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[Devolution]

yeah but that's more on the "cheating" end of the spectrum imo, whereas in launch Arena, for months, the optimal strategy was to sometimes sabotage your own team lol

True. I see a lot of shit about playing as a team, making it harder to succeed as an individual but then they make games about all these rewards and carrots on a stick. And when it comes to winning being the biggest motivator to level up it seems like it's an after thought. Well people want to do that anyway don't they? Not when you basically make it secondary to other things. The player base in a lot of these games just want to acquire stuff, get their achievements and fuck off.

Should be an hour ban for quitting. No exceptions. Shitty connection? You're shitty connection makes the game worse for others gtfo. Emergency? Go deal with the emergency.

Should be a loss in credits that way they can make up for drops. Banning just seems like it never works right.


edit: Ricken your link exemplifies why I stay the hell in here.

 

[Syphon Filter]

Played a game of Reach. Dear god...

It's so easy to hate on Halo 4's negatives and forget how much of an improvement it is over that monstrosity.

reach is better.

 

[Plywood]

reach is better.

 

[DeadNames]

reach is better.

You can't be serious.

 

[kittens]

I don't enjoy Halo 4 much more than Reach... :-(

 

[Tunavi]

RIP

 

[TheOddOne]

reach is better.

 

[Karl2177]

You search the person you want to compare on the right. It's max 2 menus deep.

It took me 20 minutes to find it. On bungie.net there was a simple "Compare to" right in the profile.

 

[Deadly Cyclone]

reach is better.

The one thing 90% of HaloGaf will agree on is that Reach is not better.

 

[Plywood]

RIP

RIP Plywood 1990-2012

 

[J10]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=44243592&postcount=11313

Wanting Halo 4 to be better means I have a tiny penis.

But my dick is huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge tho.

 

[Syphon Filter]

You can't be serious.

100% serious.campaign and enemy design seems a lot more inspired and multiplayer is less of a clusterfuck.

 

[Deadly Cyclone]

100% serious.campaign and enemy design seems a lot more inspired and multiplayer is less of a clusterfuck.

 

[Plywood]

100% serious.campaign and enemy design seems a lot more inspired and multiplayer is less of a clusterfuck.

I said this shit would happen.

Ya'll didn't believe me.

 

[TheOddOne]

I said this shit would happen.

Ya'll didn't believe me.

But it is Syphon Filter, shit would be the same if the game was the greatest thing ever.

 

[Ken]

 

[orznge]

100% serious.campaign and enemy design seems a lot more inspired and multiplayer is less of a clusterfuck.

I too believe a game in which the designer's intent literally was to reduce the amount of certainty in what situations arise as a result of player choice is "less of a clusterfuck"

 

[Tunavi]

RIP Plywood 1990-2012

90 right here as well

I still don't understand how people don't think Halo 4 is the best halo campaign to date. it was incredible

 

[harmonize]

I said this shit would happen.

Ya'll didn't believe me.

This is just the fucking beginning.

I can guarantee without a reasonable doubt, that within a months time, somebody else on this exact page will decree that Reach is better than 4.

I have said it, it will be done.

 

[Gray Man]

http://www.ign.com/wikis/halo-4/Engineer I found this part of the listed quote from Ellis interesting...

You might get lucky and get a rocket launcher, and you might be fortunate enough to have that SPNKr drop a mere feet from your location. In the event something good is falling from the sky, the Engineer’s Drop Recon armor mod provides an advantage. “A couple extra seconds before everyone else sees the [drop] coming down, the Engineer is gonna get a heads-up,” Ellis says.

So... is this saying that its meant to be less competitive by design? Getting "lucky" just doesn't sound very fair for the other team who is really trying hard to win, and winning.

 

[Ken]

I still don't understand how people don't think Halo 4 is the best halo campaign to date. it was incredible

I don't know man. It made Ghaleon not want to do Halo OTs anymore so it must have been bad.

http://www.ign.com/wikis/halo-4/Engineer I found this part of the listed quote from Ellis interesting...

So... is this saying that its meant to be less competitive by design? Getting "lucky" just doesn't sound very fair for the other team who is really trying hard to win, and winning.

It's the random drops that make it balanced.

 

[orznge]

"We, over the course of a decade, literally could not come up with a single mechanic for team-based multiplayer gameplay other than having weapons spawn out of the sky into random locations and a wallhack with a cooldown."

 

[Reagan's BR]

Reach being the worst Halo is objective truth.

 

[orznge]

it probably looks ridiculous how I use the word "literally" every other word but to me, so much of what happens in Contemporary Game Design is beyond unbelievable I feel the need to make absolutely certain that I am speaking about reality

 

[Gray Man]

I don't know man. It made Ghaleon not want to do Halo OTs anymore so it must have been bad.



It's the random drops that make it balanced.

Don't get me wrong, the whole idea of weapon drops sounds good, but making them random just means they can't ever be balanced.

Today I ran out of ammo for both my DMR and Stormrifle. I LITERALLY had nothing left but my fists. I spent the next 3 min of the game trying to find ammo without dying. Its a HUGE problem.

 

[Syphon Filter]

although i prefer reach to H4,i am on Halo 3.

 

[Devolution]

"We, over the course of a decade, literally could not come up with a single mechanic for team-based multiplayer gameplay other than having weapons spawn out of the sky into random locations and a wallhack with a cooldown."

Halo 5: Guns that wallhack as well.

 

[User 73932]

Woah. What. That is some terrible design there.

Dear lord.

Elzar?

 

[Tawpgun]

So after playing some games tonight.

Boltshot needs to get the fuck out from loadouts. The thing is a headshot capable mauler. Ellis himself said 343 believes power weapons are anything that can kill you in one shot...

 

[J10]

90 right here as well

I still don't understand how people don't think Halo 4 is the best halo campaign to date. it was incredible

Halo 2 was my favorite campaign story wise, Halo 3 my favorite gameplay wise. I'd say this campaign lies somewhere in the middle there. It's very solid, enough that I've already played through it three times.

 

[Trey]

"We, over the course of a decade, literally could not come up with a single mechanic for team-based multiplayer gameplay other than having weapons spawn out of the sky into random locations and a wallhack with a cooldown."

Still fun.

 

[zap]

You search the person you want to compare on the right. It's max 2 menus deep.

It's not intuitive. Why should I bring up my friends list? That same symbol is on the Waypoint homepage, so I just assumed they had the same functionality.

Then you have to search, click their name, then click compare and it comes up in a tiny box on the far right of the screen.

Their UI design on everything is abysmal. Even you can't defend that, surely.

 

[orznge]

Don't get me wrong, the whole idea of weapon drops sounds good, but making them random just means they can't ever be balanced.

Today I ran out of ammo for both my DMR and Stormrifle. I LITERALLY had nothing left but my fists. I spent the next 3 min of the game trying to find ammo without dying. Its a HUGE problem.

adapt

 

[def sim]

Today I ran out of ammo for both my DMR and Stormrifle. I LITERALLY had nothing left but my fists. I spent the next 3 min of the game trying to find ammo without dying. Its a HUGE problem.

Being punished for doing too well is a silly thing, yeah. It's pretty much a requirement to have the ammo and firepower proficiency load out ready.

 

[Ken]

So after playing some games tonight.

Boltshot needs to get the fuck out from loadouts. The thing is a headshot capable mauler. Ellis himself said 343 believes power weapons are anything that can kill you in one shot...

If you're close enough to get one-shotted by Boltshot I think you're too close.

Being punished for doing too well is a silly thing, yeah. It's pretty much a requirement to have the ammo and firepower proficiency load out ready.

If you emptied your DMR killing people, you should be drowning in ammo.

 

[SatansReverence]

Hey slurpgaf. What fucking retarded excuse do you have for 343 removing good connection filters?

 

[sp3000]

Halo 2 MP >>>>>>>>>>>> Halo 1 >>> Halo 3 >>>>> Halo 4 >> Duke Nukem Forever > Halo Reach MP

 

[def sim]

If you're close enough to get one-shotted by Boltshot I think you're too close.



If you emptied your DMR killing people, you should be drowning in ammo.

Not in Ragnarok (all day).

 

[orznge]

Halo 5: Guns that wallhack as well.

guns that grow tiny legs and run away from the player

 

[Trey]

Don't get me wrong, the whole idea of weapon drops sounds good, but making them random just means they can't ever be balanced.

Today I ran out of ammo for both my DMR and Stormrifle. I LITERALLY had nothing left but my fists. I spent the next 3 min of the game trying to find ammo without dying. Its a HUGE problem.

That's happened to me on a few occasions. I usually hop in a vehicle or pick up some piddly weapon and go with that.

Now I make sure to pick up an enemy's weapon after is dispatch them. If I can afford to, of course.

 

[Tawpgun]

If you're close enough to get one-shotted by Boltshot I think you're too close.



If you emptied your DMR killing people, you should be drowning in ammo.

Dude was camping a lift with it. His own personal shotgun. You round the corner and BAM either you're dead or your shields are gone.

 

[Syphon Filter]

adapt

lol, gets me every time.

 

[TheOddOne]

Hey slurpgaf. What fucking retarded excuse do you have for 343 removing good connection filters?

Man, this is outright garbage. The fact that you chose to formulate your question like this is fucking stupid.

 

[Booshka]

Halo 5: Guns that wallhack as well.

Shadowrun's netcode + Teleport makes you think guns wallhack in that game, and there already is a wallhack ability lol. I still love its netcode for the shot registration and relative smoothness, but getting shot through a wall is pretty ridiculous and hard to get used to. I'll take it over people eating shots though, fuck that shit.

 

[Ken]

Not in Ragnarok (all day).

Stop playing BTB.

Dude was camping a lift with it. His own personal shotgun. You round the corner and BAM either you're dead or your shields are gone.

Don't go near that lift? Or grenade him out of it? If he's just going to camp that lift that's going to be one less person to worry about during team fights elsewhere on the map.

 

[Bregmann Roche]

4v5 the whole time was great... really.

Matchmaking is a mess right now and I have no patience for something as stupid as "both teams should start CTF with 5v5" not being the rule.

The moment they get evenly matched teams to start every game and update Slayer Pro with classic weapon spawns and non-instant player respawn, this game's MP will become my favorite in the series. I doubt they will do that because it's such an obvious set of tweaks and if 343 were ever going to put them in they would be in by now.

 

[LAUGHTREY]

If you're close enough to get one-shotted by Boltshot I think you're too close.



If you emptied your DMR killing people, you should be drowning in ammo.

Too bad they're all using ARs and light rifles and shit.

Matchmaking is a mess right now and I have no patience for something as stupid as "both teams should start CTF with 5v5" not being the rule.

The moment they get evenly matched teams to start every game and update Slayer Pro with classic weapon spawns and non-instant player respawn, this game's MP will become my favorite in the series. I doubt they will do that because it's such an obvious set of tweaks and if 343 were ever going to put them in they would be in by now.

I'm worried that because these are things they took out on purpose, they're not going back in.

 

[sp3000]

"We, over the course of a decade, literally could not come up with a single mechanic for team-based multiplayer gameplay other than having weapons spawn out of the sky into random locations and a wallhack with a cooldown."

Lol

 

[Ken]

Too bad they're all using ARs and light rifles and shit.

Pick up a light rifle then? He said his secondary was a Storm Rifle so I guess that's another problem.

 

[TheOddOne]

Lack of Frank and David in this thread is... questionable.