The new sniper is probably the worst part of the game so far. So many issues with it.
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neogaffer1
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I agree on the sniper. The map and the speed of the game make it impractical to use. If it was like Titanfall, fast paced but large maps, you could still stay stationary and use it practically without making yourself too much of a target, or if the game was slower you could maybe stay stationary long enough to get a few kills before people are on top of you, but Empire is simply way too small and the pace is way too fast for you to be able to stay stationary without expecting to be attacked while in scope.
Poodlestrike
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I think it can work, but it would require a higher level of team communication than what you usually get in MM. There are good sniping perches (both bases have some good spots, Tower as well), but you really do need your team to watch your back.
I'm terrible with it as well, but then, I've always been a terrible sniper
Seriously though, most people I've talked to about it think it's a bit too easy to use, if anything. Might just be bit of an adjustment.
Yeah I def haven't adjusted to it. I wasn't the greatest sniper in other halo games but I could get kills with it. Not so many here lol
Just went 22-3 though
VlaudTheImpaler
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Dental Plan
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I actually like that quite a bit. I hope that we can get more taunts that unlock by playing the game.
Brilliant.
Twin Tails
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yup, also best ver of DMR in Halo
WonkyPanda
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Giving the BR some love tonight: http://xboxclips.com/WonkyPanda/943bc246-bf83-4cf7-a64a-5a8142d7a69b
GringoSuave89
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This fills me with joy. DMR was always one of my favorite weapons.
Leyasu
Banned
I'm in Europe, and I have definitely played some games out of region. But on games in my region... Wow so good.
Loving this game. Best halo by a long shot. Sorry it had to be said...
NameGenerated
Who paid you to grab Dr. Pavel?
I swear my AR does like half the damage that my opponents do. And Empire has some straight awful spawns.
My impressions so far:
Things I like
-Sound effects (some of the best I've heard)
-Team mate chatter
-Map design
-Movement (Sprint,thrusters, and clamber) Almost has the fluidity of Titanfall.
-Every gun seems useful depending on the situation
Things I don't like
-Kill cam doesn't always work right
-The announcer can get repetitive.
-The celebration screen.( It could work if they had more variety of celebrations or each Spartan had an unlockable celebration to perform)
-The pregame lobby is kinda of dull.
Things I like
-Sound effects (some of the best I've heard)
-Team mate chatter
-Map design
-Movement (Sprint,thrusters, and clamber) Almost has the fluidity of Titanfall.
-Every gun seems useful depending on the situation
Things I don't like
-Kill cam doesn't always work right
-The announcer can get repetitive.
-The celebration screen.( It could work if they had more variety of celebrations or each Spartan had an unlockable celebration to perform)
-The pregame lobby is kinda of dull.
Leyasu
Banned
Sometimes I think that, then other times it just tears them apart..
Bornstellar
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My jaw legit dropped. Can't wait to get my hands on this.
Broadbandito
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I think this is due to the map it is on, which makes it difficult to use.
Dreams-Visions
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Huh. So moving up in "rank" quickly is just about playing with the magnum.
I spent a whole round with just that and got +87. How fucking lame.
I spent a whole round with just that and got +87. How fucking lame.
neogaffer1
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So I started to notice something. Every time I use a grenade, it's good at suppressing or pushing the enemy back but rarely do I get any kills unless I have line of sight on them, at which point I could just kill them with my weapon.
But there's been so many times where the other team throws a grenade blindly up a corridor and it takes me out, whether it lands exactly at my feet or just close enough to take me out.
Is there something I'm missing, or am I just really unlucky?
But there's been so many times where the other team throws a grenade blindly up a corridor and it takes me out, whether it lands exactly at my feet or just close enough to take me out.
Is there something I'm missing, or am I just really unlucky?
RSB
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Radar?
Marky Mark
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Twin Tails
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are you just chucking them or bouncing them off the floor or walls?
ebullientprism
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All the wealons I've tried feel fucjing great. DMR and pistol are the stand outs for me.
I just can't get enough of headshots with the magnum, playing gives me a fizzy willy 
Seriously tho it's phenomenal, I'm going to be gutted when it ends and the wait begins and seriously well done on 343 taking some brave risks and changes to make halo fresh and fabulous again.
The ranking is amazing too, gives such a great element to the meta play, it should be the norm with the exeption being a un ranked playlist.
Seriously tho it's phenomenal, I'm going to be gutted when it ends and the wait begins and seriously well done on 343 taking some brave risks and changes to make halo fresh and fabulous again.
The ranking is amazing too, gives such a great element to the meta play, it should be the norm with the exeption being a un ranked playlist.
Yeah on Eden, it should be fine as that map is a lot more open.
Bornstellar
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Coming hot off some great Titanfall matches, I really hope the added mechanics in Halo 5 can come close to that brilliance. That evade ninja gives me hope.
Twin Tails
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Scooping in with the sniper feels a little weird but still packs a punch
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Let me dive way too deep on the subject of end-game celebrations... Disclaimer: These celebrations are not a big deal, I just think they're interesting.
I bet Halo 5's celebration scenes were created for two reasons: Merging Halo's multiplayer mode with the story/universe, and emphasizing the mode's focus on competitive gaming. They want to characterize the spartans, and they'd like those characterizations to emphasize the whole competitive shtick. Cool, fine, great.
Here's one of the biggest issues with competitive gaming: Shitty abrasive communities. LoL, Dota, CS... They all have community issues, and that is almost always what blocks outsiders from joining. "It looks neat but I'd just get yelled at." When a game is about interacting with members of its community, the community *is* the game's face. So, esports games emphasize the everloving shit out of respectful interaction. They investigate reported players, reward well-behaved players, and generally spread 'respect' throughout their game's messaging. Emphasis on that last part.
The error is here: Does the celebration come across as genuine, or antagonistic? Right now, it reads as the latter to me like a high-pressure-douche-nozzle. So from a game design perspective: What is the effect of forcing winning players to antagonize the losing team? It's actually a really interesting question. One of the only times the game takes control of your multiplayer character, it is for this. That makes it significant, whether or not the designers considered that. That's why this tiny detail is getting so many responses.
I bet Halo 5's celebration scenes were created for two reasons: Merging Halo's multiplayer mode with the story/universe, and emphasizing the mode's focus on competitive gaming. They want to characterize the spartans, and they'd like those characterizations to emphasize the whole competitive shtick. Cool, fine, great.
Here's one of the biggest issues with competitive gaming: Shitty abrasive communities. LoL, Dota, CS... They all have community issues, and that is almost always what blocks outsiders from joining. "It looks neat but I'd just get yelled at." When a game is about interacting with members of its community, the community *is* the game's face. So, esports games emphasize the everloving shit out of respectful interaction. They investigate reported players, reward well-behaved players, and generally spread 'respect' throughout their game's messaging. Emphasis on that last part.
The error is here: Does the celebration come across as genuine, or antagonistic? Right now, it reads as the latter to me like a high-pressure-douche-nozzle. So from a game design perspective: What is the effect of forcing winning players to antagonize the losing team? It's actually a really interesting question. One of the only times the game takes control of your multiplayer character, it is for this. That makes it significant, whether or not the designers considered that. That's why this tiny detail is getting so many responses.
To me, if I take it at face value and not as a misstep in the game's design, it reads as a comment on the spartan program's inhumanity. How it transforms innocent babies into murderous douche-nozzles. But I'm not sure that's what is intended, nor justified.
Marky Mark
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If only the victory animations included teabagging...
Always the first weapon i go for on Truth. Love it!
Traversal in this game is the best it's ever been shy of actual wall running. Using thrusters +clamber i get across maps so fast.( i've wanted this kind of movement/traversal in Halo ever since i first played Crysis 2, I still don't know how to slide yet though.)
Thruster was the only armor ability i used in H4 and i am glad it's a regular ability now. Even with all this it still feels like Halo, just a lot faster. I am curious about how this will play out in BTB.
Bornstellar
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Gonna guess you slide by sprinting then hitting crouch mid-sprint.
I wanna report a bug.
You guys know the big hologram in truth right? Right above where the sword spawns. I noticed something.
Sooo... in 500 years we will discover a new planet in our own solar system. Inside the meteor barrier. Seriously, 343i doesn't even know how many planets there are in our solar systemer, how can they make a good game ?! I dont trust them... Pre - order canceled.
PS: and no, the inner circle is not the sun, because it has a spinning dot in it. I double checked it.
So, Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars aaaand... Whos the new guy ?
You guys know the big hologram in truth right? Right above where the sword spawns. I noticed something.
Sooo... in 500 years we will discover a new planet in our own solar system. Inside the meteor barrier. Seriously, 343i doesn't even know how many planets there are in our solar systemer, how can they make a good game ?! I dont trust them... Pre - order canceled.
PS: and no, the inner circle is not the sun, because it has a spinning dot in it. I double checked it.
So, Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars aaaand... Whos the new guy ?
j/k, not cancelling pre-order.
Bornstellar
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I wanna report a bug.
You guys know the big hologram in truth right? Right above where the sword spawns. I noticed something.
Sooo... in 500 years we will discover a new planet in our own solar system. Inside the meteor barrier. Seriously, 343i doesn't even know how many planets there are in our solar systemer, how can they make a good game ?! I dont trust them... Pre - order canceled.
PS: and no, the inner circle is not the sun, because it has a spinning dot in it. I double checked it.
So, Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars aaaand... Whos the new guy ?
j/k, not cancelling pre-order.
The Traveler.
I wanna report a bug.
You guys know the big hologram in truth right? Right above where the sword spawns. I noticed something.
Sooo... in 500 years we will discover a new planet in our own solar system. Inside the meteor barrier. Seriously, 343i doesn't even know how many planets there are in our solar systemer, how can they make a good game ?! I dont trust them... Pre - order canceled.
PS: and no, the inner circle is not the sun, because it has a spinning dot in it. I double checked it.
So, Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars aaaand... Whos the new guy ?
j/k, not cancelling pre-order.
Is that supposed to be our solar system?
Twin Tails
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that is suppose to be system where the 1st Halo is located or something like that. i think????
I'll take your word for it. That's definitely something good you caught. No idea how that gets by the person who modeled that.
Fatmanp
Member
This. On numerous occasions I have had 25+ kills with very few deaths and lost a lot of ranking points because of idiots going neg ten.
Blue Ninja
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I wanna report a bug.
You guys know the big hologram in truth right? Right above where the sword spawns. I noticed something.
Sooo... in 500 years we will discover a new planet in our own solar system. Inside the meteor barrier. Seriously, 343i doesn't even know how many planets there are in our solar systemer, how can they make a good game ?! I dont trust them... Pre - order canceled.
PS: and no, the inner circle is not the sun, because it has a spinning dot in it. I double checked it.
So, Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars aaaand... Whos the new guy ?
j/k, not cancelling pre-order.
Isn't it the Treshold system? We're near Threshold and a Halo ring, after all.
DATABASE DATABASE
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I've never liked ADS on pistols because the muzzle jumps after every shot, covering your target. I think the smart scope zoom would be much better and more "Halo-y".
It's basically Starcraft 2's system. They apparently have employed the guy who did that system.
You do placement games then you are put onto a ladder/tier.
Eg I was put on Bronze II, midway through the 2 tier for team slayer.
It looks like you will have different rankings for each gameplay type.
Should attract the Destiny crowd.
Do you see yourself go up and down instantly based on per-game wins? Or is a lot of the mechanics stored behind the scenes until the system decides you're ready to jump to the next division?
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