shinobi602
Member
I also miss the funny ass grunts.
Now they just sound like ex-chain smokers with voiceboxes. Ugh.
Now they just sound like ex-chain smokers with voiceboxes. Ugh.
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Halo 4 |OT| Spartans Never Die
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It is once again the beautiful period where I can fool people with a hologram.
WAT? Reach had an excellent campaign, mp was garbage compared to 2 and 3 but single player kicked ass. H2 was the worst Halo campaign for me.
I fell for that a few times last night and felt like a complete idiot. I played way more Reach than most people around here probably did, so that shouldn't be happening to me...
RepairmanJack
Member
I forgot all about this. I am not sure why at all, but holograms seem to actualle confuse me sometimes. In Reach it just never happened, but already it's happened a couple times in 4. Though the first couple times was due to me completely forgetting that there were holograms. :lol
Ein Soph Aur
Member
I've been fooled quite a few times by a hologram on the radar.
Having finished the campaign, I just have one niggling thing rattling around up there...
During in game cutscenes, the audio, apart from the voices sounds...muted, distant, and just overall quieter and lower quality than everything else.
Now, I wouldn't be surprised if this was the fault of my specific setup, but I played through ODST the other night on the same setup and it was crystal.
In game with H4, it sounds great, but cutscenes are a mess with audio. During some of the scenes with the antagonist, the lipsync seemed to be off as well.
Anyways, I was just wondering if anyone else experienced anything similar to the cutscene audio.
During in game cutscenes, the audio, apart from the voices sounds...muted, distant, and just overall quieter and lower quality than everything else.
Now, I wouldn't be surprised if this was the fault of my specific setup, but I played through ODST the other night on the same setup and it was crystal.
In game with H4, it sounds great, but cutscenes are a mess with audio. During some of the scenes with the antagonist, the lipsync seemed to be off as well.
Anyways, I was just wondering if anyone else experienced anything similar to the cutscene audio.
Aye, though it happened once to me and never again. Couldn't let things be like that any longer.
The audio sounds really compressed in the cutscenes, which was likely a conceit to pair the single player down to a single disc i'd guess.
Yes, many people have commented on this.
Xenon
Member
The game is truly a step up in graphics. My only complaint is it's almost too bright and shiny. Some grit and flat colors would go a long way in helping creating some contrast. Still, 343 did a great job in creating scenes that gave me a sense of awe.
The game-play did fee different at first but after a few minutes it was a non issue. I like the Prometheans. They are different from Master Chief's past enemies which makes the combat fresh. This is something I've wanted from a Halo game for a long time.
The sound is messed up. As others have said the mixing is terrible and very inconsistent. I don't have a problem with the individual sounds just how they come together.
My final gripe is on a section where MC fights on a hull of a ship. I don't think that's a spoiler since it's very early on. The sound is totally fucked. I get that it is space but then muffle all sound. Having muffled sounds from some things but not others comes off like it is unfinished. The thing that really bugs me, however, is the way the game handles weightlessness of space. I understand there may be slight gravity on the hull or the MC and his foes' armor has magnetic boots to keep them grounded on the ship. But that does not explain why when someone gets killed they float like a dead goldfish in a bowl the moment they die. They don't float off into space. They don't hang lifeless on the hull held by their boots. It is as if they were being held down by their life force or soul. So the second they die they are rendered weightless. Well weightless to the point of floating a couple feet off the ground. It just seemed kind of absurd.
Other than that I'm loving the game thus far.
The game-play did fee different at first but after a few minutes it was a non issue. I like the Prometheans. They are different from Master Chief's past enemies which makes the combat fresh. This is something I've wanted from a Halo game for a long time.
The sound is messed up. As others have said the mixing is terrible and very inconsistent. I don't have a problem with the individual sounds just how they come together.
My final gripe is on a section where MC fights on a hull of a ship. I don't think that's a spoiler since it's very early on. The sound is totally fucked. I get that it is space but then muffle all sound. Having muffled sounds from some things but not others comes off like it is unfinished. The thing that really bugs me, however, is the way the game handles weightlessness of space. I understand there may be slight gravity on the hull or the MC and his foes' armor has magnetic boots to keep them grounded on the ship. But that does not explain why when someone gets killed they float like a dead goldfish in a bowl the moment they die. They don't float off into space. They don't hang lifeless on the hull held by their boots. It is as if they were being held down by their life force or soul. So the second they die they are rendered weightless. Well weightless to the point of floating a couple feet off the ground. It just seemed kind of absurd.
Other than that I'm loving the game thus far.
I just moved into a new apartment and have been sans Internet for a while. I lurk GAF at work, so apologies for not hearing about this sooner.
Elginer
Member
Yeah, isn't it fantastic. I've done it already 5 times hahahha
Blue Ninja
Member
All in all I'm very happy with the game, but this is my main gripe. It's an incredible step back from what Jay and Marty did at Bungie, and it's a shame.
The way the soundtrack was implemented is also kinda weird. I listened to it again today, and so many pieces are absent or don't even appear in the sequences they're named for. It's like 343 sent Davidge an outline of the story and asked him to compose some music, and after he sent it in they never spoke again. That's usually how it goes for games, yes, but Marty's work on the Halo games proved it could be done differently. It's a shame Halo 4 sounds the way it does, really.
And yes, I think this is the third post I've made on the matter. But sound is so important to me that it's really bugging me. :lol
At least I'm not the only one who noticed it.
I feel like they inverted what Bungie has done with the campaign in the past.
5/8 missions done.
The story telling is absolutely phenomenal, but the combat and encounter design really isn't up to par at all. 2D background are a huge step back and are quite the detractor though.
Silly.Mikey
Banned
Like?
minasodaboy
Member
I was thinking about that a lot during the campaign. It is a great soundtrack on its own, but there were several instances where the music just didn't quite "synchronize" with what was happening on screen at the time.
The tone matched, but you definitely got the feel that it wasn't scored to coincide directly with what was happening, which is never something I noticed with Bungie's process.
Random note:
From what I've played from the campaign thus far, the fun never ends. Looking back, everything is a set piece but they managed to do what has been holding CoD campaigns back for years, and that is establish a pacing that doesn't overwhelm the player and make them feel like they're consciously aware that's the explicit goal without any overarching string or story between them. Maybe that's just because the CoD campaigns have established their formula more over the years though, and the story is a bit stronger knit to the gameplay in Halo.
From what I've played from the campaign thus far, the fun never ends. Looking back, everything is a set piece but they managed to do what has been holding CoD campaigns back for years, and that is establish a pacing that doesn't overwhelm the player and make them feel like they're consciously aware that's the explicit goal without any overarching string or story between them. Maybe that's just because the CoD campaigns have established their formula more over the years though, and the story is a bit stronger knit to the gameplay in Halo.
Glad i'm not the only one who noticed the lower quality audio in cutscenes. Thought i was going mad. It's almost like the voice recording sound perfectly clear, but the sound effects and music sounds lower quality. Also not crazy about no separate sliders for effects and music.
Those silly nitpicks aside, game was damn awesome. just finished the campaign today. I feel like I missed out, not knowing some of the extended lore. The experience was still great and the core of it is the MC and Cortana, which doesn't need any extended knowledge outside of the games. The game felt crazy short, but that's more a compliment as it's about the same length as previous games.
Those silly nitpicks aside, game was damn awesome. just finished the campaign today. I feel like I missed out, not knowing some of the extended lore. The experience was still great and the core of it is the MC and Cortana, which doesn't need any extended knowledge outside of the games. The game felt crazy short, but that's more a compliment as it's about the same length as previous games.
Quick Mustard
Member
Just had a look there and theres no option on the Waypoint site
I can only find Reach's.
Just trying to make you feel better that it's not your setup
I kinda wish it was to be honest, lol. Would give me an excuse to drop my crappy 2.0 setup and upgrade.
You can only get 2 kills with it from what I've seen.
Silly.Mikey
Banned
In the halo universe humanity was at its technological peak as a civilisation at around the same time as the forerunners. However after besting them in the human-forerunner war, the forerunners "devolved" humanity into primitives, who then evolved into "us"
Ragnarok is the worst BTB map in the game (just like valhalla was in halo 3). Longbow and Exile are infinitely more interesting to play.
Sunrise. Sunset.
From what I could tell (mind, I was in splitscreen) that the music is no longer dynamic and layers/delayers itself depending on what's going on with the action. It just plays.
shinobi602
Member
Only beat the first level so far, on Normal.
Enemies were a joke...should I just switch to Heroic?
Enemies were a joke...should I just switch to Heroic?
I tried 4 but was too inaccurate. I'm back at three for the time being but plan on bumping it back up after I get more familiar with the game and maps.
I've been using Recon since Reach.
Is there anywhere online I can look at the overhead maps for multiplayer?
^ listen to this man
Heroic became really punishing for me from mission 4 onwards. I had to play it like I usually play legendary in a halo game i.e popping guys off from afar and conserving ammo, whereas usually heroic allows you to be slightly reckless in your playstyle, within reason.
And complex isn't fun at all to play on the multiplayer front. I love Solace, Haven and Abandon though - all three are better than every map in Reach.
It doesn't stay that way. In my opinion, it's hardest Halo on normal difficulty. But my memory may just hazy.
I thought so too. Probably the hardest "Normal" campaign since Halo 1 imo.
shinobi602
Member
Hmm, that's what I've been hearing. Guess I'll stick with normal for my first playthrough and do heroic on my 2nd.
Psychoward
Banned
When 2 flags are out, you shouldn't be able to cap....
squidhands
Member
Nah, it will devolve into a loop if you spend too much time in a combat scenario, just like the Bungie games.
If you've spent any time playing Halo campaigns multiple times, Heroic is still the best place to start.
Terbinator
Member
glad i'm not the only one who's been surprised by the difficulty. I've been playing through on Heroic (naturally) but at some points i've had to really plan out my fights and attack. It's not necessarily a bad thing but it's took me about 6 levels in to realise i can't go about my business as usual.
Played about 7 hours of this yesterday on Legendary, solo and got up to
just after the part where you have to
(died a few dozen times then, as usual, walked away and came back and did it on my second try) and I have to say, I'm finding it very difficult compared to the other campaigns. You guys beating it in 7 or 8 hours are just a tad bit better at Halo than me. Just a tad.
The Prometheans, especially, are not very much fun to fight...yet. There just isn't a combat solution, that I've found, as rhythmic as the over-charged plasma pistol to headshot combo that makes fighting the Covenant so satisfying. I've been reading a lot about how, especially with the Knights, it's a matter of getting right up on them, but man, that is quite the task when you're taking on 3 at a time with a Watcher there. I've mostly just been finding myself out of ammo, with too many enemies still alive to show for my efforts. There have been a few instances where I was able to distract them with a drone and then flank them for an assassination, which was fun, but that only seems to work 10% of the time. I just keep hoping that there is some sort of strategy besides hosing them with bullets until they disappear, because that just isn't doing it for me. Still, ever onward.
Infinity
defend the door while Cortana opens it
The Prometheans, especially, are not very much fun to fight...yet. There just isn't a combat solution, that I've found, as rhythmic as the over-charged plasma pistol to headshot combo that makes fighting the Covenant so satisfying. I've been reading a lot about how, especially with the Knights, it's a matter of getting right up on them, but man, that is quite the task when you're taking on 3 at a time with a Watcher there. I've mostly just been finding myself out of ammo, with too many enemies still alive to show for my efforts. There have been a few instances where I was able to distract them with a drone and then flank them for an assassination, which was fun, but that only seems to work 10% of the time. I just keep hoping that there is some sort of strategy besides hosing them with bullets until they disappear, because that just isn't doing it for me. Still, ever onward.