Still quite saddened by all this. Halo CE, Halo 2, Halo 3, and Halo Reach are my most played and treasured games. There were some parts of Halo 4 I despised; however, I thought the production was top notch (please ditch the Forerunners, ugh) . Halo ODST was a nice surprise as well. It had a tight and controlled single player, and it introduced firefight. This is all a step back. I wanted this to be the re-birth of Halo. Now I understand contextually why this is entitled "The Master Chief Collection". Because his story, at least played from our perspective is pretty much on the wane, along with most of the mechanics that made Halo phenomenal. Don't get me wrong though, most of the FPS titles released recently all have their measure of issues, and I feel the genre is on the wane, but man, you guys had one job... ONE JOB!
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Halo The Master Chief Collection |OT| Halo Never Died, It Was Just Missing In Action
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Ozzy Onya A2Z
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Someone doesn't remember Halo 2 mods, host booting, standby and all the rest...
These things happen, look at BF4, look at Sim City etc. Games and online gaming is very complex, it ain't easy which is why a fair number of games have issues that take months to iron out. I'd rather the industry shift to a release schedule of content every 3 or 6 months, early day one buyers are happy and the devs get a window in line with the marketing push.
MCC's launch is bad but it's hardly an isolated incident in the industry, a new approach would be nice.
Open betas for all 
the game worked though...
Its completely different because the things you listed were all problems created by assholes in the community.
With MCC the game just flat out doesn't work, because of the developers
WickedLaharl
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lol instead they would remove 95% of the game and just release the remainder
Ice cold!
Conflict NZ
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B..b...but 20% increased server activity!
spare yourself the disappointment and just wait for the patch, I know I won't try again until it's out. Waiting in matchmaking and then getting a horribly matched / uneven / often laggy/ empty match is killing what little hype is left
super-heated plasma
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Almost beat Cairo station on Halo 2 on legendary. I save and quit and lose my progress. Now I gotta fight in those fucking hangars again. Sigh. At least the Blur cut scenes are amazing.
Don't you know there are more important things to tend to than a broken product that people payed for....... like how vape is a new word in the Oxford dictionary...... or how a man was evicted due to the stench of urine.....or deciding which James Bond wore the best tuxedo. Priorities.
soulassssns
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This is just sad, checking post history as some kind of evidence that he's not doing his job. No wonder a ton of devs stopped posting here.
All while doing that he could've just been flipping the server switch to ON instead. ;_;
GringoSuave89
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That's my feeling as well. Just wait until everything goes smoother.
I'll bet he's even been going to the bathroom and washing his hands after!
soxinthebox
Member
To be fair he probably just found that out when he checked if Stinkles had any more updates after the sympathy post 12 hours ago.
I'm not saying he can't post in other threads, but if he's on GAF and has the time, he could.......you know......post that update he promised?
Is there any news that 343 is working on fixing this glitch? If checkpoints aren't being saved in solo or co-op, then I won't even bother to buy the game.
FYI, I have no problem with a game being designed to have no real checkpoints to increase difficulty - perhaps the game is simply designed to be more difficult that way. But there is no evidence that this is a conscious design decision. It sounds like another broken feature.
Please remember that Halo CE 360 had a stupid incomprehensible glitch that would prevent checkpoints from being saved when playing the co-op campaign. Can't be a design issue related to difficulty - because you can save checkpoints in solo.
Twin Tails
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yeah, just happened to me for the first time, turned it off and came back to it had to redo some of "the oracle". Also yes the blur cutscenes do help.
Also, that opening cutscene for "Delta Halo" fuck.... So Gud.
https://account.xbox.com/en-us/gameclip/8a19dd93-26ef-4029-b84c-48cdf747014d?gamerTag=VG%20FACT%20CHECKER&scid=77290100-225e-4768-9373-98164430a9f8
Fox Mulder
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the matchmaking issues are awful enough, but hearing lots of this stuff turned me off of buying the game.
KeyboardThug
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It seems to be only certain checkpoints that are glitched in Halo 2. All CE checkpoints worked for me and even a few from 2. But I do hope they are working on this also.
Juke Joint Jezebel
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The patch coming out this week apparently is looking to fix a bunch of campaign stuff so hopefully there's a fix in that.During my legendary solo playthrough of all the games, the only game this ever happened to me on was Halo 4 thankfully. Wasn't checkpoint related though oddly enough! Got a "Untracked Build" error and it wiped 2 levels worth of progress.
"shit don' work"
Droopaloop
Banned
Got into a good group a players for team slayer tonight that kept voting for Halo: CE. No lag, no unexpected hitches during games, even teams. When the online portion of this game works it's fun as hell.
XANDER CAGE
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I would have really liked to see cleaned-up H2 cutscenes with the in-game models rather than the CGI scenes.
And I do mean cleaned up, because this is the scene where the grunt moves without animating when chief says "boo." It's like that in the original, too!
This is the saddest part for me.I know that I could sit and play some awesome matches but instead I have to sit in menus and wait for 10-15 minutes or more with hope that I will find some match that have even teams.I decided to stop "playing" and wait for a patch two days ago because it was getting annoying.
I hope this thing will work
Bornstellar
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CE Legendary kicking my butt.
He could still say the stuff they found to be wrong and the stuff they are planning to address soon. There's no reason for us to be in the dark about this.
It's people like you that have created such a negative and hostile environment here where discourse between gamers, journos/press and developers has all but finished.
Frank is the franchise development director, not lead programmer. He visits GAF on his own accord to hang out and chat with people who share his love for gaming and to speak directly to fans who also enjoy the hobby that is gaming. What does him posting in off-topic threads have to do with anything? He doesn't owe you any explanation on GAF. Want a response to the problems, follow Halo Waypoint, speak to Xbox customer support, follow their twitter channel. Just because Frank engages the fans here, doesn't mean he has to answer or respond or even post at all.
Maybe question why he doesn't really frequent the threads, especially on gaming side anymore. Maybe look at why other devs don't engage fans/gamers here anymore either. No, I'm not slurping any dev here. I'm giving you some perspective. We currently have two way conversations with devs, and it's a privilege to have that on this forum. He's not here to put out fires at all. At best it's a community manager job and they have those for Waypoint.
Juke Joint Jezebel
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Here's a shortcut that you can take right from the beginning that skips the entire 1/3 of the level and takes you straight to the Zanzibar Hotel section. Skipping the alleyways and the beginning stand-off completely. Also, there's a skull to be found up there as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAazKpkpTjs
Droopaloop
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This is the saddest part for me.I know that I could sit and play some awesome matches but instead I have to sit in menus and wait for 10-15 minutes or more with hope that I will find some match that have even teams.I decided to stop "playing" and wait for a patch two days ago because it was getting annoying.
I hope this thing will work
Yeah, I normally don't wait too long. I got into a game in probably 2-3 minutes, so I got lucky tonight. Started out with 8 of us, then two left. We all just stuck it out with each other for 4 or 5 games and did 3v3 and it was good times.
Hopefully 343 gets the patch sorted out for the weekend.
soxinthebox
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orichalcos
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My remake of The Cage is done. I call it confined now. If you guys want to give it a download its in my fileshare. GT is ryaN 299.
Awesome. I need this.
K
kittens
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Seriously.
SatansReverence
Hipster Princess
Uh, co-op in Halo has NEVER saved checkpoints after quitting...
It's not at glitch...
Thanks, yea I know about it, but I have this weird thing where I make myself complete every encounter, lol. It actually didn't take that long compared to some levels in CE like T&R, but damn if it wasn't a bitch to clear out a spot then get sniped from the adjacent alley, lol.
In Halo CE 360, how come there are saved checkpoints in solo but not in co-op?
Did you clear the Banshee grab part of Two Betrayals on Legendary? I haven't done that in a while, but it took me about an hour to clear out every single enemy and tank in that area, it's insanely hard, and fun.
SatansReverence
Hipster Princess
It has ALWAYS been like that. It's not just Halo CEA...
Why? Ask Bungie.
It's definitely NOT a glitch.
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aspiegamer
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I no longer own an XB1 so this isn't for me specifically, but after things started last week some friends have asked about MCC because I'm "in the know" by their standards ("OMG you're on GAF?!?" And yes I've told them anyone can read it any register for membership, and that it doesn't automatically mean you know more about video games or something absurd).
They're desperate to try to decide what console to grab on Black Friday. A few have been Halo nuts on and off for a decade but I want to be realistic and have that mean not breaking their hearts if at all possible. What's an educated over/under for how long until being able to just install the thing and go online with only a moderate amount of trouble? Something like getting matching in ~5min with few bugs that wreck the fun. Is there hope before the end of the year, at least? I could still say the XB1 was a reasonable pick for them if they didn't mind waiting it out a little longer but they'll slowly get grumpy about not having a PS4 to use without a compelling reason not to flip.
Alternatively I'm considering suggesting they get a good PS4 bundle with 2+ games, selling the retail games and trading in the console for an XB1 after this mess ends, but that's a lot of extra hassle. They'd almost surely miss the Halo 5 beta then, too.
They're desperate to try to decide what console to grab on Black Friday. A few have been Halo nuts on and off for a decade but I want to be realistic and have that mean not breaking their hearts if at all possible. What's an educated over/under for how long until being able to just install the thing and go online with only a moderate amount of trouble? Something like getting matching in ~5min with few bugs that wreck the fun. Is there hope before the end of the year, at least? I could still say the XB1 was a reasonable pick for them if they didn't mind waiting it out a little longer but they'll slowly get grumpy about not having a PS4 to use without a compelling reason not to flip.
Alternatively I'm considering suggesting they get a good PS4 bundle with 2+ games, selling the retail games and trading in the console for an XB1 after this mess ends, but that's a lot of extra hassle. They'd almost surely miss the Halo 5 beta then, too.
Bornstellar
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Check back Wednesday.
Mendax
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about that...
2mad2behere
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For the postponed patch, that will be online sometime in the future.
Seriously, why can't be they more open about this stuff? If they could clarify what the issue is, then waiting for them to fix it would be a lot easier.
Now all you get is, we are fixing it, we didn't fix by the time we promised, we will fix it in future, but we wont tell you when.
Just be more open about your problems, it is clear you are having them so nobody is comforted by some PR statement trying to undersell the problems.
Mr. Enigma
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I really don't understand why they have to wait until after the patch to tell us what went wrong. What harm is it seriously going to cause to know that now?
SuicidalSteve
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