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Halo The Master Chief Collection |OT| Halo Never Died, It Was Just Missing In Action

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You know what's funny? CE has some of the fastest movement and strafe speed in the series, even if it feels a little floaty. It's also the only game I've played now where I haven't felt like sprinting. I hate sprint with a passion, but I won't lie that two years of Halo 4 and the Reach before that have me trying to sprint at times.

It's as if it just isn't needed in CE and I see no reason to feel like sprinting. I spawn, whip out my pistol and go to town with shots, grenades, trying to secure key areas. Halo 2 I've tried to sprint a few times trying to get a power weapon or reach an area of the map, but it's not bad. Halo 3 has been the worst. I feel like my Spartan is crawling. It never felt this way to me. It's almoet unbearably slow. Not only in campaign but multiplayer. And it makes me think, is the reason we get so used to sprint because the movement speeds had declined with each significant game that we really wish we could go faster? If they increased strafe and movement speed for Halo games, would sprint have still been needed as much if you were definitely moving and feeling faster?
Movement speed declined, but don't discount how ranged battles have declined as well with Halo 2 and 3. The DMR helped a lot with this and people complained about the ping fests, but I was glad we could actually shoot people from a distance again. I never had trouble moving around maps because there was ample cover and I was aware of my surroundings, so despite the DMR being 3x with hitscan, I think it was about time we had that weapon after 6 years of only the BR.

Now 343 looks to be going back to AR/Pistol starts as I've been suggesting since day one. Only thing is, the Pistol needs range and some legit killing power that's balanced by its difficulty to master. It has 12 shots, so I'm hoping it's no more than a 5sk.
 

Megasoum

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Yep, it skips the mission if you save and quit too. Best thing to do is finish the level in one sitting, or go to mission select, select 343 Guilty Spark and start over. You can save and quit half way through and not worry that way.

So I need to make sure to finish 343 and start the Library before I can quit?
 

Seventy70

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I have a feeling this collection will never be fixed. I knew it sounded too good to be true in the first place. All of the Halo games in HD with their multiplayers all intact? It was WAY too good to be true.
 

Kssio_Aug

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I have a feeling this collection will never be fixed. I knew it sounded too good to be true in the first place. All of the Halo games in HD with their multiplayers all intact? It was WAY too good to be true.

I will wait till the next patch. If it doesnt fix the matcmaking issues to find a match, then I believe it wont either.

I am almost just buying CoD AW.
 

Madness

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I have a feeling this collection will never be fixed. I knew it sounded to good to be true in the first place. All of the Halo games in HD with their multiplayers all intact? It was WAY too good to be true.

Yeah I don't think all the issues will be ironed out. They've got the initial sales, and Halo 5 beta come about next year and most of the studio was only focusing on that game. They'll fix the major issues, maybe some of the more egregious glitches and bugs, but the other stuff will be chalked up as a loss and it'll just stay that way. Maybe if this was 2007 and they had map packs to sell, needed the game to last 2+ years.

Heck I mean, it took them almost two years to just fix the achievement issues of Halo 4 and only did that just before we all moved onto MCC.
 

Bread

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I have a feeling this collection will never be fixed. I knew it sounded too good to be true in the first place. All of the Halo games in HD with their multiplayers all intact? It was WAY too good to be true.
Bahahah its pretty early to assume that, no? Halo is Microsoft's cash cow, they aren't going to stop until this game is everything they promised.
 
Bahahah its pretty early to assume that, no? Halo is Microsoft's cash cow, they aren't going to stop until this game is everything they promised.

i thought that was the case before it launched. When is the Halo 5 beta? I think once we get close to that any support to fix this game drops in an instant
 
This game is so fucking broken. Found a match made game of H2A (after 15 minutes and exiting the game and restarting) and every time I pushed a direction on the left stick it sounded like it was scrolling through the UI. Then it fucking froze on the loading screen afterward. Like, what the fuck 343? Did anyone even play the fucking game before they shipped it?
 

JayEH

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Get in a game :D

SMG starts D:

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Seventy70

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Bahahah its pretty early to assume that, no? Halo is Microsoft's cash cow, they aren't going to stop until this game is everything they promised.
I doubt. With the amount of glitches in the game, I highly doubt they'll be fixed. They got the initial launch money for the game. The people that wanted to play old Halo got the collection. They have no reason to really fix everything. I would have honestly preferred if this game was delayed a couple of months and actually tested.
 

Bread

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I doubt. With the amount of glitches in the game, I highly doubt they'll be fixed. They got the initial launch money for the game. The people that wanted to play old Halo got the collection. They have no reason to really fix everything. I would have honestly preferred if this game was delayed a couple of months and actually tested.
It hasn't even been out for a week and you've decided that 343 and MS are done putting any effort into the game? Give me a break, this game is fucking enormous for the future of the XB1.
 

MysteryM

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Despite being given the prime real estate on Amazon the collection continues to fall.

MS screwed up so bad
I hate to say it but by the time this thing is actually up and running which aint going to be next week you guys might not have anyone to play with.

I'm still playing gears 3, 3 years after release and never struggle to find a game. I think we will be okay....
 

E92 M3

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It hasn't even been out for a week and you've decided that 343 and MS are done putting any effort into the game? Give me a break, this game is fucking enormous for the future of the XB1.

All this game is doing is hurting the future of XB1. They fucked up badly with this release. I expect games to work day 1 for my 60 dollars, not wait "a week" or more.
 

Kssio_Aug

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I bought CoD yesterday. Guess what? Matchmaking works and it's not a bad game.

I believe in you.
I will try Dragon Age and wait to the next patch. Not fixing that mess, I will probably get CoD, that I almost bought one week before Halo, but didnt because I thought it would be a good idea to wait and just play Halo. Maybe I was wrong.
 

Seventy70

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It hasn't even been out for a week and you've decided that 343 and MS are done putting any effort into the game? Give me a break, this game is fucking enormous for the future of the XB1.
Have you seen the types of bugs in the game? This game has major problems in its code. They would pretty much need to remake the collection from the ground up which I doubt will happen. Matchmaking might get fixed next week, but what about all of the other stuff like ui glitches and freezing. This game doesn't even notify you when it finds a game and you are using another app. That's basic functionality for all Xbox One games. They cut their losses and just shipped the game to make what they could. If they had any care about the final product, they wouldnt have shipped it in this condition.
 

mhi

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The H2A playlist just never works for me. I've able to get in a few matches from the Team Slayer hopper but that playlist always gives me an error.
 

Chitown B

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I doubt. With the amount of glitches in the game, I highly doubt they'll be fixed. They got the initial launch money for the game. The people that wanted to play old Halo got the collection. They have no reason to really fix everything. I would have honestly preferred if this game was delayed a couple of months and actually tested.

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I haven't come across glitches. I've come across matchmaking issues.
 
I was just about to start a B2B timberline match and it crashed my Xbox. Unreal.

If 343 & Microsoft are doing anything short of a Pri1 war room to resolve this, they are fucking WRONG.
 

Everdred

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Christ almighty, these games I'm getting in are making me think I'm the only one who hasn't been practicing for this collection.
I used to be top player in 90% of matches and still am in other games but I can't seem to kill anyone in this game. I'm lucky if I get 7 kills in any match.
 

Bread

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Have you seen the types of bugs in the game? This game has major problems in its code. They would pretty much need to remake the collection from the ground up which I doubt will happen. Matchmaking might get fixed next week, but what about all of the other stuff like ui glitches and freezing. This game doesn't even notify you when it finds a game and you are using another app. That's basic functionality for all Xbox One games. They cut their losses and just shipped the game to make what they could. If they had any care about the final product, they wouldnt have shipped it in this condition.
Ok I'll let the devs work on it before making the call that everything is beyond saving.
 

ryan299

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Matchmaking is worse since the update. I was finding games before the update last night. Also when in a party you can't leave matchmaking with your party. incredibly frustrating.
 

Mendoza

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I used to be top player in 90% of matches and still am in other games but I can't seem to kill anyone in this game. I'm lucky if I get 7 kills in any match.

Do the physics or mechanics feel different? I have yet to buy because I don't play Halo for Single Player. Waiting for that patch to take the plunge.

It's a shame, because this was one of my top titles for the year.
 
Another thing that's bugged me is how did the game get such high scores in this state? I swear I saw early DF impressions that said things were good. Then as soon as I purchase my digital edition I see a list of what does/doesn't work for each game.

What online did reviewers play? Was this a case where they boot up, play a couple missions, play a custom game and since they've played it before went "yup that's halo", scored it high and moved on?

Have sites been doing any articles about the issues since launch or anything?
 

Dubz

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Driving around in the first warthog section of CE is giving me a headache with all the frame drops. Kinda wish I could just play at a locked 30.
 

Everdred

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Do the physics or mechanics feel different? I have yet to buy because I don't play Halo for Single Player. Waiting for that patch to take the plunge.

It's a shame, because this was one of my top titles for the year.
It's exactly how I remember it. I can only assume that my time away from the franchise has sabotaged by skill.
 

mrklaw

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Has anyone had any luck returning this to GAME in the UK? They're normally arses about returns but hoping someone has managed.
 

Booshka

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Driving around in the first warthog section of CE is giving me a headache with all the frame drops. Kinda wish I could just play at a locked 30.

Play the old graphics. New graphics don't even look that good imo, and the performance is underwhelming.
 

clav

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There's a respawn bug in Halo 2 on 3v4 team for a 3 teamer.

My game stalls in "Respawn in 4" and stays there for a minute before respawning.

Basically, I can't respawn at all.
 

WJD

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Just got into a game with a (gasp!) full party and was greeted with only two map voting options, with a big empty space in the middle of both. Then the countdown reached 0 and we... went nowhere.

Had to quit out.

Now can't join my friends party - getting an error message saying that the game is full.

why why why why do I persist
 
This is stupid. I was patient enough to wait until the weekend to see if they fixed it but I'm not finding any games. I can't believe it'll be a week or so after release and the vast majority of people can't play the game online which is the main thing people want to do. That's unacceptable. And it's sad that what is basically a huge game for the system is going to turn into a running joke. They really screwed this up. I guess the game was a little too ambitious for it's own good. They should have left the online focus on Halo 2.
 
So I am playing through Halo 4 to see how it looks. Though it seems to suffer from extreme framedrops when reaching checkpoints or when it's loading new areas. I can't remember having that issue on the 360 version for some reason.

After playing CE and H2A, man. The elites in H4 pose no challenge at all, the ones in CE and H2 can be merciless at times. Judging by the prologue cinematic, we might be getting the H2A design back (I am loving that one) and I am still somewhat torn on whether or not I want them to speak their native tongue or english, both have their merits.
 
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