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[Omni]

Uh, Halo 4 has some amazing skyboxes too...

Not really. Pretty much all of them are horribly compressed .jpgs that are jarring to look at (That one level in campaign where you fly the Pelican is nice though). Multiplayer skyboxes are even more awful

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I think they were getting better with each DLC, but still a huge step back from Reach.

 

[FyreWulff]

Microsoft owns the Halo IP. I somehow doubt that Bungie would take on a PC port of the franchise they just sold to work on a new IP.

It would almost definitely be outsourced.

Bungie isn't going to take on porting their previous games past their retail prime while also handling 360, PS3, Xbone, and PS4 versions of Destiny.

Better to hire some russians and texans to do the work, then delete all 3 companies logos from the game's startup sequence

 

[Tawpgun]

I just figured it was some alien cloud formation. I like the color and majority of he skybox in that level. Feels bright and cheery.



Uh, Halo 4 has some amazing skyboxes too...

Not even on the same level. In their defense it's hard to top bungle skyboxes.

Ark cloud looks better than vertigo cloud.

 

[Deadly Cyclone]

There is some good stuff in there. Bungie has always done amazing skybox work, but 343's first shot isn't bad.

Not quite Bungie's level, but I still enjoyed most of them especially in single player.

 

[Gui_PT]

That thing is a cloud? I thought it was a gigantic alien mushroom!

 

[User 73706]

Whaa? It looks good, just don't zoom in too far.

"My 0/10 girlfriend is hot, just don't look at her for more than 5 seconds at a time"

 

[Deadly Cyclone]

"My 0/10 girlfriend is hot, just don't look at her for more than 5 seconds at a time"

How would this work, if I look at her at all and see she is hot she is hot. Unless it's like 1 second and I'm drunk. Chances are she'd be hotter then.

 

[NobleGundam]

How would this work, if I look at her at all and see she is hot she is hot. Unless it's like 1 second and I'm drunk. Chances are she'd be hotter then.

We were all drunk from the start (except BigShow, Kylej (caved), xxjuicesxx (caved), and Devo.)

 

[Demoncarnotaur]

Whaa? It looks good, just don't zoom in too far.

The composition doesn't look very natural, it looks kinda layered and unfinished. Not awful, but not great.

 

[Fuchsdh]

The composition doesn't look very natural, it looks kinda layered and unfinished. Not awful, but not great.

Well, that's probably because it is layered--they have to do all the distance fog yadda yadda effects beforehand since they aren't true 3D, thus it doesn't look as good.

 

[Nowise10]

The funny thing about this skybox is that it is actually just a small bubble that ingolfs that small area . You can move and if you look up at it you can see you move along with it. If you skip its deloading zone you can go outside by the cliffs and it will still be phased their.

as such:

Ragnaroks skybox is like this too. If you move and look at the sky you can clearly see its just a small bubble around the map.

And don't even get me started on the "space" skybox 343 attempted to pull off in the final mission of the game.

 

[NobleGundam]

The funny thing about this skybox is that it is actually just a small bubble that ingolfs that small area . You can move and if you look up at it you can see you move along with it. If you skip its deloading zone you can go outside by the cliffs and it will still be phased their.

Ragnaroks skybox is like this too. If you move and look at the sky you can clearly see its just a small bubble around the map.

And don't even get me started on the "space" skybox 343 attempted to pull off in the final mission of the game.

Lol dat wallpaper

 

[xxjuicesxx]

Well I mean sacrifices had to be made to get the game to run at a blistering 22 fps.

 

[FyreWulff]

Yeah, the major annoyance with flat skyboxes for me is the lack of parallax and the distortion.

Really obvious from that Harvest pre-release walkthrough a while back, they drive from one end of the map to the other but nothing in the skybox moves.

Long Night of Solace space skybox vs H4's space skybox is the most direct comparison to make. One makes you feel like you're near a planet. The other feels like you're flying towards earth.jpg

 

[DeadNames]

Since were on the topic of Skyboxes, obligatory Standoff post.

Seriously, that map has my favorite skybox of any Halo map ever. The huge satellite dishes combined with an African sahara is just sweet.

Damn, I miss Halo 3. :/

 

[Nowise10]

Since were on the topic of Skyboxes, obligatory Standoff post.

Seriously, that map has my favorite skybox of any Halo map ever. The huge satellite dishes combined with an African sahara is just sweet.

Damn, I miss Halo 3. :/

They also had birds flying above the level you could shoot.
And you could see the trail of jets or some kind of plane flying in the sky everynow and then.

I miss when levels had ambiance and scenery and detail

 

[FyreWulff]

They also had birds flying above the level you could shoot.
And you could see the trail of jets or some kind of plane flying in the sky everynow and then.

I miss when levels had ambiance and scenery and detail

ICBMs.

Can't unsee Carneymoon every time I load up the map, though

 

[Nowise10]

ICBMs.

wat

 

[Gui_PT]

nvm

 

[daedalius]

They also had birds flying above the level you could shoot.
And you could see the trail of jets or some kind of plane flying in the sky everynow and then.

I miss when levels had ambiance and scenery and detail

This is so absurdly hyperbolic.

ALL BUNGIE LEVELS ARE GREAT ALL HALO 4 LEVELS ARE GARBO

 

[Tawpgun]

This is so absurdly hyperbolic.

ALL BUNGIE LEVELS ARE GREAT ALL HALO 4 LEVELS ARE GARBO

So nitpicky.

Obviously he feels he bungie did level skyboxes/ambience better.

Something id agree with.

 

[Defect]

ALL BUNGIE LEVELS ARE GREAT ALL HALO 4 LEVELS ARE GARBO

#TRUTHFACT

 

[daedalius]

So nitpicky.

Obviously he feels he bungie did level skyboxes/ambience better.

Something id agree with.

It is pretty easy to tell they pushed the hardware more towards shinier graphics rather than more interactive, ambient, open spaces.

Hopefully this will be rectified and we can have both on the new hardware.

 

[CyReN]

Ninja montage is out.

also who is going to pax?

 

[Syphon Filter]

He left Bungie several years ago, not sure what he's up to lately. Last I recall was a post from Urk saying he was spending a lot of time with family. Probably enjoying being out of the spotlight, I'd imagine.



1) I think that was Brian politely dancing around the question.

2) Since that interview Bungie signed a 10-year development deal for Destiny, which is their sole focus for now.

I think they were ready to be done with Halo; the folks that really loved it and wanted to make more went to 343.

Brian said in 10 years, lines up with the 10 year deal with Activision. Yea i am reaching ; )

 

[xxjuicesxx]

Short, but a good watch.

 

[Nowise10]

It is pretty easy to tell they pushed the hardware more towards shinier graphics rather than more interactive, ambient, open spaces.

Hopefully this will be rectified and we can have both on the new hardware.

I don't understand why people think with this mindset. Do you honestly think Halo 4 is at the absolute limits it cant add detail into a level?

That's a joke.

Also like to add CA has been adding some pretty nice scenery into levels, so they can keep that up and I'd be cool. Although they should add birds back.

 

[User 73706]

Protip to make halo fun:

-don't use 20 fuel rod cannon elites with shit AI
-use 2 or 3 fuel rod elites with a few lesser covvies with gud AI
-use extra model budget to make 3D skyboxes again instead of it looks fine if you don't scope in.jpg

hier wahurrurur

 

[Syphon Filter]

Is it true that the multiplayer director is not there anymore?

 

[Risen]

Ninja montage is out.

also who is going to pax?

Enjoyable watch for the editing's sake, and decent music... but the game play just didn't excite me. Waist high head shots and rail gun kills just don't light my fire.

 

[daedalius]

]I don't understand why people think with this mindset. Do you honestly think Halo 4 is at the absolute limits it cant add detail into a level?

That's a joke.[/B]

This is an excellent debate since neither of us have any clue about the resource limits the designers and programmers had to create within.

We should continue.

If they aren't at the limits of detail, what, do you think they are lazy? Is that your reasoning?

 

[Nowise10]

If they aren't at the limits of detail, what, do you think they are lazy? Is that your reasoning?

More then likely the fact is they don't think about when creating levels.

And you're right, I don't really know all that much about what they do or how much "space" is left, but I can tell you they can add detail into a level. I just don't understand why people think otherwise.

 

[GrizzNKev]

Don't worry guys the awesome skyboxes will be back soon:

 

[Tawpgun]

This is an excellent debate since neither of us have any clue about the resource limits the designers and programmers had to create within.

We should continue.

If they aren't at the limits of detail, what, do you think they are lazy? Is that your reasoning?

Not lazy but its crystal clear the game was rushed.

 

[GrizzNKev]

Not lazy but its crystal clear the game was rushed.

I still can't fathom how Halo 5 will be better with a 2 year dev time if Halo 4 was rushed.

A great AAA game needs 3 years to cook.

 

[NobleGundam]

I still can't fathom how Halo 5 will be better with a 2 year dev time if Halo 4 was rushed.

Dat Outsourcing yo

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me neither

 

[User 73706]

Don't worry guys the awesome skyboxes will be back soon:

That's not a skybox though, apparently you can explore that whole area. Looks like skyboxes are staying dead.

rip destiny

 

[GrizzNKev]

That's not a skybox though, apparently you can explore that whole area. Looks like skyboxes are staying dead.

rip destiny

"You can now go in the skybox."

- Bungie, 2013

GOTYAY

Halo 3 Beta Valhalla all over again.

 

[kittens]

Ninja montage is out.

Stopped watching one minute into it cause of the stupid blinking effect. Why do people do that?

 

[Plywood]

That's not a skybox though, apparently you can explore that whole area. Looks like skyboxes are staying dead.

rip destiny

I'll believe it when I see it.

 

[kittens]

Oh yeah, and yesterday monsterfracas told me that 343 is cutting the Legendary Slayer playlist, opting instead to mix the gametype into the Infinity Slayer playlist? So that's Infinity Slayer, Slayer Pro, and now Legendary Slayer all in the same playlist...

It's like 343 learned nothing from Reach.

 

[Syphon Filter]

I still can't fathom how Halo 5 will be better with a 2 year dev time if Halo 4 was rushed.

A great AAA game needs 3 years to cook.

Maybe it's a spinoff with chief.

 

[J10]

I still can't fathom how Halo 5 will be better with a 2 year dev time if Halo 4 was rushed.

A great AAA game needs 3 years to cook.

Halo 5 will have had 4 years.

 

[Syphon Filter]

Halo 5 will have had 4 years.

How you figure?

 

[nillapuddin]

It really is. These "basketball courts" are fucking fun too.

They should really take Grifball, Ricochet,

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(not saying this because of my involvement)

Basketball, and some interesting Halo Ball stuff (dodgeball, etc)

and make some sort of Sports playlist.

 

[Syphon Filter]

Interesting, i did some research and apparently Halo 5 was indeed in development before Halo 4 released.

 

[Dongs Macabre]

Interesting, i did some research and apparently Halo 5 was indeed in development before Halo 4 released.

Oh dear, that doesn't bode well.

 

[Syphon Filter]

Oh dear, that doesn't bode well.

More dev time is good,what's wrong?

 

[User 73706]

I'll believe it when I see it.

I'm expecting Halo 2 meets Reach in the sense that we'll be getting broken promises about "open world" shit, but people will explore anyway by doing all sorts of cool community stuff to get out of the maps.

Interesting, i did some research and apparently Halo 5 was indeed in development before Halo 4 released.

Isn't that the case for almost every Halo title though? Even Bungie had ODST and whatnot in slight development predating Halo 3 going gold.

 

[Dongs Macabre]

More dev time is good,what's wrong?

Depends on how much they already did. If it's just the engine and stuff, then that's fine, but if they already started implementing stuff that people didn't like in Halo 4, they would either have to scrap them, or be lazy and just keep them in the game.