Yea I know. The podcast we do should be a really good one. Expecting it to be day after day of just gushing over the game.
I hope I get to play a ton of matches too so I can get a really good feel of the game. No honeymoon stuff.
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Halo |OT9| One Final Effort Is All That Remains
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Yea I know. The podcast we do should be a really good one. Expecting it to be day after day of just gushing over the game.
I hope I get to play a ton of matches too so I can get a really good feel of the game. No honeymoon stuff.
yep same for me, I can't even play Halo 3/Reach or Borderlands to get me really busy, I would prefer playing Halo 4.
The Ragnarok video looks good, strange things:
- Mantis can't be boarded
- The boost of the Banshee lasts really long
- Still think Jetpack and Camo will be annoying on that map
Shots fired.
Without knowing where the Sniper Rifle spawns, there's no real reason for players to enter the bases. You may spawn with a BR (or whatever long range rifle), may spawn with a Plasma Pistol, and there's (based off that War Games image) no Assault.
So, once again, it's about maintaining the vehicles (in this map, it's the Mantis and Banshee), and the center hill.
ThatsMytrunks
Member
So Ragnarok looks pretty identical flow-wise to Valhalla. I was hoping for more alterations to pathways, but I'll be happy to play in that gorge once again.
bobs...onGaf
Member
Even Halo 3 which I love feels dull in comparison with 4, happy wars and the medal of honour beta will distract me for a couple of days but such a long wait!
Where did you play btw? Where you at eurogamer?
No, it can be boarded and destroyed, but can't be hijacked (just like a Scorpion or Wraith). I assume the rationale for all three is their slow base speed.
And me.
Hmm. I can't remember if i read about space elevators before or after Halo 2. I reckon it was after, the concept is intriguing.
Good to finally know what the rings on the elevator do.
What? Can't hijack the Scorpion? Why can't we do that any longer?
EDIT, oh hijack, as in "board and hijack". You can still kill the driver, disembark and get in, right?
Hypertrooper
Member
Mantis can be boarded. At least you can board it like a Scorpion, Wraith tank, and plant a grenade. I did it.
Yes, was there on Thursday.
And I also played today 3 matches of Halo 3 and thought "Yeah that's not the same", I hope the month goes really quick and we can finally play it.
Ah yes thanks guys, got it wrong, this is good to know.
The Librarian
Banned
Yeah. I'm pretty sure the mancannons have been given a nerf. This is what I was worried about.
RIP Valhalla's mancannons. You brought so much joy to the map.
RIP Valhalla's mancannons. You brought so much joy to the map.
Genesis Knight
Member
Looks like the Mantis pilot is 100% invulnerable. Only way to take him down is to board and grenade/meleeing the Mantis itself or straight-up destroy the Mantis.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Also much pain. The side ones were fine, but that middle one went too high. The point of them was to get you into the action faster, not get you killed each time you used them.
We do have sprint now too, so you don't need them to push as far.
I'd cancel my pre-order if I were you
Orochinagis
Member
What about sprint and Hold the jump button for extra boost?
Zeouterlimits
Member
I'm with Dax on this. Not that the new ones don't suit Halo 4 (I'd hope), but that the old ones were great.
It's part of the risk/reward factor of the man cannons. It gets you into the action faster, but it is vulnerable. If you died everytime you went into the man cannon, you were going up against some skilled opponents(or were just stupid enough to go when they had center control).Also much pain. The side ones were fine, but that middle one went too high. The point of them was to get you into the action faster, not get you killed each time you used them.
We do have sprint now too, so you don't need them to push as far.
No shit he was a superior poster, he posted like 1000 posts a thread.
I still liked him though
The Librarian
Banned
Also much pain. The side ones were fine, but that middle one went too high. The point of them was to get you into the action faster, not get you killed each time you used them.
We do have sprint now too, so you don't need them to push as far.
The middle ones didn't go too high. Not to doubt anyone who brings up the point, but why is it that only now – after the mancannons have been given a nerf – that we're hearing people got killed a lot by using them? I don't remember hearing much about that during Halo 3's heyday. Getting killed while using the center mancannon was, at best, a rare occasion in my experience. And one of the main features of a mancannon is to expose you to an element of danger. I made a post about this a while ago as to why this is a good thing:
Mancannons in the same design as Reach's are boring, and no risk to using them is a part of the reason.
Still eager to try out Ragnarok, but I'm a bit disappointed.
Do you do anything OTHER than troll this thread these days?
My favorite thing in the WORLD/UNIVERSE/WHOLE OF EXISTENCE was to grab the splaser and just wait for folks to come out of the center man cannon.
Some people never learn.
Heckfu not trolling?
Some people never learn.
Heckfu not trolling?
NobleGundam
Banned
Thank you! I too remembered seeing one in the far distance of the trailerThere's one in the trailer.
SomeOneInaHat
Member
I'm just happy that players can be launched at that angle and speed without fall damage.
lybertyboy
Thinks the Evil Empire is just misunderstood.
The middle ones didn't go too high. Not to doubt anyone who brings up the point, but why is it that only now after the mancannons have been given a nerf that we're hearing people got killed a lot by using them? I don't remember hearing much about that during Halo 3's heyday. Getting killed while using the center mancannon was, at best, a rare occasion in my experience. And one of the main features of a mancannon is to expose you to an element of danger. I made a post about this a while ago as to why this is a good thing:
Mancannons in the same design as Reach's are boring, and no risk to using them is a part of the reason.
Still eager to try out Ragnarok, but I'm a bit disappointed.
Dun worry, if you really want to live out your fantasy of being sniped out of the air after using the mancannon there's always Forge.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
The middle ones didn't go too high. Not to doubt anyone who brings up the point, but why is it that only now after the mancannons have been given a nerf that we're hearing people got killed a lot by using them? I don't remember hearing much about that during Halo 3's heyday. Getting killed while using the center mancannon was, at best, a rare occasion in my experience. And one of the main features of a mancannon is to expose you to an element of danger. I made a post about this a while ago as to why this is a good thing:
Mancannons in the same design as Reach's are boring, and no risk to using them is a part of the reason.
Still eager to try out Ragnarok, but I'm a bit disappointed.
Actually in watching the video, how are they nerfed? From what I remember he is landing in very close to the exact same spot as Halo 3. I remember because I would always use the momentum when landing to propel myself across the river from the water base, and he just landed in the video very close to the same spot.
Yeah but I'm having a particularly shitty day at work and I guess it's showing.
Ill tone it down a notch.
Hypertrooper
Member
The water looks great but I am going to miss the physic fun. Next Halo, next Halo. I cannot wait.
At the end people should fear the Binary Rifle + Ammo combination...
I did not know which game you played but at the end the killing was a serious problem in my opinion. I haven't used the man cannon in most of the cases because it meant death to me. The opposite sniper just had to find the correct position and to time his shoots and would get tons of easy kills. Maybe it was not a problem for you or here at GAF but I remember some discussion about it at other sites.The middle ones didn't go too high. Not to doubt anyone who brings up the point, but why is it that only now – after the mancannons have been given a nerf – that we're hearing people got killed a lot by using them? I don't remember hearing much about that during Halo 3's heyday. Getting killed while using the center mancannon was, at best, a rare occasion in my experience. And one of the main features of a mancannon is to expose you to an element of danger. I made a post about this a while ago as to why this is a good thing:
Mancannons in the same design as Reach's are boring, and no risk to using them is a part of the reason.
Still eager to try out Ragnarok, but I'm a bit disappointed.
At the end people should fear the Binary Rifle + Ammo combination...
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Here's where he landed from the man cannon. As mentioned I always used the momentum to propel myself across that river. It looks very close to Halo 3. I could also see clearly into the other base while he was in mid air.
(Sorry for blurry pic, video is not clear)
(Sorry for blurry pic, video is not clear)
Jonsoncao
Banned
Hearing dubsteps and generic music without any choir in all those trailers worried me.
And they have stated so, so, so, so many times, in different places, that none of the music from the remix album will actually be featured in the game.
Der Flatulator
Member
Halo |OT10| Just one more final effort...
i didn't play H3 MP much, but when i did, it was usually BTB on Valhalla. very excited to see this.
which vid is that screen from?
is that supposed to be a "map" of requiem?
any ideas around what time i should expect FUD, haloGAF?
HiredN00bs
Member
Masterful post.Bonnie Ross said:
Here's where he landed from the man cannon. As mentioned I always used the momentum to propel myself across that river. It looks very close to Halo 3. I could also see clearly into the other base while he was in mid air.
(Sorry for blurry pic, video is not clear)
I was just going to ask about slide jumping. Will test out next week.
Also, I just wanted to say I am kind of shocked how faithful Ragnarock looks. The hills, rocks and sightlines seemed to be really on point. Bottom base looked a little bigger but that's nothing.
dangerbyrnes
Member
the best thing about Ragnarock are the.... rocks. seriously, the guy or guys that do the rocks for halo 4 are masterful.
also... is it just a coincidence that the carbine skin is grey and orange
also... is it just a coincidence that the carbine skin is grey and orange
Ragnarok Flames
Banned
waypoint isnt working for me. is there a link floating around of all the weapon renders?
Rickenslacker
Banned
Watching that Ragnarok walkthrough and hearing the comments about it I just know the Binary Rifle is going to be the AWP of Halo and will be just as divisive.
That seems to be the only big difference to the map physics that is apparent in the IGN video. Other than that change (and maybe the lower level of each base is taller?) it looks to be a near pixel perfect remake. Let's hope I get Shotty Snipers as my first game in Halo 4 on Ragnarok (was my first game in 3).
As someone who was just playing CS:GO, fuck that one hit sniper. That doesn't seem to have the nerfs like the Binary Rifle does. I actually can't wait to see what it's like to go up against one.
God there are so many subtle details to be discovered in this game. Like, how easy it is to no scope. Can I sweep snipe? How easy is it to snipe people in the back of the head?
nillapuddin
Member
Hey Beckx,
where are you pickin up the game?
I know you like Oceanic, and Im getting mine at Walmart which means Ill get the skin pack.
But Id much rather give it to someone who would really enjoy it
where are you pickin up the game?
I know you like Oceanic, and Im getting mine at Walmart which means Ill get the skin pack.
But Id much rather give it to someone who would really enjoy it
moot point if your also getting at walmart
The Librarian
Banned
Is Ghaleon not going to be available? I can do it if he's not.
Are you talking about in Halo 3 or Halo 4? If you're talking about Halo 3, I've already said I hardly found that to be a problem. Maybe it was because I'm not that great and I got matched up against average players, I dunno, but it wasn't a problem for me. *shrug* I liked that element of danger that came with it.
If you're talking about Halo 4, is that why the mancannons were changed? Because of additions like the binary rifle and such (as Hyper pointed out)? If that's the case, that's perfectly understandable. I'm just expressing my regret to see them altered because a good deal of the fun I got from Valhalla was the mancanons. It's my favorite map ever. I'm just worried about not liking the remake.
Height, not distance.