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Halo: Reach |OT7| What are They to Say Now?
- Thread starter The Librarian
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Good games tonight to all that were in the party. Wasn't playing very well, drinking and Halo are not a winning combination for me. A few things: Where the heck is Headlong Flag and Bomb? It's all Breakneck. And BTB Assault on maps with zero cover, like Hang 'em High, just don't work.
Zealot is actually a remake of Midship.
Also, this game is 0 fun, I don't know why I keep trying to play it periodically. I played like 3-4 different variants of Reach tonight, this game is like 6 games in 1!
Lol maybe by noobs. It's pretty much generally accepted by the MLG community that it is very very similar to Midship and in some ways is better. Better spawns, better flag running routes and map flow.
Honestly you're probably just playing it wrong :/
StalkerUKCG
Banned
One thing I got out of tonight's games - Evade on spartans is an abomination.
If in the future they make a combat roll of some sort, please don't allow it to launch you so far.
I also hate 100% bloom now that I've had 85% for so long, can't go back. I also love 120% speed anniversary settings, but the jump height is kinda shitty still; especially after playing some H3 today.
Arena isn't exactly on anyones agenda anymore.
Was it ever?
It had active updates and changes until the transition. Jeremiah was taking feedback and modifying it for each season. Then they went to the 3 month seasons, and then the transition occured, and it's been untouched since then.
Steelyuhas
Member
Wait what?
Sorry if my sarcasm meter broke, but you are being sarcastic right?
Zealot being a remake or even a spiritual successor of Midship was always a joke about the media outlets reporting that it was a remake when they revealed the map when it clearly wasn't. Like Fyre said, Zealot is much much closer to Desolation than Midship.
Good point. I can deal with it though. Still the best competitive games besides MLG.
Speaking of MLG when are the V7 settings coming out?
Pretty sure he's being honest. Zealot with MLG settings is good stuff.
KidA Seven
Member
Midship is the goat map.
No. Support the dying population.
I'm pretty sure I dislike the Anniversary BTB playlist.
Steelyuhas
Member
Are the settings that are going into the playlist tomorrow still considered v6? If so, probably not for a while, because the season is over, so they'll be doing plenty of testing and considering larger changes for next season in gametypes and maps (possibly including CEA maps), but they probably aren't going to be rushing out new settings for a bit.
I didn't mean it that Zealot wasn't a decent map, I just don't see Zealot as even remotely a spiritual successor to Midship. Their similarities are that they are purple, and that's pretty much it.
Personally, I also doubt that much of the MLG community thinks that it is better than Midship. Midship is pretty much considered the ultimate Halo map for the MLG's playstyle.
I like anniversary settings(as in, higher movement speed and no AAs) with the DMR and not the 3-shot pistol. Just feels too inconsistent, and I think 3sk is a bit too fast.
You'd probably like BTB better if we had more competitive games.
lol, obvious troll is obvious.
I think it's clear that the bulk of 343's efforts have gone into getting the Anniversary playlists out the door. I'm hoping they turn their attention more forcefully to the rest of matchmaking now.
xxjuicesxx
Member
I enjoy Anny what I like most is that noone knows how to play Halo anymore so its not hard to achieve win rates of 98.21428571428571%
Dogg..e..style.
Deputy Moonman
Member
Yeah, I've never thought of zealot as anything close to resembling midship other than that they're both purple and have that covenant ship look.
Shake Appeal
Member
I am not good and my win rate for Anniversary BTB is 95%. Squad is 86%. It is kind of weird how bad everyone is.
That was quite good, just wish it were in higher res'. Funtages are the best 'tages.
The Original Trilogy?
I'm hoping for 15 maps on disk, so four remakes would be great. Or a real map creator that can provide variety (Human/Covenant/Forerunner/??? architecture and colors).
We need a canyon BTB map otherwise it's not Halo (and for this, Valhalla > BG), and if we could have at least two of the following that made H2 competitive 4v4 so great: Lockout/Midship/Sanctuary, I'd would buy two copies on launch to LAN from day 1 haha
This is a great idea. Online pass for XBL, but only needing a single disk for LAN. Do the same for DLC. (can download on as many Xboxes as you want once you buy them once, though to play online you'll still need the online pass).
I had to click the link to remember Longshore, wow. Never saw the resemblance.
StalkerUKCG
Banned
I like the cut of your jib
Online pass?
For all the hate Activision gets, they haven't implemented it in MW3 which helps having a large(r) userbase.
Halo 4 will have a season pass for sure seeing what's happened with Gears 3 and Forza 4, that's good enough to please the developpers as they get the money upfront.
As far as I'm concerned I wouldn't mind if Halo gets on the premium road rather than just trying to get money back from used purchases.
It's a cheap tactic and it doesn't improve the experience in any way, thus I'd rather have ways to go a more premium way and i could even see myself pay so me and the community get a better experience.
For example : 343i makes wishlists for maps, armors, gametypes etc... and some users pay for it. Not everybody has to, but once enough money is in the bank, all the changes are deployed for the entire community.
I've bought maps that I can hardly play due to the community not having them all.
So let's not be a scrooge. I want stuff, I pay for it according to how much I'm ready to spend and maybe I get a freebie for contributing and I wait until enough like minded guys have done the same, then we ALL bathe in the glory of expansions for our favorite game.
So whatever the way, I'm fed up with map packs. I'm ok with it for Halo 4, but next-gen and halo 5 have to shake the status quo, or I'll be deflecting to MMOs and stuff that cater to a more dedicated userbase.
For all the hate Activision gets, they haven't implemented it in MW3 which helps having a large(r) userbase.
Halo 4 will have a season pass for sure seeing what's happened with Gears 3 and Forza 4, that's good enough to please the developpers as they get the money upfront.
As far as I'm concerned I wouldn't mind if Halo gets on the premium road rather than just trying to get money back from used purchases.
It's a cheap tactic and it doesn't improve the experience in any way, thus I'd rather have ways to go a more premium way and i could even see myself pay so me and the community get a better experience.
For example : 343i makes wishlists for maps, armors, gametypes etc... and some users pay for it. Not everybody has to, but once enough money is in the bank, all the changes are deployed for the entire community.
I've bought maps that I can hardly play due to the community not having them all.
So let's not be a scrooge. I want stuff, I pay for it according to how much I'm ready to spend and maybe I get a freebie for contributing and I wait until enough like minded guys have done the same, then we ALL bathe in the glory of expansions for our favorite game.
So whatever the way, I'm fed up with map packs. I'm ok with it for Halo 4, but next-gen and halo 5 have to shake the status quo, or I'll be deflecting to MMOs and stuff that cater to a more dedicated userbase.
StalkerUKCG
Banned
A season pass could work, Armour pack + Map pack. Single player scenario DLC are my dream.
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StalkerUKCG
Banned
Im intrested in this "Season Pass" phase i wonder if all these devs decided at the same time to have one or microsoft started to push this on the market. If its microsoft the current handeling is pretty good.
that's exactly what I consider to be premium stuff : missions unrelated to the main events in the new halo trilogy, but still canon.
I don't mind a lot of reused assets ala Halo CE corridors as long as I get a story oriented short sequence action to rinse my palette from excessive Firefight and MP.
No way in Hell they will include it the the same pass as the maps.
But new armors for protagonists in those stories could be made available in MP for those who purchased. there might be bitching but those who pay for side missions are paying to maintain Halo and getting the story forward. It may also help introduce new gameplay options dimmed to risky to implement with the Master Chief story.
Whatever they do 343i' Halo has to be Bungie's Halo +1.
I don't see having 15 maps on disk as the way to get to that. i's about getting the experience better, not about getting a fuck ton of maps and playlists and whatever so that until you find your niche you're stucked in the waiting room.
It's definitely Microsoft who's pushed it and implemented it. it requires a few handshakes on the server side and MS has analytics to show developpers on the attache ratios for DLC.
HiredN00bs
Member
I thought it was EA?
Season pass is not online pass.
One grants you a discount if you pay upfront for stuff not yet released, the other fucks you because your little brother wit no money offered you a used game and now you have to pay 15 bucks to play online with your friends.
The Antitype
Banned
Seriously. The only reason I put up with the 'Anniversary' gametypes is because I know I'll win and come out with a 2.0+ K/D, even if I hate the fucking modes.
I honestly think a lot of the people playing these modes never played Halo: CE, cause they all seem to run around with the AR instead of exploiting the almost-as-broken pistol.
Has 343i said when they're going to bring 85% bloom, bleed-through, revised armor lock and the other changes over to the other Reach playlists?
EDIT: I will never get used to separating Halo from Bungie. Never.
343 you mean?
Yes, in the December Playlist update, if I'm understand correctly.
Hydranockz
Member
I know that feel bro. I really cannot wait to see where Bungie takes us and I am eager to see what 343 does with Halo.
Ahh ok.
You will.
Also Bungie did good separating from Halo and MS, they have the competence to build something akin to Halo while getting ridden of the comatose structure of console MP, aka online pass+season pass+gametypes+TUs etc...
What's coming up is not necessarily about reinventing the wheel but making it move more precisely and faster.
If Bungie offers :
1/ faster updates to correct bugs and bad balance
2/ a large choice of environments to battle on
3/ and a sensible choice of gametypes
4/ customization options for a large set of game assets (armors, maps, weapons)
5/ story driven sequences in between major releases
6/ game analytics
7/ players hubs
8/ mobile applications
Then they will be on par or superior to what Halo can offer in 2/3 years.
In the meantime, 343i gets to do what Lucas never did with Star Wars : listen to the fan, respect the story canon, create consistent good games and offer expanded Universe stuff that matters. That's good enough to promote XBOX adoption over Playstation and should keep 343i alive for some time if it works. Time enough to fulfill all the dreams and ambitions they have fo Halo, maybe or maybe enough time to branch onto the next big thing if needed.
Your Daily Dose - Complete all the daily challenges for a given day - 20343cR
Today's challenges:
25 kills in muiltiplayer matchmaking - 2000cR
100 automatic weapon kills in campaign - 2500cR
Win 3 games in multiplayer matchmaking - 2900cR
Complete 5 games in multiplayer matchmaking - 2500cR
Today's challenges:
25 kills in muiltiplayer matchmaking - 2000cR
100 automatic weapon kills in campaign - 2500cR
Win 3 games in multiplayer matchmaking - 2900cR
Complete 5 games in multiplayer matchmaking - 2500cR
Tha Robbertster
Member
Well that's an easy 30.000 credits for today.
I'm hoping for one of those Firefight Thursdays where I can get all four in one game. Would be about 38,000 cR for that game. Still, I'll get it on Thursday with a game or two of FF Doubles.
Tha Robbertster
Member
Are they still doing those? I can remember someone on here or HBO saying that there was no more firefight thursday. I haven't been paying to much attention to the challanges lately, too much Skyrim for me
The Librarian
Banned
To this date, I have never played a single Arena game. That goes all the way back to the beta, too.
Speaking of remakes, I don't want to see any in Halo 4. Reach's map set is half remakes; at this point I'm sick of 'em. Spiritual successors? Maybe. Though I wouldn't mind, of course, a take on the "two bases in a boxed canyon" concept. But they gotta base it off Valhalla.
I'm playing some Reach MP right now if anyone wants to join. Trying to go after some cheevos.