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Halo |OT15| Beta-tested, GAF approved
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Yeah, the only way publisher/developer listen to fans is when they see sales drop for games and DLC.
Either way I kind of expected that nothing good was going to come with Cliffy B. Leaving EPIC.
ElzarTheBam
Member
No1 curr.
Same. I think. Haven't really put much into the mod right now (honestly prefer to watch DaSquirrelsNuts on Youtube then to play it normally), but will probably try out the expansion on release to see how it has changed. Hopefully they do something about the crazy hacking.
ElzarTheBam
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The Henery
Member
TU, as it stands currently, is pretty underwhelming. You don't waste resources nerfing the Gauss Hog you simply remove it from MM. And it only affects one map in total... that garish and semi-servicable UI is staring back at you after every game of Halo 4 you play.
The fact that the active camo AA has required title update intervention for two seperate games in a row now tells you what a fundamentally unworkable feature it is for MM. You can only make token nerfs to it otherwise it becomes completely useless as a starting ability, at which point you might as well make it an on map pickup - which it should have been all along. Huge, huge mistake in bringing that back as an AA.
Still no flag option settings being added? No juggling? No auto-pickup disable? No flagnum toggle? No waypoint option?
Still no waypoint markers for your teammates which are off-screen?
Still no descoping option?
Still no sniper headshot medal, perfection medal et al?
I'm still hoping for back end fixes like the flag getting stuck in geometry and the flagnum/boltshot jamming when shot rapidly.
The weapon adjuster sounds interesting and I'm looking forward to finding out what it's capable of. If it's simply a Reach style 'download this gametype off a 343 fileshare, it's got a four shot BR on it' type deal then it's middling. Hopefully we can see aim assist levels altered (I'm looking at you Beam Rifle and DMR!) and scope reduction - 3x to 2x for the DMR (unlikely, I know). And didn't Fyre say the flag is considered a weapon by the engine? Maybe they can alter its properties with this weapon adjuster to make it behave like a normal weapon - hold B to pick up and no waypoint would be possible with that.
Majestic maps coming to team throwdown is good news. Glad they're ditching the convoluted and unnecessary Deluxe settings. Very disappointed at Haven's Extraction removal though; some of the closest and most intense games I've had in Halo 4 have been on that map/gametype combo. So many opportunities for last ditch comebacks. Extraction on Adrift sounds awful but I'll wait to see how it plays.
Nice screnshot spotlight in the bulletin this week btw.
The fact that the active camo AA has required title update intervention for two seperate games in a row now tells you what a fundamentally unworkable feature it is for MM. You can only make token nerfs to it otherwise it becomes completely useless as a starting ability, at which point you might as well make it an on map pickup - which it should have been all along. Huge, huge mistake in bringing that back as an AA.
Still no flag option settings being added? No juggling? No auto-pickup disable? No flagnum toggle? No waypoint option?
Still no waypoint markers for your teammates which are off-screen?
Still no descoping option?
Still no sniper headshot medal, perfection medal et al?
I'm still hoping for back end fixes like the flag getting stuck in geometry and the flagnum/boltshot jamming when shot rapidly.
The weapon adjuster sounds interesting and I'm looking forward to finding out what it's capable of. If it's simply a Reach style 'download this gametype off a 343 fileshare, it's got a four shot BR on it' type deal then it's middling. Hopefully we can see aim assist levels altered (I'm looking at you Beam Rifle and DMR!) and scope reduction - 3x to 2x for the DMR (unlikely, I know). And didn't Fyre say the flag is considered a weapon by the engine? Maybe they can alter its properties with this weapon adjuster to make it behave like a normal weapon - hold B to pick up and no waypoint would be possible with that.
Majestic maps coming to team throwdown is good news. Glad they're ditching the convoluted and unnecessary Deluxe settings. Very disappointed at Haven's Extraction removal though; some of the closest and most intense games I've had in Halo 4 have been on that map/gametype combo. So many opportunities for last ditch comebacks. Extraction on Adrift sounds awful but I'll wait to see how it plays.
Nice screnshot spotlight in the bulletin this week btw.
To be fair, what haven't people complained about?
Silly.Mikey
Banned
Ya im underwhelmed too. 2 of the things i was looking forward too, the Xs and more customization options, should have been there at launch! By the time this game is where they intended it to be, we'll be on next gen.
king picollo
Member
Build those tracks in forge and Halo can milk at the teets of greatness.
Impossible for me, I get way to frustrated at those games on the tougher tracks. Great games though.
TU details are a bit underwhelming. Camo thing doesn't really seem like a nerf at all, doesn't really address the issue with it. Weapon balance on the fly is good news, but tbh I thought they could have done that already.
Red Xs back are a great thing though, can't wait to have it back. Although I wonder if the team mate shooting or getting shot at indicators are included.
Happy birthday joohas
PedroLumpy
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Any of you going to the PAX East panel on Halo 4 multiplayer?
BlueScrote
Member
Surely you mean hold the pitchforks pointed toward the guilty parties
I know almost nothing about FIFA, but it's 1v1, right? If so, that's probably a pretty big part of it. Starcraft 1v1s are really competitive once you're on the ladder because the game only has to find one other player who is super close to your MMR for you to have a good experience. Something like Halo, where it needs to find between four and fifteen more people to make a lobby is gonna have a lot of trouble doing so (in my experience Doubles is pretty decent about finding close games once you get enough games in for it to know how good you are, so that might be the lone exception).
I agree. I'd be pretty surprised if they didn't already have a bunch of balance changes lined up that they want to save for the panel (which I still hope is going to be streamed, but word from bsangel is that they don't know yet). I hope it's significant. If they put in enough knobs for them to do a H2 1.1 style sweeping change then that's what I'd love to see.
That isn't to say that the list doesn't seem to be kinda short given the high expectations surrounding it, but I don't think we've heard quite everything in store yet. Who knows, maybe there's a descope toggle in there somewhere. Of course, even if they rebalance it all, they have a serious gametype problem on their hands that they need to be addressing.
Poker Face
Member
Yea I am. I think everyone going to pax from halogaf is going to the panel
I think 1 v 1 is the most popular but you can do multiple people. Not sure what the limit is locally off the top of my head, but online you can literally have a real player playing one position, so like 11 vs 11.
Yo dawg! I heard you like title updates so with this title update we included the ability to have an infinite amount of title updates going forward.
SO bringing this up again.
I know this will be hard speculation and I'm reaching but what is if they show off their weapon modifier with a video where they show all weapons altered to Halo 2 settings or anything like this.
Because just a classic playlist won't work....
And before 343 does the same mistake again.. PLEASE do not have even more different settings in MM.. remove the old one.
Reach really suffered because in the end it had 4 different game settings - Vanilla, TU, MLG and Anniversary
I know this will be hard speculation and I'm reaching but what is if they show off their weapon modifier with a video where they show all weapons altered to Halo 2 settings or anything like this.
Because just a classic playlist won't work....
And before 343 does the same mistake again.. PLEASE do not have even more different settings in MM.. remove the old one.
Reach really suffered because in the end it had 4 different game settings - Vanilla, TU, MLG and Anniversary
squidhands
Member
More like a chainsaw, amirite?
Anyway, looking forward to hearing more about the TU. Had some extremely unfun games of CTF last night; Was about to score a flag when an enemy came racing up to me with a hammer and ended up preventing anyone from capturing it. We lost the match, too.
Fuck you, Infinity CTF. Seriously.
squidhands
Member
Happy birthday, steely.
Also, everyone who's not watching Justified is missing out on some incredible television. Do yourselves a favor and watch it.
Also, everyone who's not watching Justified is missing out on some incredible television. Do yourselves a favor and watch it.
Great show, I have yet to watch the new season though. As soon as I finish up with Oz I have to catch up on Justified and Spartacus.
Was so sad they removed it from Hulu after the second season. Ill have to catch up one day.
This... had to be added? lol
If I went to PAX I'd put this on a giant sign and wave it at 343.
Speedy Blue Dude
Banned
This is their biggest problem right now as far as software goes, they rely and end up hurting a franchise doing this.
Forza Horizon (amazing game) already bomba'd, seems like Gears of War Judgment bomba'd, Halo 4 is a semi-bomba, yes it sold millions, but the damage MS and 343 did to the franchise is huge. The Halo fanbase is probably done with Halo now, so Halo 5 probably won't sell as much.
Microsoft needs to make some new IPs instead of relying on Gears, Halo, Fable, and Forza.
SaveUsDestiny?
Bogey On My Six
Banned
Back by popular demand, options. Bravo.
User 73706
Banned
Given that Halo 4 is Halo 2 + Halo Reach through and through, I'm expecting TU2 to be Halo 2 1.1 all over again, but stuck behind a paywall. Or a paymoat, if they stick to Castle.
Reagan's BR
Banned
They can remove sprint via Megalo, which is how they can change weapon settings.
I highly doubt they will actually get rid of it. Why won't they just admit that sprint and loadouts do not belong in Halo? I'm tired of playing fiesta. I want predictability back in Halo.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
You leave sprint alone. You can take out loadouts, AAs, and global ordinance, but I refuse to walk around maps again dammit.
squidhands
Member
It's either coming soon to Amazon instant or is already there. I've been trying to get friends to watch this show, but they won't because it's not on Netflix. :-|
I hope some quality questions are asked at the PAX panel this weekend. The one that thehenery brought up a few days ago is a must.
It will never go away, but I would love to see it gone like all the other AA's. Nothing more frustrating than putting shots on a guy only to have him sprint around a corner.
Yeaaap. Going back to previous games feels sooooooo slow after having sprint. Don't really want to go back to that
User 73706
Banned
I'd be happy if they have us Quake 3 levels of movement speed, but somehow managed to keep track of the right stick sensitivity so that genuinely "walking" gives you a Halo 3-style animation while running into battle or whatever gives you a Sprint animation (but without lowering your weapon to become unusable).
I just realized that ODST, Reach, and 4's gameplay had been coddling to the lower players... but games where you play as Spartan IIs don't have as significant changes. Hmmmmm.
The Henery
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And the thing is, if they're going to dedicate so many resources to BTB maps then they have to make some key, brave changes in order for BTB to become playable for the average Halo player again.
If they can't reduce the scope to 2x then the DMR has to become a map pick up only and players spawn with the BR.
If they have to keep infinity then the personal ordnance has to be dilited so it's only SAW's, sticky dets, scatter shots and needlers that are available; rocket and sniper based weapons are on map pick ups only, on 3 minute timers.
And the Plasma Pistol has to be banned from loadouts for BTB to become playable again for the average Halo player. Plasma Pistol on spawn is quite possibly one of the most numbskulled, brain dead, utterly idiotic decisions in the history of the franchise. People called it out on the internet the second it was announced. It didn't make sense on paper and it doesn't make sense in practise.
Why would anybody use rock (a vehicle) when everybody already has paper (Plasma Pistol)?
If they can't reduce the scope to 2x then the DMR has to become a map pick up only and players spawn with the BR.
If they have to keep infinity then the personal ordnance has to be dilited so it's only SAW's, sticky dets, scatter shots and needlers that are available; rocket and sniper based weapons are on map pick ups only, on 3 minute timers.
And the Plasma Pistol has to be banned from loadouts for BTB to become playable again for the average Halo player. Plasma Pistol on spawn is quite possibly one of the most numbskulled, brain dead, utterly idiotic decisions in the history of the franchise. People called it out on the internet the second it was announced. It didn't make sense on paper and it doesn't make sense in practise.
Why would anybody use rock (a vehicle) when everybody already has paper (Plasma Pistol)?
ElzarTheBam
Member
I love you Louis.
Not having the awful two hit melee kills that have plagued Halo for almost six years would be a nice start.
The Henery
Member
Um, this is awkward with Oddone looming above you there