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Halo: Reach |OT7| What are They to Say Now?
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ElzarTheBam
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wwm0nkey said:
Tbh I can't really ever think of a game other than halo 2 and bad company 2 ever having maps better than its predecessor.
ElRenoRaven
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Zeouterlimits
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TF2. Quake 3. And many others.ElzarTheBam said:
A27_StarWolf
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Wow, these Modern Warefare 3 reviews are making me sick to my stomach.
Even though Gamespot gave it an 8.5 (best thing it should get ever imo) they made some really good points about, this is the same thing, with a couple new modes and guns.
I'm certain that as time goes on, you will see the smaller websites reviews be more negative, because they don't have anything to lose, where these other places like IGN have to suck up to them...
I even got the chance to play it today.
There is NOTHING special about this game.
Even though Gamespot gave it an 8.5 (best thing it should get ever imo) they made some really good points about, this is the same thing, with a couple new modes and guns.
I'm certain that as time goes on, you will see the smaller websites reviews be more negative, because they don't have anything to lose, where these other places like IGN have to suck up to them...
I even got the chance to play it today.
There is NOTHING special about this game.
Rickenslacker
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I dunno man, a lot of QWTF's maps beat a lot of what I've played in TF2, and any map remade for TF2 was originally better.Zeouterlimits said:
Zeouterlimits
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Wow. These are actually pretty damn good. Wow. My heart leapt at the Halo 3 MP. It has been too long. SoGood.gif.PsychoRaven said:
Somewhat related : A random guy in college spotted the Spartan crest on my Jacket (that came with Reach) and complimented me, before saying it was a terrible sequel to a great series. He wandered off then. It was fairly odd.
Edit: Any idea what song the second last clip belongs to? Before the announcer talks about what's in the next episode?
*shrug* I'd be willing to concede TF2.Rickenslacker said:
The Real Napsta
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op_ivy said:
Maps are complete garbage, Reach maps look good in comparison.
The Real Napsta said:
thanks for your impressions, but i'll wait till the game has been out a bit longer and people learn the ins and outs a bit better. i have heard that they are less vertical, an issue i had with a lot of the MW2 maps, such as favela, so theres that.
Hitmonchan107
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I'm liking MW3 from the little I've played. There's more balance with the gunplay (weapon classes have a greater gap in accuracy, for example). The maps are the typical CoD affair. The Marksman perk is a little unfair. It shows enemies' names from farther away.op_ivy said:
I'm having fun. So let the haters hate. I shall sit on my couch and appreciate.
Steelyuhas
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Tashi0106 said:
Reviews are down a little bit, 90 on metacritic compared to 94 for both MW2 and MW1, but your point is very good. They don't play these games very much, play enough to review, seems fun, looks good, polish, etc, give it a good score, move on the to other games they need to be playing to preview, review, etc.
Hitmonchan107 said:
Wake me when you need me
to lead the squad to glorious victory in BF3.
A27_StarWolf
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Steelyuhas said:
hoorah.
Reagan's BR
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Still on the fence about it. As I posted in the MW3 OT:Hitmonchan107 said:
Awesome Barlow said:
Reagan's BR
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So I pre-ordered CEA...Tunavi said:
OdysseusVA
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Tha Robbertster
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Don't know why but that video made we hyped for Halo 4 :lolOdysseusVA said:
StalkerUKCG
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GT retrospective got me feeling pangs of nostalgia for Halo REACH!. The game i have now, i dont even how that works. Reminds me of all the fun times iv had in h2 h3 and reach. Quit your bitching stalkers its never all bad.
Barrow Roll
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Eurogamer has a pretty solid review up about it. Seems like a pretty robust package if you're not tired of the COD formula yet. Time will tell how the multiplayer metagame develops and the community will make it known if the maps suck. Hard to expect those 2 things to be covered in reviews.Steelyuhas said:
Blue Ninja
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I went into my local gamestore today. Got in line behind a bunch of kids with a MW3 box in hand. When they've paid for their games and it's my turn, I just tell the guy "I'm not here for Modern Warfare 3."A27_StarWolf said:
The man said "Hallelujah" a bit too loudly. :lol
Halo 3 after 3 months of release: 4.82m units in the US.
Halo Reach after 13 months of release: 4.75m units in the US.
Discuss.
Halo Reach after 13 months of release: 4.75m units in the US.
Discuss.
Slightly Live
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GhaleonEB said:
Hmm, you'd expect the install base between the release of 3 and Reach would have grown - which it did. But the Halo base between the two games appears to have shrunk.
I don't think it's shrunk by a significant amount - it's rather stagnant if anything. Considering the amount of quality rival titles, it's not too bad.
Are these numbers good? I think so, but I have no clue. How do other games compare across multiple titles on the 360?
I'd hate to be the person whose job it is to gleam real meaning from these numbers and make business decisions based on them.
GhaleonEB said:
Halo 3 didn't come out against 3 active multiplatform Call of Duties.
Note that those are multiplatform sales, and the top 3 games are multiplatform. Reach outsold New Super Mario Bros Wii during the same timeframe, if that chart is to be believed. And NSMB outsold Galaxy 3:1 or thereabouts, and Galaxy sold about 8-9 million, there seems to be data missing.
What am I missing:Lyphen said:
"A full list of the top-selling new retail titles in the U.S. from January 2010 through September 2011."
Reach came out in that window.
At any rate - they're still good sales by any but mega-blockbuster standards. But it's clear that Halo's appeal peaked at Halo 3 and receded a bit with Reach. Curious to see how Halo 4 fares with the Chief back and all.
GhaleonEB said:
i'm not sure that reach was seen as the "next" halo game after 3. will be interesting to see if 4 pulls huge numbers, or, as i'm beginning to think, interest in the halo brand is waning (sadly). people these days want fps where guns kill nearly instantly, everything levels, and are generally more accessible.
That will be a sad day.Just Dance 2 is only on Wii I believe. And the 360 version of Black Ops would probably be at least 8 million. Reach still did well, but I wonder if adding a number to it would have increased sales, or if general interest is not as high anymore.FyreWulff said:
Anyone know how much Halo 2 did in US? I think I remember something like 5.7 million, and that's on a much smaller userbase.
Also I think Reach hasn't done as well outside the US this time, compared to 3 and 2.
GhaleonEB said:
And I referenced them because it's impossible to look at sales numbers in a vacuum.
Galaxy 2 sold 3 million copies less than Galaxy 1, yet Galaxy 2 is considered by most critics as the superior game.
Is Mario on a decline, or did less people buy Galaxy 2 because the first Galaxy had the "first franchise game on the console" smell? Halo 3 also had the "sup, I'm the first 3D game of this franchise on your new console" going for it. You had a Halo game, ODST, come out just a year before Reach for full price, whereas 3 was the first new Halo title in 3 years.
The DLC scheduling also hasn't been that great to keep players engaged in the series since 3 came out. Call of Duty is constantly throwing map packs out at people and staying in the gaming public's eye. Halo releases a map pack or two early on and then takes forever to fart out new content until it's almost time for the next title to release.
That doesn't fit either, because there's no way Reach sold 4 million copies this year, after the holidays. For reference, Halo 3 had a larger debut and sold 127k in January 2008.Lyphen said:
Edit: that makes sense Mojo.
I edited that comment back out 10 minutes ago. I said "discuss", you were discussing. I disagree with your approach, but I've long since tuned out of sales age because such conversations can't ever go anywhere. (Which is why I redacted the response. Ten minutes ago.)FyreWulff said:
Steelyuhas
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GhaleonEB said:
Much much greater level of competition (including games that are just better than H3 and Reach), and Halo is not "the game" anymore, not even close.
Yeah, Call of Duty happened. Additionally, there hasn't been anything close to the level of marketing for a Halo title since 3. I imagine the latter will change with 4, but the competition has never been stronger. They'll have to pull out all the stops if they want to get casual folks to use Halo in their everyday vocabulary like Modern Warfare currently is.
GhaleonEB said:
I'm much more interested in popular opinion of the franchise post-Reach than # of units sold. Halo 3 was half-way decent so people had hope for Reach. After the abomination that is this game, I'm curious if the general public still has a desire to play Halo games, especially when their friends have probably moved to CoD and others. We'll see.