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Halo The Master Chief Collection |OT| Halo Never Died, It Was Just Missing In Action
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As far as I'm concerned, if 343i wants any shot whatsoever of regaining the trust and respect of the players who they've upset, they need to come forward with a sincere, straightforward, and honest apology.
No excuses, no shifted blame, just an absolutely honest apology that explains what happened and how such an unfinished, buggy, and broken game got released to the public. The existing faceless "apology" posted under the "Forum Team" account on the Waypoint message board simply doesn't cut it:
The achievements are a very small issue in the grand scheme, and it seems as if they were only mentioned with the intention of offloading some of the responsibility. It's a strange thing to mention specifically otherwise given the myriad of other (more pressing) issues.
While The Master Chief Collection certainly has a lot of content, its "large surface area" does not need to be brought up as a defense. This is a port of existing code, not new games from the ground up. That's not to say there isn't a lot of work involved, but the fact that there's multiple games included is not an excuse. Other multiple game collections have been done before, and they've been done better. None of the games in this bundle are without issue.
As for "issues surfaced at launch," this is probably the most frustrating part of the whole thing. No, issues did not "surface at launch." Issues that were already clearly there became viewable by the public. The game has had issues with crashes, bugs, and unexpected behavior at every event they've demoed it at. Tournaments with professional players have had games canceled and restarted due to crashing. Community questions and requests for media of the various games went unanswered.
Many of the issues in the game are deeply rooted and have nothing to do with the online component. These are all things which should have been clearly obvious during any QA test and exist offline. Things like poor frame rates on Halo 2 Anniversary maps, nearly unplayable Halo 4 split screen, crashes, freezes, save game data losses, audio problems, unaddressed bugs from old builds, missing and broken features, and so on. Many of the items listed in the bug tracker can not be blamed on the online aspects of the game, and many of the online-related issues should have been caught and fixed long ago. It is painfully, painfully clear that this collection did not receive the polish and quality assurance that production code should.
The situation is far past the stage of "launches are hard; things happen." There's a community who is upset and who has had their trust shaken. But I think there's also a lot of people who are willing to forgive, especially if a truly honest apology happens.
So please, 343 Industries: no red tape, no politics, no excuses. Just admit that the game is broken, shouldn't have shipped in its current state, and that there were issues with development and the schedule. Let the community know that you're truly sorry and that you're sincere about fixing the issues and making it up to everyone.
No excuses, no shifted blame, just an absolutely honest apology that explains what happened and how such an unfinished, buggy, and broken game got released to the public. The existing faceless "apology" posted under the "Forum Team" account on the Waypoint message board simply doesn't cut it:
The achievements are a very small issue in the grand scheme, and it seems as if they were only mentioned with the intention of offloading some of the responsibility. It's a strange thing to mention specifically otherwise given the myriad of other (more pressing) issues.
While The Master Chief Collection certainly has a lot of content, its "large surface area" does not need to be brought up as a defense. This is a port of existing code, not new games from the ground up. That's not to say there isn't a lot of work involved, but the fact that there's multiple games included is not an excuse. Other multiple game collections have been done before, and they've been done better. None of the games in this bundle are without issue.
As for "issues surfaced at launch," this is probably the most frustrating part of the whole thing. No, issues did not "surface at launch." Issues that were already clearly there became viewable by the public. The game has had issues with crashes, bugs, and unexpected behavior at every event they've demoed it at. Tournaments with professional players have had games canceled and restarted due to crashing. Community questions and requests for media of the various games went unanswered.
Many of the issues in the game are deeply rooted and have nothing to do with the online component. These are all things which should have been clearly obvious during any QA test and exist offline. Things like poor frame rates on Halo 2 Anniversary maps, nearly unplayable Halo 4 split screen, crashes, freezes, save game data losses, audio problems, unaddressed bugs from old builds, missing and broken features, and so on. Many of the items listed in the bug tracker can not be blamed on the online aspects of the game, and many of the online-related issues should have been caught and fixed long ago. It is painfully, painfully clear that this collection did not receive the polish and quality assurance that production code should.
The situation is far past the stage of "launches are hard; things happen." There's a community who is upset and who has had their trust shaken. But I think there's also a lot of people who are willing to forgive, especially if a truly honest apology happens.
So please, 343 Industries: no red tape, no politics, no excuses. Just admit that the game is broken, shouldn't have shipped in its current state, and that there were issues with development and the schedule. Let the community know that you're truly sorry and that you're sincere about fixing the issues and making it up to everyone.
The achievement issue was a general Xbox Live problem at the time as they are working correctly now.
Check your system...the original mix should not overwhelm the game sounds. There is an issue though of the anniversary menu leaving out parts of the original menus that are affecting play. For example no one can forge a grifball map on halo 3 right now because the options are missing.
I honestly don't need them to admit issues with development...there are always issues with development. I just need the game fixed quickly. If we are in for a battlefield 4 wait here...than forget it
Shit, playing with a team of 17-18s in big team battle put my whole group of friends in the top 50 world wide in that playlist.
Man I cannot wait for this shit to equalize to get back to what was in my opinion the most even and fair matchmaking I have had a chance to play.
Future PhaZe
Member
This would indidcate that they could turn on dedicated servers for custom's also...i will take that as part of the apology for all of this
Marvel
could never
Well that's good.
Because I am absolutely dying to play some Halo online, been too long.
Nice, I would've voted Halo 4 too.
got the Scarab gun! First time legit with the Banshee.
Banshee:
http://xboxclips.com/video.php?uid=... XBL&vid=cc4dd94a-83b2-4c8e-96a2-7080608dac73
Gun:
http://xboxclips.com/video.php?uid=... XBL&vid=6b44169c-316d-4eb3-a28a-ed565b5979c5
Soccer Ball:
http://xboxclips.com/video.php?uid=... XBL&vid=e0b91f4a-67bd-40f4-b3b1-50cb942b65a0
Banshee:
http://xboxclips.com/video.php?uid=... XBL&vid=cc4dd94a-83b2-4c8e-96a2-7080608dac73
Gun:
http://xboxclips.com/video.php?uid=... XBL&vid=6b44169c-316d-4eb3-a28a-ed565b5979c5
Soccer Ball:
http://xboxclips.com/video.php?uid=... XBL&vid=e0b91f4a-67bd-40f4-b3b1-50cb942b65a0
Play customs with Gaf we did 8v8s yeaterday was Sooooo Good
FaintColt388301
Member
Just figured out all this video stuff. I wish I knew before. I had some good stuff. Here a nice little snipe I had on Halo 2 CTF
Customs are the way to go. I've played about 40 matches thanks to customs. Gotta take things in to your own hands.
Customs are the way to go. I've played about 40 matches thanks to customs. Gotta take things in to your own hands.
Marvel
could never
Yeah man would like to get it on this tomorrow. For tonight I'll play SO for the first time to try and ease this pain lol.
The Strokes
Banned
So I got into the game and went to matchmaking, downloaded an update, went to search 2-3 min and BOOM a 4v4 match on Zenith! With no lag!
Hope we're getting into a turning point for the good here
Hope we're getting into a turning point for the good here
DudeWithNoName
Member
Wow, I'm glad to see Frankie jumping into that other thread. Yeah it sucks now, but really i am confident it'll be fine. Hopefully sooner rather than later.
Stevey
Member
Yeah, this was great in Halo 3
Future PhaZe
Member
they'll fix it eventually but the last time I saw a game launch with these levels of issues was BF4 and Gears 2, both which took...well, for those unfamiliar you won't be happy with how long it took
Awesome, the memories. Enticing that Banshee was a pain in the arse from what I remember.
What a gun, sounds hellish.
Jonneh3003
Banned
Anyone hosting a custom game? I'm tired of sailing around on the empty sea that is match making :'c
GringoSuave89
Banned
Okay, my copy of MCC took less than an hour to install. This means, in terms of karma, my hair is going to start falling out, right?
Any ideas on how to fix my "untracked build" error? (top left)
https://twitter.com/MrAdyCarter/status/532996223310266368
https://twitter.com/MrAdyCarter/status/532996223310266368
KnockOneOff
Banned
Imagine the cigarettes smoked in the last 48 hours at those offices!
Digital or disc
It's pretty clunky how unclear the menus in the Halo Channel and in-game are about watching Halo Nightfall. The game comes with a code card to redeem being able to watch them, which is fine, but neither the game nor the Halo Channel menus give this indication, they just say "buy the MCC to watch Nightfall." The Giantbomb guys had the same problem.
GringoSuave89
Banned
It was disc, so I know that has a lot to do with it, but I hear people say that the 50Gig patch took forever regardless. Or was that just people being impatient?
It's not fixable right now.
CloudyTuba
Member
I got that as well. I just had to start over.
everyday math
Banned
{digital}Took me over 10hrs to download to 69% the first time. That froze. Second time was about the same. So about an entire day in total.
Downloads seem to take forever across the board on Xbox one tho. PS4 I never have these issues.
So great, lol
Maybe I gone digital this gen. It took my 30-45 mins download the game. Everyone does say Xbox One has long install time
Computer
Member
What did he have to say?
Post 278 in the dedicated servers thread.
TheCanisDirus
Member
See one above you.
But i'm almost with you on the second part. It took BF months to get sorted... i'm hoping (but thinking it might) it doesn't go that way.
I don't want to give the impression that I'm saying "I don't care about multi, so it's not a problem", but I almost feel bad that my enjoyment of the series comes mostly from the campaign play. It's weird being basically unaffected by the problem.
That being said, anyone know one way or the other if there's LAN support?
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