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Halo 2 Reviews (All Known Listed) [Warning: GS v-review has spoiler]
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SantaCruZer said:
No, it's not.
It isn't fact, it's opinion (as you said). Though, in this case, I'd say that it comes pretty close to being fact. Could you honestly consider Ocarina the absolute greatest gaming achievement of all time? Just consider what that entails...
At the time it came out,it was without a doubt the best game ever released,IMO.Of course now games have came out that might surpass it,but at the time,no way.
For me OoT just made everything else at the time look silly,Halo 2 might do the same,who knows,we'll find out in a few hours
For me OoT just made everything else at the time look silly,Halo 2 might do the same,who knows,we'll find out in a few hours
I think OoT deserves the top spot.
But I do agree that the gamerankings statistics thing is pretty messed up. It's like comparing baseball homerun statistics to those of 40+ years ago, even though they have made modern ballparks very homerun friendly compared to their predecessors.
A game like OoT with around 40 reviews is not really comparable to a game with around 115+ reviews. Plus these are all opinions. I don't think it's really fair to compare games of previous generations to those of this generation using gamerankings. But a comparision within this generation is "statistically fair" imo.
But I do agree that the gamerankings statistics thing is pretty messed up. It's like comparing baseball homerun statistics to those of 40+ years ago, even though they have made modern ballparks very homerun friendly compared to their predecessors.
A game like OoT with around 40 reviews is not really comparable to a game with around 115+ reviews. Plus these are all opinions. I don't think it's really fair to compare games of previous generations to those of this generation using gamerankings. But a comparision within this generation is "statistically fair" imo.
sonycowboy
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dark10x said:
There is no single greatest game of all time. Of any that aspire to that, then OOT probably comes the closest. That is, (and I know there weren't dozens of websites or magazines reviewing back then), everybody who played it loved it, essentially unconditionally.
Hell, I hated the N64 and I bought it just to play OOT.
I think the point of this whole #1 gamerankings of all time just shows how ridiculous it is to declare any game the best of all time, certainly not a game that hasn't even been officially released yet.
This month has been a tough time for the GAF. The written review has become the absolute most important aspect of videogaming life*, with their cumulative effect on gamerankings defining our existence.
Why can't people just play the damn games?
(* BTW, Everybody knows that NPD sales are truly #1
)sonycowboy
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eso76 said:
I saw they removed it. What a fucking joke! Like every other online game ever released has had a decent opportunity for the reviewers to play online. I know SOCOM, FFXI, Rainbox Six, etc never got those opportunities.
The whole thing is fucking ridiculous. Little whiny Xbox bitches flooded their email calling for their removal. It's all politics, man.
Ramirez said:At the time it came out,it was without a doubt the best game ever released,IMO.Of course now games have came out that might surpass it,but at the time,no way.
For me OoT just made everything else at the time look silly,Halo 2 might do the same,who knows,we'll find out in a few hours
It made everything else look silly eh? Now that's a pretty strong opinion...
I never said OoT wasn't a good game, but I don't believe it is the greatest achievement in the history of videogames by any means.
When it was released, I was as excited as everyone else...but I actually became bored with the game and stopped playing it a couple times (once in Jabu Jabu's belly, which was just an awful area and once in the Forest Temple). I dunno, the game wasn't nearly as compelling as I had expected. Prior to OoT, the last Zelda games I had played were Zelda 3 and Link's Awakening, both of which I found superior.
Hey, it's just opinion, though...
I do agree that there is no single "best" game, though.
I think games, music, and movies all have something in common: A category where the best reside. There's no real "one best," but there are a few that cannot be touched in what they achieved, or pushed aside for another game. You can list which games are better in/than the Army Men series, the Mortal Kombat series, the Banjo-Kazooie series- and most people will agree with you. But you know that once you have made something truly excellent, it's in the top-tier of games/movies/music that people usually regard as the best, and people will continuously argue for what is the best of those. That's where games like Ocarina of Time, Tetris, Super Mario Bros., Final Fantasy VII, Pokemon, A Link to the Past, NiGHTS, Soul Calibur, Grand Theft Auto III, and even Halo 2 fall into.
Um,I thought those reviews didn't get to play multiplayer at all...it's wrong to put the score up if you didn't even get to play what is perhaps the most important part of the game.
Well what game at the time even compared to it?Metal Gear Solid perhaps for its story telling,but certainly not its gameplay
Well what game at the time even compared to it?Metal Gear Solid perhaps for its story telling,but certainly not its gameplay
Ramirez said:Um,I thought those reviews didn't get to play multiplayer at all...it's wrong to put the score up if you didn't even get to play what is perhaps the most important part of the game.
Well what game at the time even compared to it?Metal Gear Solid perhaps for its story telling,but certainly not its gameplay
Plenty of games could be compared, but many were very different. Like I said, I didn't find the game all that compelling (despite the fact that I expected to). It's not one of my favorite Zelda games either...
Looking ONLY at Nintendo 64, I'll straight up tell you that I believe that Mario 64 is simply the superior game. It also had a greater impact on the gaming industry as a whole...
XboxGamers
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Andy787 said:
6.8
SantaC
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dark10x said:I guess you didn't read the 1000 replies on various other forums demanding Gamespot to change their original score of Shenmue. The reviewer actually caved in.
I did. But the shenmue score was like 5-6? This was different plus that you shouldn't let others affect yoru review.
buck naked
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The multiplayer experience is a very subjective thing. How skilled are the people you're playing with? What kind of connection? How long? What kind of modes? It's possible to have a BAD experience that is outside of the developers control - do the fanboys want a review of quater-filled European servers and high latency USA ones?
Building on the understanding that control mechanics are already strong, a 'review' of a multiplayer mode boils down to the weapon/item/vehicle balances, the variety in the gameplay modes, and the level design. And to be fair, most games that are considered multiplayer classics weren't deemed so until months after their release. Is Halo 2 such an ego trip for Xbox fans?
Building on the understanding that control mechanics are already strong, a 'review' of a multiplayer mode boils down to the weapon/item/vehicle balances, the variety in the gameplay modes, and the level design. And to be fair, most games that are considered multiplayer classics weren't deemed so until months after their release. Is Halo 2 such an ego trip for Xbox fans?
briefcasemanx said:
Hmm...I dunno...
They don't even have a review up for the game right now, so I have to wonder.
http://www.gamespot.com/saturn/action/nights/index.html?q=nights
It's the same crowd regardless, though.
Haha. Gamerankings average shot:
"The stodgy story is further crippled by poor level design in the campaign mode, which is rarely more than running from point A to point B while shooting everything that moves."
"Honestly, Halo 2 isn't much than a rental option."
http://www.mygamer.com/index.php?id...ws&PHPSESSID=02f1870c50581d8f34a238892592a06e
"The stodgy story is further crippled by poor level design in the campaign mode, which is rarely more than running from point A to point B while shooting everything that moves."
"Honestly, Halo 2 isn't much than a rental option."
http://www.mygamer.com/index.php?id...ws&PHPSESSID=02f1870c50581d8f34a238892592a06e
sonycowboy
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Rhindle said:
Well, if you don't have Live, and you're only 8 hours long...
That seems to get saddled on ALL relatively short games. I know I've seen it here as a freaking religion. It's not the first time we've seen this or the last.
It's not any more true with this as it has been with any other short game.
DIrtyWeasel
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IAWTP.PhatSaqs said:
Wow, MGS for GBC came out of nowhere... the game is over 4 years old and just recently got into the #3 spot with only 16 reviews.
Neato_Jinkins
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Kanbee-san
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sonycowboy said:
Yeah, lets encourage reviewers not to play the full game and give a review.... :lol
Give it a rest you whiny psyborg.