backflip10019
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Yeah, that's the biggest disappointment about BTB for me -- how all the maps are created in Forge. They're all different enough, but that gametype sorely needs some original maps with original artwork.
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Yeah, that's the biggest disappointment about BTB for me -- how all the maps are created in Forge. They're all different enough, but that gametype sorely needs some original maps with original artwork.
TheCanisDirus
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Same. Snooze fest. Somebody wake me when we have 11-12 true, non-remix, non-forge, multiplayer maps with assault, 1flag, oddball, juggernaut and infection gametypes. Seriously 343i... more REQ junk... we dont need that... we could use the core gametypes back first and foremost.
bobs...onGaf
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Did you really play that stuff all that often in the older halo games?
I'm all for variety but I would much rather 343 focus on maps over fringe gametypes like juggernaut
I know infection was more mainstream but I would take a new map over it any day
Should say I'm dissapointed in 343's policy to call remixes and forge maps new maps - so I would much rather effort focused on actual new maps than game types.
Hell removing gametyles like breakout will make me happier than having more gametyles
TheCanisDirus
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I sure did... going back to H2. You'd be surprised how popular stuff like oddball, assault and 1 flag were. Jug was great but more of a custom game thing. We dont even have any of these in custom game options. Ugh. Such a brilliant set of bones Halo 5... yet there is no meat at all.
Are you serious? Team Objective existed for a reason. yes CTF and Slayer are the most popular modes. But people loved jumping into objective playlists to break up the monotony.
Just allowing these gametypes to be played on existing maps would take major strides towards adding some much needed diversity AND it should be much easier and less time consuming than creating new maps.
There's no reason we shouldn't be expecting them to be doing both.
bobs...onGaf
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Oddball assault and 1 flag are good but I guess it depends on prioritisation
I would want 343 to prioritise maps first
I just hope we aren't both be left sad as 343 must be tempted to prioritise req packs above all else
There are issues with aiming that they are working on.
TheCanisDirus
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I too want more maps Arena maps. They've focused so heavily on the uber-casual front with Warzone and the whole Req point system... i really hate the whole thing. Previous Halo titles launched with 11-13 (i believe) unique, developer made maps and gametypes ranging from Slayer all the way through Griffball.
The "core" arena players are left out in the cold with H5 so far.
inoperativ
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Some controllers had issues but that was fixed in the last update AFAIK. It takes a while to get used to the aiming and it is very unforgiving if you try to use weapons outside of their effective range (when the reticle doesn't turn red any more) which often makes it a bit more apparent when using ADS.
There's an update on the way which will give more options for configuring the aiming but it's probably not going to make it any easier, just play the game and you'll get used to it after a while.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1121090
There might be an Community OT for it once it arrives.
Thanks very much. Yeah, I'd expect an OT as well. Look forward to it.
Yea I over aim a good bit when scoped in... I hope one of the controller options that launches this month allows us to have a different sensitivity for when we scope in as opposed to firing from the hip.
Would keep my sens at 4 like it is right now but lower it to 3 when zoomed in most likely.
Would keep my sens at 4 like it is right now but lower it to 3 when zoomed in most likely.
backflip10019
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Reposting this since it kinda got lost a few pages back.
Here's the crowning achievement of my Halo 5 career so far -- and it all happens in the first 20 seconds of the match:
http://xboxclips.com/backflip10019/862e8270-d2b3-4b9b-b109-c789f2bbf556
Here's the crowning achievement of my Halo 5 career so far -- and it all happens in the first 20 seconds of the match:
http://xboxclips.com/backflip10019/862e8270-d2b3-4b9b-b109-c789f2bbf556
inoperativ
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I would be very surprised if they ever created paid DLC for this game. REQ packs are clearly raking in a lot of money, they wouldn't want to disincentivise people from buying them by breaking the "deal" of REQ packs in exchange for free content updates.
I imagine that date is there in case the population dies completely in order to avoid having to support a dead game past a certain date, but as long as people are playing and spending some money I assume they will keep creating content in some form or another.
Hopefully that is considered...if they make a lot of money on reqs they keep supporting
WhiteRabbitEXE
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Regarding prioritizing maps versus gametypes... It's just kind of crazy to me that we're even debating how soon we need new gametypes instead of just, ya know, already having them at launch...
Before Halo 5 I would have never considered the idea of a Halo game lacking core gametypes. :\ It would be one thing if we were just waiting for them to show up matchmaking, but straight up not have half these modes at all is just absurd.
Before Halo 5 I would have never considered the idea of a Halo game lacking core gametypes. :\ It would be one thing if we were just waiting for them to show up matchmaking, but straight up not have half these modes at all is just absurd.
No kidding. Talk about taking things for granted....
LOCUS and Wetwork are in the REQ collection already; i think they are already in (they are just Ultra Rare+ i believe)
FUNKNOWN iXi
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Nice clips, Snapshots are always cool.
Samurai G0SU
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Well the map count can exceed 18+, since they changed it on their GOLD announcement. I do forsee Forge maps being counted since they go in- art it up, place spawn points and whatever else.
still hurts that the warzone maps were a big lie.
Come on 343i, stop over-promising and under-delivering. Warzone has 3 maps ( RAID/ARC/MARCH) 6 different alterations. Dont count those alterations as maps, they are not remixes*. Placing walls and changing timers shouldn't count as another map when they have the same exact building/art placement as the three mentioned.
To think we're getting 6 more, well now i know to expect 3 actual maps and 3 alterations for warzone assault.
/rant
still hurts that the warzone maps were a big lie.
Come on 343i, stop over-promising and under-delivering. Warzone has 3 maps ( RAID/ARC/MARCH) 6 different alterations. Dont count those alterations as maps, they are not remixes*. Placing walls and changing timers shouldn't count as another map when they have the same exact building/art placement as the three mentioned.
To think we're getting 6 more, well now i know to expect 3 actual maps and 3 alterations for warzone assault.
/rant
This remix maps are not really a problem for me takem they are like Truth and Regret, they are remix, but they feel like two different maps, IMO is like a difference between Zealot and Midship. Both Truth and Regret look and play like two totally different maps.
I still hope to see more Developer maps in the future and hopefully also some Koth or Oddball.
I still hope to see more Developer maps in the future and hopefully also some Koth or Oddball.
TheCanisDirus
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They're all similar i dont care what anybody says... playing the remixes is nothing like playing a truly different map. Sure, they might have made a few tweaks and put something in / took something out... but it's the same 75% of the map. IT really just seems like a corporate calculated strategy to maximize profits while keeping costs to a minimum. And i cant fault them for that... they're a business just like any other and they're focusing their time on what is netting them the most profit... the utter shit Warzone and Req system.
Samurai G0SU
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I Really hope someone in a meeting didnt say .. "well we have this content ready to go for launch, but lets just take some of it out and release it over time. Maybe tweak it a little and make it a little better, if you can. We can move these items to our 'sustain' project that lasts until june 2016.How does that sound team?"
Team - "sure"
Team - "sure"
So in terms of playlists, what are people looking for as the ultimate rollout? The only stuff I really want is a social slayer list, an objective (ranked), and action sack (unranked). Then you've got the current BTB, Arena, TS, SWAT, and Breakout + Warzone lists, and then rotational list every week.
inoperativ
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This sounds perfect to me. Rotational should be stuff like Griffball and Rocket Race.
I think it's almost certain at this point. Maybe this update will include Grifball (couldn't care less) as I believe they said that would be one of the first to return but I definitely do not expect all the missing gametypes. They would have at least mentioned it by now with all the complaints going around. I'd be very happy to be proven wrong.
If they don't mention it in the next weekly the gametype dream will definitely be dead for this update.
Poodlestrike
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Grifball means Assault, so that's 2
Good point!! Now I care considerably more..
Man launching forge w/o support for all the other game modes would be a slap in the face really. I've got my fingers crossed that they'll all be in for community and customs, even if they aren't added to an Arena playlist.
Also I'd love things like Forge Proving Ground lists where players get to play up-and-coming picks for matchmaking and provide feedback on them.
What is your Gamertag?
Warzone Map counts as 2 Maps though cuz 343i gonna 343i...
VincentMatts
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This would be like me selling a car with a switch inside that changes the color of the car and saying youre getting 2 cars.
DarthWalden
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Remix or not, how does offering more maps for free maximize profits?
If you take the top off of your Jeep, you have a second Jeep. Right?
therealminime
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I'm with you. Warzone is basically all I ever play solo because it's more relaxed. Social playlists were always the only place I played in previous Halo games so they cannot come soon enough for Halo 5.
victreeb3l
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I'm fine with just Slayer, CTF and Strongholds. I just want more non-forge maps for BTB.
I'd love it if there were emotes or some way of saying 'GG' Rocket League style without needing a mic. Some games are so much fun you just want to say 'Nice match' to your team without needing a mic. At the moment it's sort of all or nothing, either someone has a mic or no communication.
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