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Halo: Infinite |OT| Campaign. Evolved.

Bernkastel

Ask me about my fanboy energy!
The sun never sets on Zeta Halo.

Night time is not dark enough.
Its an artificial ring world created by the Forerunners. The older halo installations had artificial sunlight that lights and dims from the Halo's atmosphere to create an artificial illusion of day and night. Installation 07 or Zeta Halo is the only surviving installation from the original array, its diameter was reduced to 10,000 km like the newer arrays from 30,000 km after most of its superstructure was discarded due to heavy damage. The "sunlight" is artificial and the wildlife and forest was artificially seeded.
 
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MidGenRefresh

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Its an artificial ring world created by the Forerunners. The older halo installations had artificial sunlight that lights and dims from the Halo's atmosphere to create an artificial illusion of day and night. Installation 07 or Zeta Halo is the only surviving installation from the original array, its diameter was reduced to 10,000 km like the newer arrays from 30,000 km after most of its superstructure was discarded due to heavy damage. The "sunlight" is artificial and the wildlife and forest was artificially seeded.

Cool story. Night time in the first Halo looks much better.
 

MidGenRefresh

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Sunlight in Alpha Halo directly came from the sun in Soell system as it orbited the gas giant Threshold.

Ring with natural sun -> proper night time
Ring with no natural sun -> constant day time

?

Listen, these are bullshit lore reasons. It's all made up. Nothing is stopping 343 from making a proper, dark and atmospheric night time and just saying "listen kids, this is how Forerunners designed the ring".

I can guarantee more people will complain about this. There's so much potential for diverse gameplay with proper night time that's basically wasted here.

That said, game looks beautiful. I'm playing MP right now and I'm blown away by attention to details, texturing work and atmospheric effects. Gorgeous game that will age pretty well due to smart design decisions.
 
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Kev Kev

Member
Ring with natural sun -> proper night time
Ring with no natural sun -> constant day time

?

Listen, these are bullshit lore reasons. It's all made up. Nothing is stopping 343 from making a proper, dark and atmospheric night time and just saying "listen kids, this is how Forerunners designed the ring".

I can guarantee more people will complain about this. There's so much potential for diverse gameplay with proper night time that's basically wasted here.

That said, game looks beautiful. I'm playing MP right now and I'm blown away by attention to details, texturing work and atmospheric effects. Gorgeous game that will age pretty well due to smart design decisions.
Ok first of all, someone needs to say it, your kind of being a dick. Secondly, they made a ring world with lighting thats accurate according to its position in the system. Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean it’s bad.

At any rate, you’re the only person complaining about this, so have fun being alone on that hill I guess.
 

MidGenRefresh

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Ok first of all, someone needs to say it, your kind of being a dick. Secondly, they made a ring world with lighting thats accurate according to its position in the system. Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean it’s bad.

At any rate, you’re the only person complaining about this, so have fun being alone on that hill I guess.

Listen, calm down and relax. Take a breather. There's no need for name calling. You're the only person here that's negative.

You can like something and still criticize parts of it. It's called having an opinion.

I'm the only person complaining about this? Oh, wait... what's this? One of the most popular online personalities in Halo space? How can it be? :messenger_grinning_sweat:

Timestamped at 4:25
 

Kev Kev

Member
Listen, calm down and relax. Take a breather. There's no need for name calling. You're the only person here that's negative.

You can like something and still criticize parts of it. It's called having an opinion.

I'm the only person complaining about this? Oh, wait... what's this? One of the most popular online personalities in Halo space? How can it be? :messenger_grinning_sweat:

Timestamped at 4:25

cool story, but your opinion is shit and no one cares.
 

MidGenRefresh

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Makes sense when you consider it’s a ring and not a planet. From a gameplay perspective it also makes sense. Halo is not about sneaking around in the dark.

No, God forbid. This is not Splinter Cell.

A proper night time would make some gadgets like motion tracker, flashlight or snipe scope more useful and would spice up the gameplay a little.

Think classic Halo CE:

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Leyasu

Banned
Halo Infinite has the Slipspace Engine according to Google, i wonder if DLSS will be supported?
I was in theatre mode the other night watching a film and then pausing it looking for for nice sreenshots etc. I noticed some things that have been exactly the same in all theatre modes on previous games. For example, muzzle flashes will disappear when you get close with the camera

A limitation of theatre mode, remants from the old engine still present or MP is nt running on slipspace?
 

Bernkastel

Ask me about my fanboy energy!
Ring with natural sun -> proper night time
Ring with no natural sun -> constant day time

?

Listen, these are bullshit lore reasons. It's all made up. Nothing is stopping 343 from making a proper, dark and atmospheric night time and just saying "listen kids, this is how Forerunners designed the ring".

I can guarantee more people will complain about this. There's so much potential for diverse gameplay with proper night time that's basically wasted here.

That said, game looks beautiful. I'm playing MP right now and I'm blown away by attention to details, texturing work and atmospheric effects. Gorgeous game that will age pretty well due to smart design decisions.
I just wanted to point out that the sunlight is artificial. This is from Halo Primordium (2012). This artificial sunlight not having a proper night like Halo CE may be either due to 343i didn't try or their is some lore reason I don't know of. But I thought people should be aware that this is artificial.
 

oldergamer

Member
It doesn't need to be overly dark outside and gets dark enough to require the flashlight in interiors or dungeons.

Last thing id want is visibility to go down outside and cause you to have to wait for more light to attack or see what's going on. Its a game, making things readable is more important, and a pretty silly complaint.
 
Kind of off topic but this thing is a Luminoth from Metroid Prime 2.

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Thought that was kinda funny. Hope the Campaign is good. It seems promising I just hope the open world nature of it doesn’t make it too repetitive.
 

Kev Kev

Member
I know this is dumb because it’s not the real game, but the weapon drills are really fucking stupid sometimes. Some of them are ridiculously hard, while others are so easy I got three stars without even trying on the first try. Who the hell balance this shit? 20k points to get two stars with the pistol, are you serious? I’m shooting nearly every bullet as fast as I can, hitting targets almost every shot, and I’m still 4K short 😂

so frustrating! being overly challenged in a video game is the dumbest shit to me. I want a mild or easy challenge, complete it maybe 2 or 3 tries, and then move the fuck on with my life lol. Anything I have to try 20+ times just isn’t worth it if we’re talking about a toy like video games
 
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after seeing MCC having a snow themed warthog on the menu screen for a while it made me was a heavy snow halo level....any snow areas confirmed?
 
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Helghan

Member
This game can't come soon enough. After watching all the campaign content that reviewers are allowed to release I'm pretty sure we're in for something special. I don't feel as if there are completely new gaming mechanics that we've never seen before, but they seem to be doing everything right for the campaign. They paid so much attention to small details, which makes it look extremely polished, and more vast than any Halo game before.
 

splattered

Member
Yeah that was a great interview... i've never paid too much attention to him as a personality but i agree, very likeable person. Glad he is on board and that he does stick around.
 
I just wish someone at 343 will recognize how xb1x owners of MCC can't play Halo CE or H2A campaigns in an acceptable, playable state for over a year now after the Reach update that introduced the worst stuttering I've seen in a game (stuttering that is constantly happening).

Literally left their customers who used to be able to run these campaigns well to fend for ourselves while ignoring people about this topic for over a year. I think if it will ever get recognized and fixed it will be because Staten is on board. Problem is his only focus I'm sure has been in righting the miserable ship that is 343's awful mismanagement and getting Infinite in good shape.

I can only hope that he hears about this issue otherwise I have no trust in 343 to give a shit or ever even acknowledge us. Bug reports and many Halo Waypoint threads have been devoted to this topic. There's also this bizarre little segment of Halo fanboy defenders on HaloWaypoint that want to act like "master chief collection is in a great place and that we're just being entitled". Entitled to what? A campaign that doesn't stutter and constantly wildly fluctuate framerate? If so yeah I'm entitled.

Again, it's NOT multiplayer where this happens its purely campaign on xb1x. I guess it's easy to ignore that playerbase since everyone has moved on to the Series s/x. Still, it's a 3 and a half year old console that used to run these games at dynamic 4k/60 and run them well doesn't deserve to get their version broken and then ignored. This is why I also don't trust MS still because how have the higher ups at MS not heard of this and stepped in. How embarrassing for the original Halo games to be this broken.
 

STARSBarry

Gold Member
I will not be suprised if this turns out to be a pretty average experience for a campaign...

It seems like very specific types of people have been targeted with early copies. I guess I'm getting tired or the hype machine especially post cyberpunk.

However I will take that over what 343 has offered prior to this, which in general was pretty appualing.
 
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clarky

Gold Member
I will not be suprised if this turns out to be a pretty average experience for a campaign...

It seems like very specific types of people have been targeted with early copies. I guess I'm getting tired or the hype machine especially post cyberpunk.

However I will take that over what 343 has offered prior to this, which in general was pretty appualing.
They sent copies to reviewers( ACG, skill up etc) and halo content creators. Who did you expect them to send them to? World of Warcraft players?


Edit: both skill ups and ACG preview( the only 2 I've watched) highlight some concerns as well as good stuff, I don't see why your being negative.
 
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STARSBarry

Gold Member
They sent copies to reviewers( ACG, skill up etc) and halo content creators. Who did you expect them to send them to? World of Warcraft players?


Edit: both skill ups and ACG preview( the only 2 I've watched) highlights some concerns as well as good stuff, I don't see why your being negative.

Mainly a gmanlives kinda guy, and I'm tapering my expectations because the multiplayer release while having solid gunplay (although some wwapons in an already limited sandbox are useless) highlighted a fair few issues and 343's running track record of game released.

This is like asking why I would not be feeling particularly pumped for the new call of duty after a bunch of hype videos... its called "being here before"
 
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clarky

Gold Member
Mainly a gmanlives kinda guy, and I'm tapering my expectations because the multiplayer release while having solid gunplay (although some wwapons in an already limited sandbox are useless) highlighted a fair few issues and 343's running track record of game released.

This is like asking why I would not be feeling particularly pumped for the new call of duty after a bunch of hype videos... its called "being here before"
Not following you here, you original post seemed to imply you were being cautious due to MS only sending out preview copies to specific people to garner overly positive hype, not saying this doesn't happen and fair enough, but the likes of ACG and Skill up amongst others I find to be very objective. Seem like a broad spectrum of the press/creators have been included in the previews and that's a positive in my book. I don't think they are hiding anything, guess we'll find out soon enough.
 
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RAIDEN1

Member
Lets just get this straight....as with anything you aren't going to please everyone, and you can see it this time next week there will be some that will say: ..."Is THIS what Halo has come to???" etc, etc...
 

SafeOrAlone

Banned
I am looking forward to what I think will be a great experience, but I'm not convinced they turned the open world into something that truly expands from previous campaigns. It seems there is little reason to do secondary objectives or explore, so what is the open-world really offering besides long distances between objectives?

I think there are some great new mechanics, as evidenced in multiplayer, and I'm sure the campaign will be awesome, but I'm not understanding what the open-world brings to the table.

What I would like is to be proven wrong, by some footage of a Banshee chasing us halfway across the map, or a boss battle that consists of us driving anywhere across the vast map, in our jeep, desperately trying to survive a special boss-type chopper enemy or something. Something that takes advantage of the huge world they are showing us.

Maybe it's there and I've missed it. Or maybe they're keeping it hidden for now. I just feel like I haven't seen that yet.
 

Kev Kev

Member
Ok here’s what you do…

custom game
Slayer ffa
Fragmentation
Rocket launchers and swords
No grenades
Infinite ammo
Bottomless clip
No other weapon or vehicle pick up/spawn
Max speed
Max jump height
you vs 8 bots
CHAOS

Play with different maps, weapon starts, movement options, etc. go nuts. This shit is endless fun
 
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Kev Kev

Member
I just reached level 14 and I have no idea what means lol

In actual important news, the vehicles in this game are fucking amazing!!!! Sometimes I get in a groove on the gungoose, banshee, or the wasp, and I become a fucking terror. I love it.

I hope they never nerf the vehicles in this game
 
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