, that won't let the gun fire unless the trigger is actually pulled. Trigger safeties are on almost every popular handgun like Glock, XD, M&P, Ruger, and a lot of the other popular brands. And some of them like the XD have grip safeties which have to be depressed in order for the gun to fire.
Great, how about we make those safety measures mandatory on all guns?

I walked around yesterday with a pistol in my pocket and didn't drop it, it was his accident.
I can't...

This is why America is a laughing stock. Full stupidity proudly embraced.
 
I feel like you guys already pretty much summarized the entire thread to be. We've got an appropriate target joke, an example of another incident with an idiot who shouldnt be allowed to own a gun, and snarky calls for more gun control.

Yup that just about covers it. Stop letting any random dumbass carry a gun.


But...but...Isis...
 
I've never understood the fear that must come along with owning a gun just in case the US government decide to go a bit mental and what... slaughter you all? I mean if you had any genuine inclination that might actually happen, why would you still be living in that country?
 
I've never understood the fear that must come along with owning a gun just in case the US government decide to go a bit mental and what... slaughter you all? I mean if you had any genuine inclination that might actually happen, why would you still be living in that country?

You live in Michigan and form a militia of other white people.
 
Got damn the gun haters on this site. It was a damn accident, simple as that. Stop trying to turn everything into ant-gun propaganda.

Gun are getting safer. There's handguns with extreme safety measures, that won't let the gun fire unless the trigger is actually pulled. Trigger safeties are on almost every popular handgun like Glock, XD, M&P, Ruger, and a lot of the other popular brands. And some of them like the XD have grip safeties which have to be depressed in order for the gun to fire. I walked around yesterday with a pistol in my pocket and didn't drop it, it was his accident.

I would laugh...
 
I've never understood the fear that must come along with owning a gun just in case the US government decide to go a bit mental and what... slaughter you all? I mean if you had any genuine inclination that might actually happen, why would you still be living in that country?

you think they'll move somewhere else where they don't even have hand guns to protect themselves from their governments tanks and bombs?
 
I've never understood the fear that must come along with owning a gun just in case the US government decide to go a bit mental and what... slaughter you all? I mean if you had any genuine inclination that might actually happen, why would you still be living in that country?
Because all the other first world countries have already taken away all the precious gun rights. It was a tragedy when all those governments slaughtered all their citizens.
 
I've never understood the fear that must come along with owning a gun just in case the US government decide to go a bit mental and what... slaughter you all? I mean if you had any genuine inclination that might actually happen, why would you still be living in that country?
They have to own guns so that they can defend their guns in case the government ever tries to take their guns. I know people say that it's more general than that, but gun rights are the only encroachment by government I've ever seen widespread revolutionary sentiment over by gun rights activists.
 
Gun are getting safer. There's handguns with extreme safety measures, that won't let the gun fire unless the trigger is actually pulled. Trigger safeties are on almost every popular handgun like Glock, XD, M&P, Ruger, and a lot of the other popular brands. And some of them like the XD have grip safeties which have to be depressed in order for the gun to fire. I walked around yesterday with a pistol in my pocket and didn't drop it, it was his accident.

This is garbage.
 
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