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Halo 4 |OT| Spartans Never Die
- Thread starter GhaleonEB
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It doesn't have to be spelled out how wrong you are.
I just accept it and move on that they are both overblown and it's not that bad at all.
Only got through the first chapter last night but man oh man the quality just shines through! It looks amazing and feels wonderful. The sound is excellent and the gun vibration has outstanding. Each gun really feels different when fired! I love the AR right off the bat and have no problem hip-firing such a steady workhorse of a weapon. Needler is even more boss!
Plus, I gotta say, it's a real pleasure to see the Master Chief wake up happy and all chatty. It's nice that Cortana's emotional tank is filled and she's not freaking out or glichy. I'm glad they ditched the darkness that pervaded the series. Right from the get-go this just feels like a fun romp with friends!
Plus, I gotta say, it's a real pleasure to see the Master Chief wake up happy and all chatty. It's nice that Cortana's emotional tank is filled and she's not freaking out or glichy. I'm glad they ditched the darkness that pervaded the series. Right from the get-go this just feels like a fun romp with friends!
LAUGHTREY
Modesty becomes a woman
DMR should not be 4 hit kill, no way, it's way too powerful compared to most other weapons and you can quite easily out snipe a sniper with it.
It's a shame because I can't see 343 changing it now that it's in the game and being sold, it's like a reverse of the plasma repeater in reach where bungie left it gimped beyond belief like it never existed.
Please adjust the DMR in some way
It's definitely 5 shots.
Diablohead
Member
our first halo night was awesome & we have a lot of fun *the picture before my friends came to my house*
You sit quite far away from a tv of that size
Naked Lunch
Member
It brings a boosting gameplay element from mech games like Armore Core to Halo. I think its pretty neat. Would be nice if it had a bit more range and speed though. Also maybe a quicker recharge time.
You can boost in any direction. Use it to boost to cover - or during firefights, boost to the side at the last second to throw off your opponent's aim and give you the upper hand. You can also boost in the air. Also since you cannot sprint backwards on a dime - you can use it to boost backwards. As an example: this is useful to secure the center Laser on Ragnarok - grab it and boost backwards back down the hill.
...yeah, ok. It doesnt do the two things I listed at all. Carry on.
mickcenary
Member
Is the camo only 100% whilst still, or does crouch-walking keep it full, too? TANX.
My Halo4 came with a 2 week trial for Gold, I am assuming everyone's does. I won't be home until at least midnight tonight or I would just PM you the code
Krappadizzle
Member
DMR should not be 4 hit kill, no way, it's way too powerful compared to most other weapons and you can quite easily out snipe a sniper with it.
It's a shame because I can't see 343 changing it now that it's in the game and being sold, it's like a reverse of the plasma repeater in reach where bungie left it gimped beyond belief like it never existed.
Please adjust the DMR in some way
DMR is fine. You'll adjust to how it works, and either out gun it or work around it. BR seems to be the most popular rifle now and I've been outgunned by it. DMR is a good long range weapon. Work that disadvantage or advantage to your liking. You have to make the levels work for you and your weapons. Not the other way around. Adjust your strategy. I do.
You sit quite far away from a tv of that size
that's not me, he is a friend & he sat there for the picture sake lol
we sit near the tv
electricpirate
Member
LTTP here, but...
dis game is gud.
Movement feels so crisp and fluid compared to Reach (or even H3), weapons have a great feel and they nailed the vehicular combat. I'm probably the only one on earth who misses bloom, but I kind of do. Also, I'm loving the seperate Objective playlists. CTF is so much fun, especially you don't have things like medi bubble shields shitting it up. Anywho, meant to play for an hour last night, then it was 3AM. Nice work 343.
PS. Please stop starting a game when it's 5 vs. 2 thank you.
dis game is gud.
Movement feels so crisp and fluid compared to Reach (or even H3), weapons have a great feel and they nailed the vehicular combat. I'm probably the only one on earth who misses bloom, but I kind of do. Also, I'm loving the seperate Objective playlists. CTF is so much fun, especially you don't have things like medi bubble shields shitting it up. Anywho, meant to play for an hour last night, then it was 3AM. Nice work 343.
PS. Please stop starting a game when it's 5 vs. 2 thank you.
Diablohead
Member
I know where you are coming from but that gun is flat out OP, I play big team mostly and nearly everyone I pair with uses it to kill, maybe i'm just unlucky and get paired with teh proz
Up close without zoom it seems to be better then a BR also from using it myself, I just don't like it and I think it kills slightly too quick given it's usefulness at all ranges.
Continuity
Member
I am so ass at this game right now. Back in Reach I exclusively play SWAT and I almost always go positive/top of scoreboard, but playing Slayer is just a nightmare, every time I get the upper hand in an one-on-one situation, 2 more guys will pop up from no where and just eviscerate me. On one hand, this is a good thing, because it encourages teammates to stick together and support each other like an actual team, but on the other hand, for people without a mic like me it becomes very difficult to even go positive without playing very conservatively.
I'm sure I'll get better if I stick to it, but yeah, it's pretty hard to adjust right now.
I'm sure I'll get better if I stick to it, but yeah, it's pretty hard to adjust right now.
Future PhaZe
Member
only thing I'm annoyed with in MP is consistently going into Regicide matches that are already in play and with a guy who has a signifcant lead..
stop that shit
And where is my traditional FFA playlist? WTF
stop that shit
And where is my traditional FFA playlist? WTF
Just got to the end of Mission 4. Question:
Can someone explain who/what the Didact is and what happens after you "release" him? I was missing pretty much all of what he was saying because of the hissing and I tried to turn the CC's on and restart from my last save but it actually jumped me forward to the next cut scene. The hell did I miss?
I know I'm just echoing the sentiments of many others in this thread but I really think 343 did a bang up job. I'm very happy with my purchase and the game has put a grin on my face numerous times. I bought the LE and I'm glad I did. I can't wait to play more of it. The sound and graphics are great and the motion of the gameplay just feels so tight. Its rare these days that I'm this excited to play my Xbox 360. This franchise is in great hands.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
The problem with the DMR is that it's almost too good.
our first halo night was awesome & we have a lot of fun *the picture before my friends came to my house*
That TV stand is perfect size for a new 50" TV!
Diablohead
Member
null half the weapons 343 put into the game, excellent strat.
is it too early to say "thanks" for making the armor abilities balanced this time? They all feel good, but not too good...except thrusters are a little weak. I don't think PV is overpowered at all. Some may complain that it's a hack, but i don't see it any more a hack than going invis or sending a hologram out. The hologram is damn tricky in this game too; i and others keep falling for it.
Regen is nice, but doesn't do much if you're still getting shot and can even be used by enemies. The Light Shield is badass, but goes down in a few shots, doesn't protect from all sides, and doesn't recharge your shields while up....overall much better than armor lock.
Regen is nice, but doesn't do much if you're still getting shot and can even be used by enemies. The Light Shield is badass, but goes down in a few shots, doesn't protect from all sides, and doesn't recharge your shields while up....overall much better than armor lock.
It wouldn't be so bad if full auto weapons like the AR had bigger mags/were slightly more effective at close range. DMR just trumps everything, it might as well be the CE pistol. Every game I play almost everyone is using a DMR.
shinobi602
Member
Did Majin Buu pop into anybody else's head when
you first see the Didact's face?
EdibleExplosives
Member
Ugh, I haven't played much multi yet but this is what I was worried about. I even hate using the DMR, it's just not fun at all.
saltinekracka
Member
I feel the need to hoard my spartan points. Is there any reason to do this?
Ein Soph Aur
Member
Kind of thought the Brutes at first to be honest.
Cornballer
Member
Is anyone else having problems getting Halo Waypoint running on their console? Every time I try to boot it up from inside Halo 4 it goes to a black screen, my disc drive starts spinning, and my 360 crashes. Not sure if there's a fix for this.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
Nope. Same for me. Only way I can get to Waypoint is through Recent or from the Dashboard. The link in Halo 4 never works.
If it's too good then we've come full circle and there should be nothing to bitch about.
The last time a weapon was too good everyone missed it when it was absent from every Halo after C.E.
AllIsOneIsNone
Banned
I figured I'd post this here too:
So I've made a list of my ideal gameplay balance changes. It's not that I won't love the game unless they do these, this is just how I personally think the game could be greatly improved. Sorry, this wasn't written in a very flavorful manner.
Weapon balance:
-DMR can stay the same; it's the other primary weapons that need a little something extra injected into them.
-BR should either slightly increase fire rate or decrease it and make it a 4 shot kill. I say increase it a little because LR is 4 shot already, plus a closer range 4 shot primary may be a little unfair because it would be easy to land all 4 shots in closer quarter combat.
-LR is nearly perfect, but I say up the fire rate a hair to make it on par with the DMR.
-Carbine is better than 3's carbine, but I still think it should take one less shot. Because it takes more shots than the other longer range primaries, that means it requires more precision. As it is right now, I would functionally choose BR over carbine everytime.
-Assault rifle is powerful, but I think it's fine. 50 feet or more and the longer range weapons win everytime.
I haven't really used any other primaries very much so I can't say anything.
-Magnum should be 5sk.
-boltshot is perfect.
-plasma pistol is fine.
Power weapons:
-SAW is really fun but definitely decrease the amount of ammo you get, and possibly the magazine size.
-Needler is also fun, but a little too powerful. Make it slightly less magnetic. In previous Halos if an opponent was strafing correctly away they could avoid the needles, now it doesn't matter at all, its point till red, then kill (very quick kill too). You should have to juke your way to a kill like in previous iterations, thats what made it require some skill.
-Incineration cannon and rocket launcher are too strong. The stuff that bounces after the initial explosion shouldn't do so much damage. I haven't missed with either of these weapons yet. They can be powerful, but the radius and therefore lack of required accuracy is silly. Go back to the power of the Halo 3 launcher (and possibly keep the increased velocity to account for sprint).
-Shotgun is near perfect.
-Scattershot is possibly slightly overpowered but I really like it the way it is.
-Sniper is good
-Beam is too good, but I can deal with it.
-I actually like the Binary rifle, it's too powerful but the magazine size and the rarity factor make it okay to me.
-The Hammer is okay, but what happened to the opponent's body flying 100 feet every time? Most the time they just smack into the ground now, no fun!
-Concussion rifle is okay but was somehow cooler in Reach.
-The sword is pretty much right on.
-Sticky detonator is pretty good...make the range with grenades similar!
-Railgun is awesome the way it is.
-Laser is not too much of a problem.
-I think all grenade types need increased damage radius. It's crazy how you can get 3 shots on a guy, throw a grenade 5 feet away from him and have him survive. Promethian grenades would benefit from a bigger radius because they would then be able to actually block hallways/paths.
AA balance:
-Jetpack isn't actually that bad. It still ignores the map flow, but it also makes the player more vulnerable. I still think its kinda silly, but I can deal with it unlike in Reach.
-Hardlight shield is fine.
-Thruster is fine, even though other people seem to think it's weak. It's my go to AA and I'm constantly evading danger. Only thing I wish was that it was in first person.
-Hologram is nice.
-Regen is nice, not overpowered, not underpowered; just enough to get your shield back without being invincible.
-Active camo is another one I think is pointless, I see kill cams of people who use it and they're just standing there, waiting. It won't get you that many kills.
-Auto Sentry seems fine.
-PV is cheap, but close watch of the radar keeps it in check (in infinity at least).
I don't have many complaints about tactical packages. I would always either use mobility, shielding or grenadier, but I think they all have their place.
Same thing with support upgrades pretty much; I only use dexterity and have little reason to use anything else. However, I say get rid of the explosives one though, because grenades should be more useful for everyone. Something normally so paramount to gameplay in previous Halos should not feel like its nerfed for everyone except for the person that chooses it as an upgrade.
The vehicles are okay, but I think they are too prominent right now. Make them all more vulnerable to non-power weapons. Oh, but get rid of the scorpion, it's just stupid and takes up room. I also hope maps like exile and ragnorok will be in regular infinity playlists without so many damn vehicles.
Sorry if that was a boring read, I was just listing what came to mind. Let me know what you think.
edit: I don't like the changes to the radar. It looks like the range has been increased, and I don't care for the red arrows pointing where someone is outside of the radar.
So I've made a list of my ideal gameplay balance changes. It's not that I won't love the game unless they do these, this is just how I personally think the game could be greatly improved. Sorry, this wasn't written in a very flavorful manner.
Weapon balance:
-DMR can stay the same; it's the other primary weapons that need a little something extra injected into them.
-BR should either slightly increase fire rate or decrease it and make it a 4 shot kill. I say increase it a little because LR is 4 shot already, plus a closer range 4 shot primary may be a little unfair because it would be easy to land all 4 shots in closer quarter combat.
-LR is nearly perfect, but I say up the fire rate a hair to make it on par with the DMR.
-Carbine is better than 3's carbine, but I still think it should take one less shot. Because it takes more shots than the other longer range primaries, that means it requires more precision. As it is right now, I would functionally choose BR over carbine everytime.
-Assault rifle is powerful, but I think it's fine. 50 feet or more and the longer range weapons win everytime.
I haven't really used any other primaries very much so I can't say anything.
-Magnum should be 5sk.
-boltshot is perfect.
-plasma pistol is fine.
Power weapons:
-SAW is really fun but definitely decrease the amount of ammo you get, and possibly the magazine size.
-Needler is also fun, but a little too powerful. Make it slightly less magnetic. In previous Halos if an opponent was strafing correctly away they could avoid the needles, now it doesn't matter at all, its point till red, then kill (very quick kill too). You should have to juke your way to a kill like in previous iterations, thats what made it require some skill.
-Incineration cannon and rocket launcher are too strong. The stuff that bounces after the initial explosion shouldn't do so much damage. I haven't missed with either of these weapons yet. They can be powerful, but the radius and therefore lack of required accuracy is silly. Go back to the power of the Halo 3 launcher (and possibly keep the increased velocity to account for sprint).
-Shotgun is near perfect.
-Scattershot is possibly slightly overpowered but I really like it the way it is.
-Sniper is good
-Beam is too good, but I can deal with it.
-I actually like the Binary rifle, it's too powerful but the magazine size and the rarity factor make it okay to me.
-The Hammer is okay, but what happened to the opponent's body flying 100 feet every time? Most the time they just smack into the ground now, no fun!
-Concussion rifle is okay but was somehow cooler in Reach.
-The sword is pretty much right on.
-Sticky detonator is pretty good...make the range with grenades similar!
-Railgun is awesome the way it is.
-Laser is not too much of a problem.
-I think all grenade types need increased damage radius. It's crazy how you can get 3 shots on a guy, throw a grenade 5 feet away from him and have him survive. Promethian grenades would benefit from a bigger radius because they would then be able to actually block hallways/paths.
AA balance:
-Jetpack isn't actually that bad. It still ignores the map flow, but it also makes the player more vulnerable. I still think its kinda silly, but I can deal with it unlike in Reach.
-Hardlight shield is fine.
-Thruster is fine, even though other people seem to think it's weak. It's my go to AA and I'm constantly evading danger. Only thing I wish was that it was in first person.
-Hologram is nice.
-Regen is nice, not overpowered, not underpowered; just enough to get your shield back without being invincible.
-Active camo is another one I think is pointless, I see kill cams of people who use it and they're just standing there, waiting. It won't get you that many kills.
-Auto Sentry seems fine.
-PV is cheap, but close watch of the radar keeps it in check (in infinity at least).
I don't have many complaints about tactical packages. I would always either use mobility, shielding or grenadier, but I think they all have their place.
Same thing with support upgrades pretty much; I only use dexterity and have little reason to use anything else. However, I say get rid of the explosives one though, because grenades should be more useful for everyone. Something normally so paramount to gameplay in previous Halos should not feel like its nerfed for everyone except for the person that chooses it as an upgrade.
The vehicles are okay, but I think they are too prominent right now. Make them all more vulnerable to non-power weapons. Oh, but get rid of the scorpion, it's just stupid and takes up room. I also hope maps like exile and ragnorok will be in regular infinity playlists without so many damn vehicles.
Sorry if that was a boring read, I was just listing what came to mind. Let me know what you think.
edit: I don't like the changes to the radar. It looks like the range has been increased, and I don't care for the red arrows pointing where someone is outside of the radar.
How did they manage to ruin CTF? One of my favourite modes from past Halo games and the rule changes have really messed it up. They ruined any tactical aspect of attacking and defending by letting you score when the flag isn't at your base. If you used to go on the offensive it was a risk as it left your base open and you wouldn't be able to score even if you did bring back the flag. Now it just seems like a mad dash to see how many times you can capture the flag.
Auto picking up the flag is really frustrating as well, I was fighting off two guys and I pick up a rocket launcher and was about to kill them both but because I got too close to the flag I was auto switched to a handgun.
The map design isn't much better either, I just played Complex three times in a row and got stuck on blue team each time. We all spawn out in this wide open area and get picked off, whereas the red team spawn in a much more narrow and easily defendable position, it doesn't seem balanced at all.
Auto picking up the flag is really frustrating as well, I was fighting off two guys and I pick up a rocket launcher and was about to kill them both but because I got too close to the flag I was auto switched to a handgun.
The map design isn't much better either, I just played Complex three times in a row and got stuck on blue team each time. We all spawn out in this wide open area and get picked off, whereas the red team spawn in a much more narrow and easily defendable position, it doesn't seem balanced at all.
Buddermilk
Neo Member
Uninstall and reinstall Waypoint, they mentioned that in the Weekly Bulletin this week.
terrdactycalsrock
Member
I dont know what its like in MP, but in the single player game its 100% whole crouch walking and standing still
victreeb3l
Member
not sure about cards but when i logged onto live yesterday, they had a 12 year membership deal for 39.99, some halo special. not sure how you feel about giving microsoft your credit card info though.
They didn't ruin CTF. You're thinking of CTF Pro which I'm sure they'll include shortly.
Buddermilk
Neo Member
PM'd
Cornballer
Member
Thanks. I'll do that tonight.
Clay Davis
Member
sorry if this has been posted, but I received this via email earlier.
http://rewards.xbox.com/halo-4/
not bad of microsoft, although the points gained back are on the low side for spending 3000 points on the game.
http://rewards.xbox.com/halo-4/
not bad of microsoft, although the points gained back are on the low side for spending 3000 points on the game.
Well the only CTF in the game right now is this CTF so yes they did ruin it.
Ein Soph Aur
Member
The Gauss Hog should be removed from Exile.
StriKeVillain
Banned
Had a team last night who set up camp with the Gauss Hog and the tank near one of the turret placements. Needless to say, we got our shit pushed in. Hard.
Diablohead
Member
I just had a weapon crate drop which was a rocket launcher, but when picking it up the game gave me the saw.