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Halo Infinite Launch Was Like A Runner Tripping And Falling At The Finish Line, Xbox Boss Says
chromhound
Member
They were too busy working on Microtransactions that they forgot about the game
As an analogy it’s not quite right tho.
It’s more like they decided to run a 10 mile race. They tripped and fell so at one point they decided to start the race again, then decided 10 miles is just too hard, so made it a 4 miles race. Then made it 3/4 of the way through, realised they were super out of shape and exhausted, so they just moved the finish line a mile closer. Then patted themselves on the back for completing a 3 mile race. They then immediately booked themselves into a few marathons over the coming year. Promising themselves they’d actually train for it this time…but it was cold outside so they just binge watched shows on Netflix.
It’s more like they decided to run a 10 mile race. They tripped and fell so at one point they decided to start the race again, then decided 10 miles is just too hard, so made it a 4 miles race. Then made it 3/4 of the way through, realised they were super out of shape and exhausted, so they just moved the finish line a mile closer. Then patted themselves on the back for completing a 3 mile race. They then immediately booked themselves into a few marathons over the coming year. Promising themselves they’d actually train for it this time…but it was cold outside so they just binge watched shows on Netflix.
I really liked Halo 4, also a showcase on the hardware .
HYDE
Member
And participation trophies.
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Half the community left the multi a month after launch and never returned. It was awful and not halo. The single player wasn't much better and the new enmoes were not fun at all to fight. It did look good though.
Umbasaborne
Banned
Thats not an excuse. Im not giving any publisher a pass for releasing a “put it out now, finish it with patches” type game. Its fucking inexcusable. The way they launched halo infinite was a sham. Despite the good gameplay, its currently the worst game in the series for me because its flat out unfinished. Its pure incompetence
TheTony316
Member
More like tripping and falling on the way to the starting blocks at the special olympics.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Rendered Tangent
Banned
I don't know that I'd go that far.
Then again, I don't know the series well enough to know if any staples were left out.
All I know is it had a long, enjoyable campaign and a good multiplayer.
Jinzo Prime
Member
I'd say Matt lost the plot, but that would imply that he had it in the first place.
Umbasaborne
Banned
I found that the campaign was devoid of the variety that made earlier games so memorable. Its story basically said “fuck you” to anyone who was invested in the plots of halo 4 and 5 like i was, and it used many copy paste enviroment. Missing online co op is huge. Coop has been a halo staple for the entire series. Its absence was for me, totally unacceptable. The mulitplayer has a great base, but it launched undercooked, with a focus on microtransactions. The fact that the game is still unfinished, a full year after launch, after a 6 year development cycle which included a full year delay, just shows how incompetent 343 has become
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Rendered Tangent
Banned
Well, I enjoyed the campaign and I can only speak for myself.
PharaoTutAnchAmun
Member
recursive
Member
Yea because halo is what is keeping sony from a monopoly. There is no monopoly in the console space.
Batiman
Banned
Ya it’s great
Mibu no ookami
Banned
Did anyone say there was a monopoly?
Is Halo Microsoft's biggest franchise, by far? Without Halo what happens to this ecosystem? It would shrink tremendously and I think they should be afraid of Bungie's new relationship with Sony.
I'd love to hear your breakdown of the Xbox platform and who buys it and why. Everything adds up, not sure how that is controversial to you.
Trogdor1123
Member
This game can’t be that bad. It is going to my goal to play it through this Christmas break
The Tourmaline Gorilla
Banned
Precisely!
I know money is the general motivating factor with a lot of these things, but forget the short-term money; they need to think long-term sustainability and growth. The brand doesn't have the value it once had, but it can be reclaimed.
I'd put a team aside to work on a new Halo. If I don't have the numbers to do that; I'd hire more and see where I can save money or redirect resources, and try my best to do so without a bunch of layoff. That said, some people will have to go. There's no room, time and money to be spent on people who are dead weight or pulling Halo down. A complete clean up would be in order. While the larger team works on Infinite, the smaller team would be working on a new Halo; a Halo that will deliver everything Infinite was supposed to deliver, and then some. As Infinite comes to its end, and the new Halo gets larger in scope, I'd slowly usher across the staff/resources from Infinite, towards the new Halo. Fuck it; I'd call it Halo Infinite Rebirth, and by golly I was going to deliver!
Low Moral Fibre
Member
It's a shame as the combat is some of the best I've ever played and the grappling hook really makes a huge difference to how you can take on those bigger bases but the whole thing feels like a proof of concept and not something they have spent years on.
YeulEmeralda
Linux User
Is throwing your developers under the bus normal? How does it help anyone?
Jesus I actually prefer how Sony does it: don't communicate, ignore "fans", just make games and fuck influencers and ecelebs.
None of this HOW DO YOU DO FELLOW GAMERS nonsense.
Jesus I actually prefer how Sony does it: don't communicate, ignore "fans", just make games and fuck influencers and ecelebs.
None of this HOW DO YOU DO FELLOW GAMERS nonsense.
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
It's still 343s best Halo game.
Deputy Moonman
Member
It's not. What you have are a bunch of people piling onto the bad publicity the game received for delayed content. For what was supposed to be a live service game with frequent content drops, the content has been a ridiculously long drip feed instead with year long delays on a lot of basic features. The base game was met universal praise. Infinite is a fun game and it's far from being dead. While it has a lot of issues, I personally believe that focusing on adding new maps more than anything else would massively improve player engagement. The release of the forge beta is going to help, especially once Infinite has a custom games browser and a dedicated forge playlist.
DarkMage619
$MSFT
Have you played Forge yet? Most who have jumped in said it is fantastic. I'd wager most of the detractors in this thread haven't played it at all.
I don't see why Halo needs to be "the same" to continue to exist. Especially considering COD plays nothing like Halo.
Deputy Moonman
Member
I have not yet played any of the forge maps but I've seen a lot of good things being said. The maps that have been created look outstanding. I can't wait to see what is created down the road.
Kokoloko85
Member
Yet it reviewed so well and got publisher of the year 
The industry doesnt take bribes right….
The industry doesnt take bribes right….
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
So many dumb takes on this forum about Halo. Than again, most haven't even played the game and are just talking out their ass. The core game is great.
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Neff
Member
I'm tired of Microsoft acknowledging their ineptness in general.
Crayon
Member
I think the word is self-defecating.
JayK47
Member
Most talented? Have you seen large developers these days? They hire based on skin and hair color and how unique your gender is.
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
No , it was QWOP trying to outrun Usain Bolt....For those unaware qwop is a flash game unplayable
fallingdove
Member
It doesn’t matter how talented or efficient the people you hire are if you aren’t able to manage team dynamics. By hiring and acquiring as rapidly as Microsoft have, they greatly underestimated the complexity of integration. I honestly believe that’s why their investments shifted from studio acquisition to publisher acquisition. Acquiring large scale operations along with IPs and talent is much easier than duct taping a handful of teams to your existing infrastructure.
I have no doubt that Microsoft Game Studios could become a force to be reckoned with but effectively managing talent is easier said than done and MGS have never shown competency in the area. Something like Bungie leaving Xbox and joining Sony is a prime example of that.
Gamerdude123
Banned
people are still asking this in 2022?
People get hired based on gender/race/sexual and political orientation and not based on talent/qualifications. The talented people simply don´t get hired anymore unless they happen to be a minority, a woman or gay and liberal (ideally all of it). This has been going on for almost a decade now in every facet of the workforce and we are reaping the rewards of this. Western Video games/movies have never been worse than they are now.
If we use sports as an analogy then essentially we live in a world now where mens sports has been abolished and you are only allowed to watch inferior women sports. If you then say you prefer to watch Ronaldo, Messi, Lebron, Tom Brady, etc... over women sports then you are being called a racist, bigot, sexist, incel, etc...
We are essentially only getting video games now that were developed by the C or D team of a company because the A and B team has been benched/fired for being too white and male.
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Batiman
Banned
I’m guessing you didn’t see the GOW ragnarok team? I think they’re game turned out alright…
Gamerdude123
Banned
the game might be good, but it will be forgotten within a month. It´s not a timeless classic that will still be talked about in 10+ years.
We will never get truly groundbreaking Western games again like Half Life, Diablo 2, Left4Dead2, Halo: Combat Evolved, GTA 3, etc... because the people with talent/passion don´t work in the industry anymore and have been replaced by diversity hires and political activists. Hence all the games we get nowadays are remakes or franchise sequels that are worse games than their predecessors.
Luckily we still have Nintendo and some Eastern European devs who still make great games. Although it´s only a matter of time until they also get infected by the woke virus.
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Interfectum
Member
I’m playing it now. There are a lot of questionable design decisions that got overlooked for some reason.
bentanchorbolt
Banned
My friends and I play it all the time, games launch quick. Weird that people spend more time talking and reading about games than enjoying them.
Hot5pur
Gold Member
I just got to play this game after holding off for a year waiting for co-op.
It definitely exceeded my expectation with how fun it is (just the campaign, I'm more of a SP/co-op kinda player).
The sandbox is quite good, with all the weapons, vehicles, and gadgets, especially the zipline thing.
It's probably my favorite Halo game and also the best FPS game I've ever played.
Too bad about the launch though, seems they were trying to do too much and also hamstrung themselves with the old gen consoles.
It definitely exceeded my expectation with how fun it is (just the campaign, I'm more of a SP/co-op kinda player).
The sandbox is quite good, with all the weapons, vehicles, and gadgets, especially the zipline thing.
It's probably my favorite Halo game and also the best FPS game I've ever played.
Too bad about the launch though, seems they were trying to do too much and also hamstrung themselves with the old gen consoles.
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