DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Not exactly the same thing but I remember when Sony's God of War "screenshots" they provided to all the gaming websites were 1024x768 with anti-aliasing lol
Former Xbox Boss Says He Knew Sony's Killzone 2 E3 Showcase Was BS
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Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Come on. The Wii U demo didn't even pretend to be a game lol. It was just that, a tech demo.
Perrott
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The TLOU2 E3 demo has a different time of day than the final game, so any comparison wouldn't be truly precise unless PC modders were to mess with the sun position for a 1:1 shading comparison against the E3 gameplay. In regards to animation work, of course that an E3 showing with ad-hoc executions that follow a very precise script would be much more dense in regards to fine, unique animations than the same encounter being played by the end user.I think so
John from DF
Tlou 2
Finally, the absurd claim from the top right corner is inaccurate as well, since the announcement trailer was rendered entirely in the game engine with a fidelity that matches that of the cutscenes from the final product. It not being "in the game" has more to do with it's status of being a teaser and tone-setter marketing material rather than a cutscene taken straight from the game, as it was the case for the second trailer that showed Abby being hanged at the Seattle forests in the middle of a storm.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Uhh he left Microsoft in 2007, no idea why he would be trying to damage control a canceled Xbox Series game
They got duped with NMS, everyone was hyping that game as this unbelievable, never made before super ambitious and impossible to disappoint game, don't remember what happened with W3
Also, most people talk about K2 CGI debacle, but the MotorStorm trailer was worst, tho maybe it was too ubvious that it wasn't real no one ever believed it from the get-go
MMaRsu
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rofif
Banned
no lol. We were excited. Pople even believed motorstorm
Sushi_Combo
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I mean the end product was just as good, if not better than what was revealed. KZ2 was such a glorious game, for both SP and MP.
Microsoft is laying off over 5,000 people from its Gaming division, replacing them with AI.
Hurry, run to the internet and say, "TWENTY YEARS AGO, Sony made a fake trailer."
Look, how pathetic... They resurrected the delirium of liquid metal dripping before and nobody cared.
This is certainly meant to boost the morale of the Xbox Cult soldiers... In the end, it works, but these Xbox fanatics end up scaring away all the normal people.
Phill Spencer could have chosen the average consumer, the vast majority, but he chose a dozen mentally ill people who live on the internet because nobody likes them in the real world.
Hurry, run to the internet and say, "TWENTY YEARS AGO, Sony made a fake trailer."
Look, how pathetic... They resurrected the delirium of liquid metal dripping before and nobody cared.
This is certainly meant to boost the morale of the Xbox Cult soldiers... In the end, it works, but these Xbox fanatics end up scaring away all the normal people.
Phill Spencer could have chosen the average consumer, the vast majority, but he chose a dozen mentally ill people who live on the internet because nobody likes them in the real world.
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user friendly
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What do you mean wrong trailer? We know the 05 trailer was CGI... Some in here are saying the actual 07 gameplay reveal trailer was soft of "close" to the 05 (CGI) game reveal. You're the 2nd person to try to correct people on that. Unless I'm brain farting.
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Reizo Ryuu
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you are, why would you even talk about the 07 trailer in a topic about the 05 trailer and then just call it "the trailer"
MayauMiao
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I'm referring the article by Gamespot and the timing of it. We all know the Killzone trailer was fake for the longest time, so why suddenly revisit this issue?
No reason to be triggered dude and welcum to neogaf.
MayauMiao
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I'm not referring to Peter Moore but Gamespot timing of the article. Its been talked and acknowledged long ago that the Killzone trailer was fake, so why bringing it up again?
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user friendly
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Because the actual reveal came surprisingly close to looking as good as that staged CGi trailer... Are we not allowed to talk about another Killzone trailer within a Killzone trailer thread?
Reizo Ryuu
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It didn't come surprisingly close at all, the fluid dynamics are a thousand times worse and the frame rate is all over the place, the lighting took a severe downgrade as well.
But I digress, the point is that he said the end result (the actual game) came close to the trailer (07 trailer), and linked a video comparing the two, which is completely irrelevant to the topic being about the 05 trailer, which the end result (the actual game) looks nothing like.
nial
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White Knight Chronicles at TGS 2006.
MMaRsu
Member
Welcome? Ive been here for 20 years, im not triggered (another retarded thing to say), your comment is just silly. You just joined this year, maybe hold back on the grandstanding.
You seem to be the one crying about a former ceo simply making a statement.
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clarky
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lol yeah, sorry your a mong then.
Bernardougf
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Good times with Sony FP ... not so much right now
STARSBarry
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SILKYSMOOTH30FPS
Member
Oh you don't have to tell me that, i am well too aware of the current shitshow situation
Guardian Monkey
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All things considered, i thought it came out pretty close.
Yet 25 years, later we still havent seen anything close to the Zelda Spaceworld demo, IMO.
rofif
Banned
yeah, to be an excited teen in 2005-6. what a nightmare!!!!!!!!!!!!
clarky
Gold Member
I was 35.
rofif
Banned
still - WE had no idea what the games will look like. There was no reason to not beleive it.
360/ps3 was a huge jump. Biggest we've ever seen in 3d generation
digoutyoursoul
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Motorstorm also
Tbh I was more excited for Eyedentify , for the sole reason as to how YouTubers would do funny edits with it
Was Eight Days fake too?
Tbh I was more excited for Eyedentify , for the sole reason as to how YouTubers would do funny edits with it
Was Eight Days fake too?
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user friendly
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It came closer then people expected.
He linked a video that showed the upgrade to the 07 reveal from the initial 07 reveal. Unrelated to the 05 CGI trailer. I an see how you got confused though, maybe you interpreted like they were comparing the 05 reveal to the 07 reveal.
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AeonGaidenRaiden
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Everyone could tell because the animation was too smooth for that time, however i will say this; in a lot of ways the final product we got looked even better. The death animations of the Helgast, even graphics in many ways made it up there, just wasnt as smooth as CGI movie. I dont think anyone that finally got to play KZ2, was disappointed with the final product.
'Former Xbox boss'
digoutyoursoul
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clarky
Gold Member
I said every MAN and his dog.
Teenagers are to be easily impressed before the scars of life jade everything and everyone.
rofif
Banned
Peter molyneux is the real monster
JackMcGunns
Member
It wasn't about the CG itself, but how it was presented. I think it was the first time ever where a CG trailer was shown as if someone was behind a controller. The deceit was akin to Blair Witch Project being real footage that was found. The novelty was the other half of the impact.
lifa-cobex
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That's why i'm yes/no on it.
It was a ton of hype created by games press and reddit etc. But at the same time I would think they would have to give Sony some update reports as it was Sony pushing it at full steam.
So I don't give Sony full blame on it. But I do think they have a small level of being accountable. Even if it was for just turning a blind eye to the development.
I don't remember the Motorstorm adds. I enjoyed the game but it wasn't AAA level or anything.
20 years and not able to ignore a comment, which wasn't even addressed to you to begin with? Also what difference does it make to be around here for so long or not, have you received a trigger-insurance-vip-pass or what?
If you're fine with his statement, then you shouldn't have a problem with mine either. If anything, you are the one, who is crying about a comment not me. Better you go outside, get some fresh air and touch grass.
And now back to the topic, this guy should look at recent stuff like Perfect Dark. They not only tried to deceive, they even cancelled it. One of the only things I was excited about and now another potential ps5 game is gone.
Reizo Ryuu
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Nobody except the poster "got confused", the video is a straight comparison to 07 and retail, which is immaterial to the topic.
LordCBH
Member
I got so hyped anytime Vs 13 got shown off.
I still enjoyed 15 when it finally hit, but everything shown about Vs13 was just on another level…probably cause it was fake
rofif
Banned
yeah xv was amazing. I love it so much.
but 13vs would've been so good....
LordCBH
Member
I finally platinumed 15 last year. Only thing I had left was the survival skill and I just never wanted to do it. NG+ with all the upgrades and updates made me do it. Liked it at launch. Loved it with all the updates they added over time.
user friendly
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I don't think he was using that as the comparison from the 05 to the 07, it seems you interpreted it that way though.
Nobody except the poster "got confused", the video is a straight comparison to 07 and retail, which is immaterial to the topic.
RaidenJTr7
Member
Even Eight days was shown at Sony E3 with" gameplay" etc then canceled, so...it didn't exist neither deep down, or Agent..
LordCBH
Member
Still wish Agent didn't just disappear. Was super interested in it
Reizo Ryuu
Member
Nobody interpreted it that way, in fact there's nothing to "interpet", he's talking about the wrong trailer in comparing it to retail.