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Halo The Master Chief Collection |OT| Halo Never Died, It Was Just Missing In Action

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leng jai

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Have they said anything about the framerate in Halo 4? It's ridiculously uneven, calling it 60fps is almost laughable. Pretty poor effort from a no thrills port of a last gen flagship title.
 

SparkTR

Member
Cross posting 'cause I'm a whore.

Halo 4 on Xbox 360:
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Halo 4 on Xbox One (30 second clip. Same puddle)


That's... a disappointment. It's essentially Halo 2 quality water with a slightly better shader now. Why would they have to downgrade anything? Makes me wonder what else they did. Lighting looks a bit more sterile, perhaps. Though that could just be the Xbone and its weird colour output. But then you still have stuff like this when things load in (30 second clip. Exactly as it happened) and frequent dips below what seem 30 in regular gameplay.

This whole game is a mess.

That reminds me of the Wii port of the Metroid Prime games, they were missing small effects like water ripples for some reason.
 

pieface

Member
Tried to play with a mate for a few hours last night, we tried for 3 hours and got about 3 games. Had to keep restarting the game cos the matchmaking just went a bit screwed and wouldn't let us join each others parties.

This game is a joke. My Halo buzz is wearing off.
 

MThanded

I Was There! Official L Receiver 2/12/2016
I started playing SP H2A last night, almost shed a tear at the main menu, its been a long time since I heard those monks, then at the campaign selection screen remastered music from each game is played based on what game campaign you viewing. Wonderful touch, you can tell this was made by people that love Halo. Nailed it.

To all those saying H2 IS SLOW and needs sprint. Please stop playing Halo (sorry to sound harsh) the movement is so refreshing, sprinting and rewarding peoples ADD should stay with COD etc. Leave Halo alone.
Condescending much.

Too bad 343 doesn't agree.
 

Overdoziz

Banned
Man, Halo 3 is so much more fun on Heroic than Halo 2. In Halo 2 it would often go "shoot through most of magazine and not kill that elite or brute, get hosed down with fire, recharge in cover, rinse and repeat" while in Halo 3 I'm costantly moving forward (atleast on the first level so far).
Elite: Plasma Pistol -> Headshot
Brute: Headshot -> Headshot
 

Faith

Member
Matchmaking still a mess? Well, I'll give it a try next week then.

If this isn't working perfectly by the end of the month, I'm gonna sell everything and ask for a refund.
 
Cross posting 'cause I'm a whore.

Halo 4 on Xbox 360:
dmwTAd.gif

and
Halo 4 on Xbox One (30 second clip. Same puddle)


That's... a disappointment. It's essentially Halo 2 quality water with a slightly better shader now. Why would they have to downgrade anything? Makes me wonder what else they did. Lighting looks a bit more sterile, perhaps. Though that could just be the Xbone and its weird colour output. But then you still have stuff like this when things load in (30 second clip. Exactly as it happened) and frequent dips below what seem 30 in regular gameplay.

This whole game is a mess.
Small effects like this often get lost with HD ports. It sucks.
 

Stig94

Neo Member
Anyone had the issue in Halo CE on the campaign level 'Two Betrayals' where the banshee doesn't spawn after the second pulse generator? There's no other way to reach it.

Kinda stuck so would love for someone to shed some light on it
 

Natiko

Banned
Is there any consistent way to get the IWHBYD skull to appear in Halo 2? Been trying for two hours and can't seem to get it no matter what video I follow.
 

broony

Member
Anyone had the issue in Halo CE on the campaign level 'Two Betrayals' where the banshee doesn't spawn after the second pulse generator? There's no other way to reach it.

Kinda stuck so would love for someone to shed some light on it

I can't remember exactly but basically if you don't manage to have a banshee you are screwed. Yo will need to load last checkpoint. If it's where I think it is you need to clear a few out then rush to the back and grab one early.
 

Cavalier

Banned
Cross posting 'cause I'm a whore.

Halo 4 on Xbox 360:
dmwTAd.gif

and
Halo 4 on Xbox One (30 second clip. Same puddle)


That's... a disappointment. It's essentially Halo 2 quality water with a slightly better shader now. Why would they have to downgrade anything? Makes me wonder what else they did. Lighting looks a bit more sterile, perhaps. Though that could just be the Xbone and its weird colour output. But then you still have stuff like this when things load in (30 second clip. Exactly as it happened) and frequent dips below what seem 30 in regular gameplay.

This whole game is a mess.
They heavily downgraded lightening as well for that level to reach 60fps without having to optimize anything due to time crunch.

Looks like I'll be playing Halo 4 on 360 then.
 

Cavalier

Banned
1080p and no water shader with drops to the mid 40s vs 720p with water shader and drops to the low 20s.



Right.
Special effects and smoother gameplay matter in this case. Dropping frames from 60 to 30 and below is more noticeable than dropping from 30 to 20.

If I really gave a rats ass about high resolution and fps I would've gotten a PS4 and upgraded my desktop instead of X1.
 
You know what's funny? CE has some of the fastest movement and strafe speed in the series, even if it feels a little floaty. It's also the only game I've played now where I haven't felt like sprinting. I hate sprint with a passion, but I won't lie that two years of Halo 4 and the Reach before that have me trying to sprint at times.

It's as if it just isn't needed in CE and I see no reason to feel like sprinting. I spawn, whip out my pistol and go to town with shots, grenades, trying to secure key areas. Halo 2 I've tried to sprint a few times trying to get a power weapon or reach an area of the map, but it's not bad. Halo 3 has been the worst. I feel like my Spartan is crawling. It never felt this way to me. It's almoet unbearably slow. Not only in campaign but multiplayer. And it makes me think, is the reason we get so used to sprint because the movement speeds had declined with each significant game that we really wish we could go faster? If they increased strafe and movement speed for Halo games, would sprint have still been needed as much if you were definitely moving and feeling faster?

I'm a massive Halo 3 fan but even I have to admit something feels off about it in this collection. Seems as though the 60 FPS makes the movement feel slower than it did originally. It's not a case of misrembering as I've been playing it weekly for the last year. On top of that, the aiming, particularly with the sniper, feels noticeably harder. H3 snipe was always the hardest to use in the series (most rewardingly so) but I've gone from regularly dome peeling to sometimes hitting the head, sometimes missing four shots in a row completely. Obviously it's been hard to generate any momentum or consistency with the way MM has been in MCC, so that's a factor. My aiming has been fine in all the other games though.

Could it also be the Xbox One pad I wonder? I don't like the longer sticks and I'm genuinely completely missing melees because of the restrictive new bumpers. I know how to hold the pad to allow a consistent bumper hit but it necessitates placing ones thumb on the right analog stick in a way which is not comfortable for me. Seriously considering investing in one of those adapters which allow you to use a 360 pad on the One.
 

FyreWulff

Member
I'm a massive Halo 3 fan but even I have to admit something feels off about it in this collection. Seems as though the 60 FPS makes the movement feel slower than it did originally. It's not a case of misrembering as I've been playing it weekly for the last year. On top of that, the aiming, particularly with the sniper, feels noticeably harder. H3 snipe was always the hardest to use in the series (most rewardingly so) but I've gone from regularly dome peeling to sometimes hitting the head, sometimes missing four shots in a row completely. Obviously it's been hard to generate any momentum or consistency with the way MM has been in MCC, so that's a factor. My aiming has been fine in all the other games though.

Could it also be the Xbox One pad I wonder? I don't like the longer sticks and I'm genuinely completely missing melees because of the restrictive new bumpers. I know how to hold the pad to allow a consistent bumper hit but it necessitates placing ones thumb on the right analog stick in a way which is not comfortable for me. Seriously considering investing in one of those adapters which allow you to use a 360 pad on the One.

Has anyone tested the deadzones between H3 360 and H3 MCC?

I wonder if it's similar to some reports where people can't get the pistol to cancel it's spread from pulling the trigger, and they didn't put a deadzone on anything.
 

Caayn

Member
Sentinel Beam + Scarab skull = <3 Why? Because fuck you and everyone near you.
Is there any consistent way to get the IWHBYD skull to appear in Halo 2? Been trying for two hours and can't seem to get it no matter what video I follow.
Lots of luck, that's the best advise honestly. Also make sure that you trigger all 7 checkpoints. For me it didn't appear when I accidentally triggered more than the 7 required checkpoints.
 

Omoshai

Neo Member
I've (according to MCC) played 120 Matchmaking games now - I took the days off following the release of MCC so been persevering with the system, and yesterday I had one of my oldest friend's over who brought his Xbox One and MCC.

Best practice for matchmaking - I have been able to find games without having searching bars, however this is rare and obviously less clear whether the game is actually working. To get the searching bars, usually if you back out enough then go back in it will reappear or simply change playlists. If your not finding games after 5 min's do this anyways and try again, after your 3rd attempt, restart the game. We both found this solved our problems intermittently.

Partying up - The game simply wont match you on the same team no matter what you do, both when we tried split screen and when we played on our separate One's. Even if it shows you'll be on the same team on the pre game lobby in the game we found someone would actually be on the different teams. In fact 70% of the time we were on opposite teams. Latest patch notes say this should be sorted most of the time, but I can't confirm that's the case.

To get someone in your party use the Invite player option when everyone is in the matchmaking lobby, and that only. Don't use join player, its inconsistent and when it fails a bug happens when you lose the options to either invite/join and need to back out similar to the matchmaking "solution". I don't recommend using the gamercard option to join in the game as this crashed every single time for both of us, however inviting from Xbox One system worked occasionally. With the Invite player option this worked every time as long as the option was available, at least for us.

I can't begin to write up the amount of bugs we encountered, this game was definitely not ready for launch or properly QA tested, but persevere especially if your here for the multiplayer.

Edit: UI bug
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Im kinda glad I havent bought it yet. The matchmaking would drive me nuts. MP is what I want it for.

I will get it, no doubt about that. But just waiting till I hear that its fixed completely. Or at least fixed enough to not have all these issues.
 
A shame about some missing effects in 4, it seems nearly all bundle/collection ports suffer from this, metroid prime being one which was missing a bunch if PAL only effects.

Doesn't ruin the collection for me but sometimes it's a shame.
 

Guile

Banned
Cross posting 'cause I'm a whore.

Halo 4 on Xbox 360:
dmwTAd.gif

and
Halo 4 on Xbox One (30 second clip. Same puddle)


That's... a disappointment. It's essentially Halo 2 quality water with a slightly better shader now. Why would they have to downgrade anything? Makes me wonder what else they did. Lighting looks a bit more sterile, perhaps. Though that could just be the Xbone and its weird colour output. But then you still have stuff like this when things load in (30 second clip. Exactly as it happened) and frequent dips below what seem 30 in regular gameplay.

This whole game is a mess.
Well this is disappointing :\

Really wish MS would've given X1 a little more GPU juice.
 
Has anyone tested the deadzones between H3 360 and H3 MCC?

I wonder if it's similar to some reports where people can't get the pistol to cancel it's spread from pulling the trigger, and they didn't put a deadzone on anything.

Would definitely be interesting. Another thing I've noticed is every once in a while I'll pull the trigger and it doesn't register. Don't know if that's an issue with my individual pad, a general issue or something to do with the master bug collection itself.

Also randomly getting audio drops in H2:A multiplayer.
 

BeforeU

Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
So guys matchmaking is fine now? This is my 6th match and it didnt kick me out of they lobby. I am happy :p

One the side note, where is the epilogue that they were talking about which connects this to Halo 5. I beat halo 2 last night. Saw the opening cut scene with lock but nothing at the end.
 
So guys matchmaking is fine now? This is my 6th match and it didnt kick me out of they lobby. I am happy :p

One the side note, where is the epilogue that they were talking about which connects this to Halo 5. I beat halo 2 last night. Saw the opening cut scene with lock but nothing at the end.
Nope, still taking 10 minutes, and still being teleported on maps randomly when I start to move
 

MysteryM

Member
So guys matchmaking is fine now? This is my 6th match and it didnt kick me out of they lobby. I am happy :p

One the side note, where is the epilogue that they were talking about which connects this to Halo 5. I beat halo 2 last night. Saw the opening cut scene with lock but nothing at the end.

I played a few this morning, a couple of minutes max wait per game.
 

sam777

Member
So guys matchmaking is fine now? This is my 6th match and it didnt kick me out of they lobby. I am happy :p

One the side note, where is the epilogue that they were talking about which connects this to Halo 5. I beat halo 2 last night. Saw the opening cut scene with lock but nothing at the end.

I don't think it is working properly but if you find a game it seems to be kicking you out of the lobby after a lot less.
 
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