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Halo 4 |OT| Spartans Never Die
- Thread starter GhaleonEB
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For me, I just wanted some change. I was sick of the Halo formula, I've been in it since the first and, after Reach, needed something different while keeping the core game play still intact. The lack of area based weapon control is surprising and disappointing to me, but what they have now as a base is just so refreshing after all these years. For the record, I agree it needs work. A good amount of thinking over the ordinance system and bringing back weapon placements is a must, but nothing should be taken out. I also agree a playlist for a more bare bones Halo of old should be added because that variation can be fun for me and it's clear a lot of people want it. It's just a shame that some in that camp feel the need to poo poo over everyone's party.
Dominion is so much fun.
FYI, random elements in competitive games undermine skill, period. Global ordinances are bullshit. Even personal ordinances are lame at times. Doing well? Oh, let's give your more tools to wreck even more havoc. Camping still exists, thanks to active camo. Map control is basically gone. You can control certain parts for only so long, thanks to ordinances.
It's a fun game, but man did they really mess with the formula
FYI, random elements in competitive games undermine skill, period. Global ordinances are bullshit. Even personal ordinances are lame at times. Doing well? Oh, let's give your more tools to wreck even more havoc. Camping still exists, thanks to active camo. Map control is basically gone. You can control certain parts for only so long, thanks to ordinances.
It's a fun game, but man did they really mess with the formula
@HaloWaypoint (Best source for everything)
no way dude, random shit makes a game fun. and balanced. halo sucked ass now it's fucking awesome because noobs can get kills easier.
Tokubetsu
Member
I was in love with MP from day one but a lot of the badmouth had me worried about SP...I shouldn't have let it get to me. Enjoyed the hell out of that too. My only real complaint is it feels more of a bridge the gap instead of the first in a new trilogy. The ending (pace of the story too really) feels like something that should have been in 3. I like the new characters (Lasky is cool, Palmer is cool but I wish she got more screentime), I like Cortana's new design, I fucking LOVE the mech but I'm biased (I have a thing fro giant robots...) and I love everything this art team is doing.
not just in big team, believe me. it's like halo 4: heavies
Rickenslacker
Banned
Not really with the perks currently in the game. They are more like...conveniences that are nice to have but hardly impact game play to a level where it's worth writing more than 2 sentences about.
In other words, they were right in saying these aren't CoD perks because they are kind of disappointing and don't carry much weight in games.
higherARC05
Banned
Is there any word on having our photos carry over onto Waypoint so we can view them on the pc?
Apparently "soon." Nothing more specific than that.
Play Slayer Pro.
I think the same thing, applied to chess, would really broaden the game's demographic and make the game fun for someone like me, who realizes that a system in which certainty is, to an extent, eliminated, makes for a better designed game.
Please don't compare Halo or any video game to chess....unless it is a chess video game.
I like this.
Sounds like that's what you do to get ahead in the real world. Cool extrapolating your own narrow-minded whatever to everyone who has ever existed though. I'm not being sarcastic. I regularly drive my car past people playing street hoops and yell "it doesn't matter who wins you small-dicked dumbasses!" and then they see how wrong they were to compete at a mere game and pack up their things and go home
JustProgress
Member
I can get behind this. Maybe even Classic or something. SWAT will also alleviate my pain.
Chess is a great example to use for that kind of shit because people that normally act stupid all of the time have a higher chance of saying "hey wait, that might not be a good thing to do to a game"
JustProgress
Member
Funny thing is that the only reason I realize how bad it is is because of kill cams.
I just would have used a better example like an arena shooter that has had very little changes or something, just not chess.
LowParry
Member
I don't think I've ever seen accurate or at least close to kill cam with this game. They're just doing something random with no firing or piloting something.
people won't accept an arena shooter example because no one is smart or plays arena shooters or knows why any of them are good
Kill cams don't work in this game, guessing that is on the list for TU2
SR 38 just playing on and off. Even didn't play for a whole day since launch!!!
JustProgress
Member
Wow, that makes a lot of sense. I've gotten a few where the person just shoots in random spots...odd.
SatansReverence
Hipster Princess
Give us a fucking connection filter already...
Are you saying saying armor sets from past games weren't generic, because quite a few of the ones in this game are derived from previous titles.
Aside from Defender and Warmaster (and Orbital), I think most are...okay.
They remind me of CoD killcams, they show what happened, just on a half a second lag.
Chess is not a great example because it's a board game that has endured for hundreds of years, not a video game that must come out with a sequel every few years and attract new players in a dynamically changing industry.
Chess doesn't have to adapt. It's just chess. Halo does.
just because some guy that you're never, ever going to meet who doesn't give a single shit needs a bigger quarterly bonus mandates that the game come out with a new entry every few years doesn't mean it's wrong to talk about game design without injecting the element of money into it
Game is probably too accurate with their numbers. I want to say Reach refreshes every 5 minutes or something like that, while Halo 3's refreshed every hour. I'd expect Halo 4's to be similar to Reach's system of tracking players.
I thought this is the 'fixed' version. Didn't Frankie say that the first update adressed kill cams?
IOnEI Falcon
Member
The number of people it says are online has been incorrect since Halo 3.
I always thought Halo 3's refreshed every 24 hours, and even then it was often inflated.
I don't remember the exact numbers, maybe Fyrewulff could post 'em. But you're correct, Halo 3's was far from accurate. Reach's and 4's are much more exact.
Your desire to compare this game to chess is off base. Period. There are development and sales realities that exist which demand certain actions. They are trying to make money, not to make the most balanced and skill based shooter to ever hit the market. You cannot leverage the game design of chess with that of Halo because they share nothing in common: not cultural relevancy, not input/output design, not execution demands, not setup requirements, not sale expectancy, not market competition, not player-opponent interaction, not anything other than the fact that you can define them both, overall, as a game.
You're not talking game design. You're talking bullshit.