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[ViewtifulJC]

You like to show off your Halo rank to your friends? How old are you? haha

You tellin' me you don't compare dicks with your friends?

I mean, what else is there to do at circlejerks when the work is done?

 

[daedalius]

FUD Ep5 was amazing.

Watching it in a tiny youtube box won't compare to my bigscreen though.

 

[BackdoorBeauty]

You like to show off your Halo rank to your friends? How old are you? haha

So people with montages and such are childish by your logic.

 

[DesertFox]

Do you see what I see?

Anyone going to piece together the symbol for the terminal thing?
If you don't get what i'm talking about, scan around the image. There are bits all over the place. First one i noticed was over the lava, bottom left. another one above that, one infront of the player towards the top, one a little down and to the right of that....

I'm bad at photoshop, so i reallllllly don't want to do it

Oh wow - didn't see the symbol at first. By the way... Is there a place I can find all of the symbols compiled?

 

[Project]

I begrudge no one their ranks, and I'm glad to hear that 343i is considering substantial content and feature updates post-launch.

I *do* find it hilarious that he said the only reason he wants to be good at the game is chasing a number on a screen.

I have a few questions for you then.
1. Are you even any good at the game or are you a casual who prefers campaign or something like Spartan Ops more?
2. Would you want to be good at something like lawn bowling? Theres virtually no recognition for that just like Halo Reach had no recognition for the good players unless you looked for it on places like MLG. In that case, be my guest and become a "sweet" lawn bowler, but I myself will have zero incentive to be good at that because there is basically no point. I like being recognized for being good. It makes me feel better.

 

[CyReN]

Never have I hated or loved something so much at this time, my gift to you everyone in this great community. I love you all.

http://www.halocouncil.com/

 

[Aggrotek]

I have a few questions for you then.
1. Are you even any good at the game or are you a casual who prefers campaign or something like Spartan Ops more?
2. Would you want to be good at something like lawn bowling? Theres virtually no recognition for that just like Halo Reach had no recognition for the good players unless you looked for it on places like MLG. In that case, be my guest and become a "sweet" lawn bowler, but I myself will have zero incentive to be good at that because there is basically no point. I like being recognized for being good. It makes me feel better.

You know what makes me feel recognized for being good? Being good.

 

[daedalius]

Never have I hated or loved something so much at this time, my gift to you everyone in this great community. I love you all.

http://www.halocouncil.com/

Holy shit Cyren.

You guys have outdone yourselves.

MLG Dallas starts today, right?

Tonight I think right? Will be nice to have playing while I am working on arts.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

I have a few questions for you then.
1. Are you even any good at the game or are you a casual who prefers campaign or something like Spartan Ops more?
2. Would you want to be good at something like lawn bowling? Theres virtually no recognition for that just like Halo Reach had no recognition for the good players unless you looked for it on places like MLG. In that case, be my guest and become a "sweet" lawn bowler, but I myself will have zero incentive to be good at that because there is basically no point. I like being recognized for being good. It makes me feel better.

Self esteem issues eh?

 

[ViewtifulJC]

MLG Dallas starts today, right?

Self esteem issues eh?

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[Zeouterlimits]

Never have I hated or loved something so much at this time, my gift to you everyone in this great community. I love you all.

http://www.halocouncil.com/

You know you've made it when you're blocked by Websense.

 

[Omni]

So people with montages and such are childish by your logic.

Not at all. Hell, I've taken quite a few videos in MM where I've done something crazy and have shown my mates the next day. Montages are no different... just on a larger scale.

My comment is based on the fact the he said that he likes to show off his Halo rank to his friends.

 

[Tawpgun]

Wow.

I thought FUD was gonna be a mediocre little tie in when I first heard about it.

But goddamn it was awesome.

 

[squidhands]

So I kind of struck out in terms of what I want to play in War Games. Since I'm doing my Campaign and Spartan Ops romps before touching War Games, I hope something is added around those lines. I really want a BTB objective playlist: Dominion, CTF, Extraction. Given 343 is doing one playlist per hopper, I'll settle for any one of those.

So, War Games after the first SpOps mission, or after the first week's worth of missions? How many missions a week, 5?

...a rotation where one month it's BTB Slayer, and the next month it's BTB Objective.

This is a really great idea. Keep it consolidated, keep it fresh.

 

[Akai__]

I'm so jaelous at the people, who are playing right now. I hope I get the game tommorow, because otherwise I will go and rent it.

 

[CyReN]

Holy shit Cyren.

You guys have outdone yourselves.



Tonight I think right? Will be nice to have playing while I am working on arts.

Yep, about 7 hours away.

You know you've made it when you're blocked by Websense.

 

[Project]

You know what makes me feel recognized for being good? Being good.

That doesn't really work for me man. Never would I want to be good at something where I couldn't show others that I am good. You can be a professional lawn bowler and feel great about yourself, but that would never work for me. Its just not in my personality.

You like to show off your Halo rank to your friends? How old are you? haha

I'm just a competitive person who likes to prove worth in front of others, which was probably derived when I was a kid because of how competitive I was in sports. There's no self esteem issues. I'm a pretty well rounded individual, I play video games against 3 of my best high school buddies who are all extremely competitive (and good) and that drives me to keep playing. That's the simplest way I can explain it to you. I love Halo but I've had some amazing times stemming from great competition in the game at the highest level. That was one of the main reason's I kept coming back to play.

 

[Poker Face]

Never have I hated or loved something so much at this time, my gift to you everyone in this great community. I love you all.

http://www.halocouncil.com/

Looks awesome, kudos to all the people who worked on it!

 

[Aggrotek]

That doesn't really work for me man. Never would I want to be good at something where I couldn't show others that I am good. You can be a professional lawn bowler and feel great about yourself, but that would never work for me. Its just not in my personality.



I'm just a competitive person who likes to prove worth in front of others. That's the simplest way I can explain it to you. I love Halo but I've had some amazing times stemming from great competition in the game at the highest level. That was one of the main reason's I kept coming back to play.

I bet you have your grade 8 art Most Improved plaque hanging in your room huh?

Skill recognizes skill. You seem to have an unexplained impulse to find affirmation. smh.

 

[Arnie]

Keep an eye on the webs.

Cheers Frank.

I'll keep my other eye on this essay. Need it finished by Tuesday, otherwise I'm figuratively fucked.

 

[too much eslim]

@Project you not the only one. The people that don't understand us just aren't competitive(at least a good amount of them not all) that is all. They don't care if their rank goes up or down nor if it is there or not. So they think everyone should be like them and play just for fun.

They don't realize for people like us we want ranks for incentive. I'll play and have fun, but why will I want to get better at the game if there is no way to show it. They just don't understand.

 

[Overdoziz]

Never have I hated or loved something so much at this time, my gift to you everyone in this great community. I love you all.

http://www.halocouncil.com/

Neat, especially the stream center looks really cool.
Will you be able to search for certain kinds of videos eventually in the video archive?

 

[neoism]

Awesome final episode!

:O fuck monday watching them all now...

 

[Stinkles]

That doesn't really work for me man. Never would I want to be good at something where I couldn't show others that I am good. You can be a professional lawn bowler and feel great about yourself, but that would never work for me. Its just not in my personality.



I'm just a competitive person who likes to prove worth in front of others, which was probably derived when I was a kid because of how competitive I was in sports. There's no self esteem issues. I'm a pretty well rounded individual, I play video games against 3 of my best high school buddies who are all extremely competitive (and good) and that drives me to keep playing. That's the simplest way I can explain it to you. I love Halo but I've had some amazing times stemming from great competition in the game at the highest level. That was one of the main reason's I kept coming back to play.

It's all a matter of perspective mang.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

@Project you not the only one. The people that don't understand us just aren't competitive that is all. They don't care if their rank goes up or down nor if it is there or not. So they think everyone should be like them and play just for fun.

They don't realize for people like us we want ranks for incentive. I'll play and have fun, but why will I want to get better at the game if there is no way to show it. They just don't understand.

You can get better without an arbitrary number.

We understand it all right, and we find it unnecessary. Would it be nice if there was a ranked playlist? Sure, but the loss of one isn't a deal breaker.

Edit: Holy shit at Frankie post.

 

[Aggrotek]

@Project you not the only one. The people that don't understand us just aren't competitive that is all. They don't care if their rank goes up or down nor if it is there or not. So they think everyone should be like them and play just for fun.

They don't realize for people like us we want ranks for incentive. I'll play and have fun, but why will I want to get better at the game if there is no way to show it. They just don't understand.

lol. Over-generalization. I am a competitive player, but having a visible number/symbol isn't even a foolproof way of showing skill. In H3 anyone could get a 50 if they had someone good enough carry them to the top. It meant nothing. Having the balls to out skill someone proves skill. I think that is far more gratifying than a pixel on a screen.


Edit: lol @ Frankie. So good.

 

[Project]

I bet you have your grade 8 art Most Improved plaque hanging in your room huh?

Skill recognizes skill. You seem to have an unexplained impulse to find affirmation. smh.

Funny you should say that, I actually got the Grade 8 art award if it makes you feel better

I agree, skill recognizes skill, but I think that is only to a certain extent. You're commenting from your point of view. All I am saying is that I like to achieve things that seem difficult. Put it this way, if 343 puts in a visible rank system that only I can see my rank, I will be completely content because I like knowing where I stand against the rest of the population. That is the bottom line.
Where do you stand against everyone else? - That is what I like knowing.

 

[Woorloog]

Most impressive.
FUD that is.

A bit too much slow mo, no Grunts but otherwise? Great.

Some oddities, like the Chief's armor is very different from the other Spartans'. Mark IV, right? Oddly different though, the other's resembled a lot more Mark V... I suppose baseline Mark IV is quite like Mark V...
Also, noticed one of the helmets is like Mark V ... Was there really Mark IV ? Or is this just a variant that is coincidentally so similar?

I just love the small details.

 

[Hypertrooper]

Incredible final episode. Everything was pretty neat and exciting. The only thing I have to complain is that FUD Lasky looks much older than his Halo 4 model.

 

[Gr1mLock]

lol. Over-generalization. I am a competitive player, but having a visible number/symbol isn't even a foolproof way of showing skill. In H3 anyone could get a 50 if they had someone good enough carry them to the top. It meant nothing. Having the balls to out skill someone proves skill. I think that is far more gratifying than a pixel on a screen.


Edit: lol @ Frankie. So good.

You take that back.

Spoiler

Its several pixels

 

[Transhuman]

I wouldn't mind a playlist that prohibits you from playing it for 24 hours if you lose. It would become a "how many games can you win in a day without losing" challenge. The playlist would always be lowly populated (1000's, 100's range) and it would get consistently harder as the day wears on, until it resets.

Pipe dreams.

 

[Beckx]

a casual who prefers campaign or something like Spartan Ops more?

a casual who prefers campaign

a casual

Single player is not synonymous with casual. highspeedhalo.net

 

[Stinkles]

Edit: Holy shit at Frankie post.

I thought about using the Suddoths.

 

[Omni]

Most impressive.
FUD that is.

A bit too much slow mo, no Grunts but otherwise? Great.

Some oddities, like the Chief's armor is very different from the other Spartans'. Mark IV, right? Oddly different though, the other's resembled a lot more Mark V... I suppose baseline Mark IV is quite like Mark V...
Also, noticed one of the helmets is like Mark V ... Was there really Mark IV ? Or is this just a variant that is coincidentally so similar?

I just love the small details.

I don't even know what's going on with the armour any more. It seems like every Spartan is wearing something completely different... Where's the consistency?

 

[Overdoziz]

For the millionth time; ranks make the game more fun for a lot of competitive players simply because it makes every game count. Imagine if every sports federations decided to abandon the idea of competitions and tournaments and just made everyone play friendly matches 100% of the time. That's Halo 4 right now. Yeah, friendly matches can still be fun, and sure you still want to win but the extra tension and spice that is there in competitive matches is missing. Like Shake Appeal; said some time ago; it's adds context. You want to win a match because you want to get that 45, if you lose you might drop down the 43. That is what makes it more interesting and engaging.

If you don't get that than I don't know what to tell you.

 

[Aggrotek]

I don't even know what's going on with the armour any more. It seems like every Spartan is wearing something completely different... Where's the consistency?

They have options to supplement their combat proficiency don't they?

 

[too much eslim]

You can get better without an arbitrary number.

We understand it all right, and we find it unnecessary. Would it be nice if there was a ranked playlist? Sure, but the loss of one isn't a deal breakerl.

Edit: Holy shit at Frankie post.

It really is. You guys just don't understand. Will I buy the game? Yup. Will I enjoy the game? Yup. Because the gameplay is way better than Reach I know I will play it more.

However if there were ranks I would want to improve more. I have a friend who clearly told me that she needed ranks. She said she know it is meaningless, but I need to feel like I am progressing. This is coming from a casual player and I would say she sucks at Halo. She plays COD now because Reach didn't have ranks. She just need to see a number.

Giving anecdotal evidence is pointless because it doesn't represent the whole, but I can imagine there are many casual players who feel the same way. Ranks only helps Halo it doesn't hurt it in the slightest by having it. It only makes things competitive.

 

[Woorloog]

I don't even know what's going on with the armour any more. It seems like every Spartan is wearing something completely different... Where's the consistency?

The Mjolnir Mark IV had 14 variants by 2531.
And the Mark IV had at least 3 "generations" before it was replaced by Mark V (which also has 2 "generations").

 

[AllIsOneIsNone]

For the millionth time; ranks make the game more fun for a lot of competitive players simply because it makes every game count. Imagine if every sports federations decided to abandon the idea of competitions and tournaments and just made everyone play friendly matches 100% of the time. That's Halo 4 right now. Yeah, friendly matches can still be fun, and sure you still want to win but the extra tension and spice that is there in competitive matches is missing. Like Shake Appeal; said some time ago; it's adds context. You want to win a match because you want to get that 45, if you lose you might drop down the 43. That is what makes it more interesting and engaging.

If you don't get that than I don't know what to tell you.

Yep. *obligatory post about at least Halo 5 will have it cause now COD has it*

 

[Aggrotek]

It really is. You guys just don't understand. Will I buy the game? Yup. Will I enjoy the game? Yup. Because the gameplay is way better than Reach I know I will play it more.

However if there were ranks I would want to improve more. I have a friend who clearly told me that she needed ranks. She said she know it is meaningless, but I need to feel like I am progressing. This is coming from a casual player and I would say she sucks at Halo. She plays COD now because Reach didn't have ranks. She just need to see a number.

Giving anecdotal evidence is pointless because it doesn't represent the whole, but I can imagine there are many casual players who feel the same way. Ranks only helps Halo it doesn't hurt it in the slightest by having it. It only makes things competitive.

Wait so it's a deal breaker but you are still buying the game?

 

[Omni]

They have options to supplement their combat proficiency don't they?

Of course, just seems to be a bit drastic, IMO. I don't have a problem with it, it's just something I noticed.

 

[Fuchsdh]

He said earlier he was working on getting a plain English list of fixes for the Day 1 patch. Would be nice to see 343 start a developers blog (even if it's just for patches and Title Updates) similar to how Battlefield 3 has long detailed explanations about upcoming patches, etc.

Or just have a blog post separate from the WU, because patch info has to hit immediately and not wait for everything else.

 

[Nirvana]

That doesn't really work for me man. Never would I want to be good at something where I couldn't show others that I am good. You can be a professional lawn bowler and feel great about yourself, but that would never work for me. Its just not in my personality.

Analysis:

"My father was a highly ranked lawn bowler for 25 years, all he ever wanted was to be recognised, acknowledged like the footballers he saw on the TV every night. One hot summer's afternoon on the day of the Bowlympics, at the tender age of 8, I went to watch my father play. He was amazing. The perfect angulation of his arm, that slick, calm release and that knowing eagle like eye following the ball, almost controlling it; carrying it to its destination. Each bowl was perfection and by the end of the day, nobody came close to his performance and he was the champion.

I still remember the stoic exuberance in his face as he was declared the winner, but more importantly, the grimace when he was told there would be no trophy. All of his work, 25 years of his life, wasted, tossed aside in one day and with it any hope he had for recognition.

The next day he was dead. He had gone to sleep that fateful night and died of heart failure - a broken heart. Not with a smile on his face, but that same grimace.

From that day forward I vowed to always get recognition for my work, that is how I live my life so my son never has to see that grimace on my face.

Also, motherfuck lawn bowls."

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

It really is. You guys just don't understand. Will I buy the game? Yup. Will I enjoy the game? Yup. Because the gameplay is way better than Reach I know I will play it more.

However if there were ranks I would want to improve more. I have a friend who clearly told me that she needed ranks. She said she know it is meaningless, but I need to feel like I am progressing. This is coming from a casual player and I would say she sucks at Halo. She plays COD now because Reach didn't have ranks. She just need to see a number.

Giving anecdotal evidence is pointless because it doesn't represent the whole, but I can imagine there are many casual players who feel the same way. Ranks only helps Halo it doesn't hurt it in the slightest by having it. It only makes things competitive.

"You guys just don't understand." Lol, yeah, you're on a whole other philosophical/intellectual level.

I have a friend that said if Halo 4 had ranks she wouldn't buy it. See? I can do that too.

Do you only play MP games with ranks? Because I've been playing games since the 80s, and most of those didn't have a ranking system. You know what you did when you wanted a "real" competitive game? You joined a tournament or an online ranking ladder like Gamebattles. That's still an option these days right? I mean I'm old as shit, so that stuff may be relics of the past.

This is a no shit statement, but yeah, ranks would have been cool if they had been kept, but they weren't and it's not a deal breaker. You can still get your competitive fill by utilizing outside factors.

Perhaps it's you that doesn't understand. Go get that MLG pay and that high status GB rank son.

 

[Arnie]

lHaving the balls to out skill someone proves skill.

This is where your argument falls down, as proved by sport.

Skill is all relative. If Barcelona go and beat Preston North End 18 nil, that's not a feat they'll be particularly proud of, even if they 'out skilled' their opponent. Similarly, extending the analogy into Halo, if I go 15-0 (or whatever arbitrary score is now associated with that figure) against Dax, it'd be less gratifying than doing a similar feat against say, Tashi.

Gratification and skill are a sliding scale dependant on various factors, the pixel on the screen connoting 'skill' isn't the rewarding part, it does however facilitate a greater reward for a vast number of players who'd like some unified way of identifying where a player sits in the current Halo community, especially in specific playlists.

For the record I agree that 1-50 isn't a perfect solution; it is, however, vastly superior to no solution at all. That appears the case, Frank's repeatedly implied something more, but until that appears in plain sight, rather than in coded notes I'll stick with my current argument.

I didn't like the Arena, but I respected Bungie for attempting it.

 

[too much eslim]

lol. Over-generalization. I am a competitive player, but having a visible number/symbol isn't even a foolproof way of showing skill. In H3 anyone could get a 50 if they had someone good enough carry them to the top. It meant nothing. Having the balls to out skill someone proves skill. I think that is far more gratifying than a pixel on a screen.


Edit: lol @ Frankie. So good.

Listen I know ranks meant nothing. I was destroying 50's before I became one. However my goal was to become one and that is the point. I wanted to achieve that and would not stop until I did. I would play game after game day after day until it happen.

Getting rid of it gets rid of my commitment. It needs to return because it was addicting. The fact Halo gameplay was fun made it easy for me to continue to get better.

 

[AllIsOneIsNone]

"You guys just don't understand." Lol, yeah, you're on a whole other philosophical/intellectual level.

I have a friend that said if Halo 4 had ranks she wouldn't buy it. See? I can do that too.

Do you only play MP games with ranks? Because I've been playing games since the 80s, and most of those didn't have a ranking system. You know what you did when you wanted a "real" competitive game? You joined a tournament or an online ranking ladder like Gamebattles. That's still an option these days right?

This is a no shit statement, but yeah, ranks would have been cool if they had been kept, but they weren't and it's not a deal breaker. You can still get your competitive fill by utilizing outside factors.

Perhaps it's you that doesn't understand. Go get that MLG pay and that high status GB rank son.

Brah, once you go ranks all the other shit stanks.

 

[too much eslim]

Wait so it's a deal breaker but you are still buying the game?

Meant to say that in the case for some people.

 

[Aggrotek]

This is where your argument falls down, as proved by sport.

Skill is all relative. If Barcelona go and beat Preston North End 18 nil, that's not a feat they'll be particularly proud of, even if they 'out skilled' their opponent. Similarly, extending the analogy into Halo, if I go 15-0 (or whatever arbitrary score is now associated with that figure) against Dax, it'd be less gratifying than doing a similar feat against say, Tashi.

Gratification and skill are a sliding scale dependant on various factors, the pixel on the screen connoting 'skill' isn't the rewarding part, it does however facilitate a greater reward for a vast number of players who'd like some unified way of identifying where a player sits in the current Halo community, especially in specific playlists.

For the record I agree that 1-50 isn't a perfect solution; it is, however, vastly superior to no solution at all. That appears the case, Frank's repeatedly implied something more, but until that appears in plain sight, rather than in coded notes I'll stick with my current argument.

I didn't like the Arena, but I respected Bungie for attempting it.

But you know the inherent skill of Tashi because he is good, not because of his rank. It's all arbitrary anyways. I'm not saying I don't want ranks, just that I don't give a shit if they are in or not. lol

 

[MaDGaMEZ]

For the millionth time; ranks make the game more fun for a lot of competitive players simply because it makes every game count. Imagine if every sports federations decided to abandon the idea of competitions and tournaments and just made everyone play friendly matches 100% of the time. That's Halo 4 right now. Yeah, friendly matches can still be fun, and sure you still want to win but the extra tension and spice that is there in competitive matches is missing. Like Shake Appeal; said some time ago; it's adds context. You want to win a match because you want to get that 45, if you lose you might drop down the 43. That is what makes it more interesting and engaging.

If you don't get that than I don't know what to tell you.

Well said