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Halo The Master Chief Collection |OT| Halo Never Died, It Was Just Missing In Action

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Newlove

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I hope this patch fixes odd player matches and just general stability going in and out of matches. The speed of matchmaking isn't too bad at the moment in some playlists but could be faster. They should return to displaying when players are found on the lobby list itself and then fill it in. The system feels kind of dated as it is.
 

RSB

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My achievement still hasn't unlocked.
Yeah, I still have the "beat Halo over the par score" achievement stuck in the "Done. Unlocking..." phase. It's been more than three weeks now. Once that achievement unlocks it should also give me the achievement for beating every level over the par score in Halo CE.

In my Carrer it shows both achievements as completed (it says 25000/25000 in one and 10/10 in the other) but neither the achievements nor the emblems have unlocked. Kind of annoying.
 

NameGenerated

Who paid you to grab Dr. Pavel?
Yeah my Outskirts and Arbiter levels have been Done...Unlocking since the game was released. I still got the achievements for completing the whole campaign though.
 
Want to pitch in some feedback about halo nightfall.

Some shooting scenes, whoever did the sound mixing gave DMR's a triple fire BR sound effect.

Also on the Halo Channel, after episode 2 played it tried to auto play episode 4 before I had even seen 3, not very good.
 
Yup. I have 3 level compilation achievements stuck on Done! Unlocking... as well. I did had a fourth one (listen to Chips Dubbo in Halo CE) that unlocked after two week of being stuck, so that makes me think its a waiting game at this point.


Also, has any one else got stuck with "New Unlock" menu pop ups that won't go away?

After I find a terminal in Halo 2, I get a pop up after the level saying that a new movie is available in Extras.

Unfortunately trying to watch videos in Extra's just brings up the Halo Channel, and watching the videos there does not make the pop-ups go away.

So now every time I finish a SP mission or MP match, I get "New Unlock" pop up in the lower right corner, for the number of terminals I have unlocked. It causes menu lag, and is very annoying to never have a smooth transition out of a game anymore. Makes me wish I never found any of the stupid terminals.
 
I just want to point out that I just got this game and it's been pretty much perfect. I know that its not working for most people but it at least has the capability to work well. My only problem is that I have to send back my xbox because the disk drive is making funny sounds that I don't trust.
 
My point is that taking ANYONE'S experience at face value is pointless. Not just the ones with complaints. Even the ones without many problems. At this point it's just luck whether or not you have a good experience.

No mate. Taking anyone's positive experiences at face value is pointless since those people are clearly in the minority here.

If its working ok for you, great. But you are one of the lucky few. And I bet even you are running into issues on and off.

Overwhelming odds are if anyone picks this up right now, they are in for a bad experience.

If someone has zero interest in MP and wants to get this purely for SP, its worth looking into. Even then its a little buggy but its playable and maybe worth your money.

Everyone else. Dont. Buy. This. Game.
 

Sephzilla

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No mate. Taking anyone's positive experiences at face value is pointless since those people are clearly in the minority here.

If its working ok for you, great. But you are one of the lucky few. And I bet even you are running into issues on and off.

Overwhelming odds are if anyone picks this up right now, they are in for a bad experience.

If someone has zero interest in MP and wants to get this purely for SP, its worth looking into. Even then its a little buggy but its playable and maybe worth your money.

Everyone else. Dont. Buy. This. Game.

I'm sorry but I think this is an incredibly stupid mindset to have. People who are having issues and who aren't having issues should have their experiences viewed equally. Doing what you imply is going to quickly spiral downward into an even deeper circle of vile comments which will probably continue well past the point where MCC starts seeing more substantial improvements.
 

Boston

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I just got this game for free, but I'm debating on wether or not to open it. Has the MM improved and when is the next patch supposed to be coming out to "fix" it?
 
No mate. Taking anyone's positive experiences at face value is pointless since those people are clearly in the minority here.

Yeah, here. The negativity is overwhelming here. Overall? We don't know for sure. I've heard a good even mix overall from people in real life and online. But again, it varies.

If its working ok for you, great. But you are one of the lucky few. And I bet even you are running into issues on and off.

Of course, but perhaps I'm a bit more tolerant of the issues as well.

Overwhelming odds are if anyone picks this up right now, they are in for a bad experience.

I think that depends on a variety of things. Luck, tolerance, patience, etc. I wouldn't recommend it to someone who isn't already into Halo but I sure as hell would to a fan.

It's common practice to base a purchase off of other's experiences. But when the experiences are so varied it makes more sense to just pick up the game yourself and return it if it isn't working for you. It's simple.
 
I'm sorry but I think this is an incredibly stupid mindset to have. People who are having issues and who aren't having issues should have their experiences viewed equally. Doing what you imply is going to quickly spiral downward into an even deeper circle of vile comments which will probably continue well past the point where MCC starts seeing more substantial improvements.

LOL no. :D

The game is broken for the overwhelming majority of people who are playing it. Look at the posts in this thread itself if you just want an example. Almost every other post is a bug report of some kind.

Asking people to take the positive comments and negative comments equally is borderline deceitful. I'm not saying if the game is "somewhat" working for you then your opinion is invalid in and of itself. Its just invalid to anyone who is looking to make a purchasing decision. If someone is reading this thread trying to decide if the game is worth their hard earned 60$ then they deserve to know that the odds of them having a positive experience arent 50/50. Not even close.

If it was up to me I would edit the OP and the thread title. /Shrug

Yeah, here. The negativity is overwhelming here. Overall? We don't know for sure. I've heard a good even mix overall from people in real life and online. But again, it varies.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/804186-halo-the-master-chief-collection

https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/forums/84ad72a8b51847978545f685f651fc15/topics

r/Halo is the same.

I have a pretty large group of friends who play this online. Their opinion is the same.

Short of doing an poll of everyone who bought this game, that is as good as an indicator as you will get. Its overwhelmingly negative pretty much everywhere.
 
I just got this game for free, but I'm debating on wether or not to open it. Has the MM improved and when is the next patch supposed to be coming out to "fix" it?

It's improved for me personally, but as far as I've heard, has not for others. Personally, it takes about 3-4 minutes end to end for me to get into a match. Teams are still one-sided some of the time, but overall MM is working a bit better.
 

Chitown B

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I'm sorry but I think this is an incredibly stupid mindset to have. People who are having issues and who aren't having issues should have their experiences viewed equally. Doing what you imply is going to quickly spiral downward into an even deeper circle of vile comments which will probably continue well past the point where MCC starts seeing more substantial improvements.

Agreed. For instance my buddy had a game breaking bug in Dragon Age Origins where dialogue wouldn't complete so the story wouldn't move forward. And this never got fixed. So his experience and mine were completely different. However, his should not be weighted more heavily.
 

Sephzilla

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LOL no. :D

The game is broken for the overwhelming majority of people who are playing it. Look at the posts in this thread itself if you just want an example. Almost every other post is a bug report of some kind.

Asking people to take the positive comments and negative comments equally is borderline deceitful. I'm not saying if the game is "somewhat" working for you then your opinion is invalid in and of itself. Its just invalid to anyone who is looking to make a purchasing decision. If someone is reading this thread trying to decide if the game is worth their hard earned 60$ then they deserve to know that the odds of them having a positive experience arent 50/50. Not even close.

If it was up to me I would edit the OP and the thread title. /Shrug

As you just said people can look at the overall run of posts in this thread to find out about the mostly negative reaction on gaf. But that shouldn't be permission to immediately discredit some of the positive experiences people have had. If you look and judge everyone's posts equally you're still going to see a hugely negative reaction.

What you're proposing is basically turning this entire thread into a "we hate 343" circle jerk.

Lets hypothetically say that after the next patch drops 9 people come in here and say "yeah my experience has gotten a lot better", if one person comes in here and says "nope still sucks for me" are you really saying that one person who's having a problem should outweigh the other 9 people? Absolutely nobody is denying that MCC doesn't have a shitload of issues, but I'd rather keep this thread a productive thread and not turn into a thread that's the poster child for why devs don't come to GAF anymore.
 

Chitown B

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LOL no. :D

The game is broken for the overwhelming majority of people who are playing it. Look at the posts in this thread itself if you just want an example. Almost every other post is a bug report of some kind.

You do realize people don't go out of their way to post positive comments. They just play the game. Negative comments, in all of the internet, are the norm. Look at Amazon reviews.
 
You do realize people don't go out of their way to post positive comments. They just play the game. Negative comments, in all of the internet, are the norm. Look at Amazon reviews.

I'm sorry, what? I always read Amazon reviews before I buy a product and there are positive comments (for products that deserve them, of course). Sometimes I have to go out of my way to find 2 or 1 star reviews (since I mostly try to order items by best reviewed).

I think I know what you were going for but you're wrong about Negative comments being "the norm". It really depends on the product.
 

GoodlifeX

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I can post something positive. I played last night and Im happy that I am actually getting into games now and having a great time. However I'd say 1/3 of the games I played had uneven teams :/ ...yeah definitely will be holding off on a Halo 5 day one purchase....
 
I can post something positive. I played last night and Im happy that I am actually getting into games now and having a great time. However I'd say 1/3 of the games I played had uneven teams :/ ...yeah definitely will be holding off on a Halo 5 day one purchase....

Yes, I think uneven teams is the biggest problem at the moment. For me anyway. Hopefully the Halo 5 beta launch goes more smoothly... It looks so fun and I wanna be able to play it without any obstacles.
 

Sephzilla

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I can post something positive. I played last night and Im happy that I am actually getting into games now and having a great time. However I'd say 1/3 of the games I played had uneven teams :/ ...yeah definitely will be holding off on a Halo 5 day one purchase....

Uneven teams is the big issue I run into. I still sometimes get 2+ minute wait times but the uneven teams is a majority of the issue. For me, lately, when I actually get an even number of players the teams tend to be split evenly (granted guests still seem to get split). I've only had one time in the last week or so where an even number of players got uneven teams.

Most of the time for me the team balancing issues are simply because the games start with an odd number of players - which should never happen.
 

Hubble

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Yup, why the fuck is the game searching 5 v 5? It wasn't even doing that on release.

Also how hard is it to patch for even teams? I am still getting uneven matches. Is it really that hard to program to not start a match and reset search if uneven teams are detected? 343 is not showing me a lot of competence in handling Halo starting from Halo 4.
 
You do realize people don't go out of their way to post positive comments. They just play the game. Negative comments, in all of the internet, are the norm. Look at Amazon reviews.

And you do realize that we have OTs for Far Cry 4, CoD AW, GTA V OTs etc which are shocking devoid of these level of negative posts?

Perhaps you should think about whats different between those games and this.

Lets hypothetically say that after the next patch drops 9 people come in here and say "yeah my experience has gotten a lot better", if one person comes in here and says "nope still sucks for me" are you really saying that one person who's having a problem should outweigh the other 9 people?

No. I am saying quite the opposite in fact.

Infact it is you who wants both sides of comments to be taken equally. So by your example itself, if the game is broken for 1 person and working for 99 then would you still say that the game is broken since both sides deserve to be taken equally?

Absolutely nobody is denying that MCC doesn't have a shitload of issues, but I'd rather keep this thread a productive thread and not turn into a thread that's the poster child for why devs don't come to GAF anymore.

And what is "productive" by your definition? Remove all negativity? Any posts that complain about the game not working?
 

Sephzilla

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And what is "productive" by your definition? Remove all negativity? Any posts that complain about the game not working?

Wow.

It's like you didn't even read what I was saying.

I want it to be that when someone posts a negative comment people can read a negative comment. But if someone posts a positive comment, how about we don't immediately go "no don't listen to him because my game is broken". Wanting everyone's comments to be weighed equally =/= lets purge the negativity from this thread.
 

GoodlifeX

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MCC is getting there for sure. They are lucky I like Halo so much...I can't think of any other franchise where I would gabe tolerated all the issues. Halo 5 does looks incredibly fun. I hope they really analyze their network data during the beta. It would be insane not to after all this.
 
So all the multiplayer has been p2p up to this point?
When is dedicated server support expected?

Also, the unbalanced teams have gotten worse since the release of last weeks patch. I can't get above level 15 without a bunch of games of 5v2 or 5v4 deranking me.

Games very fun when it works and when the host is good. Just wish the team balance and dedicated server issues were fixed.
 
I really wish someone from 343 could explain how this matchmaking works.

Like, how do you search for 5v5 Slayer and end up in a match that's 6v3? I know I'm essentially just venting right now but jeez.

Also what's with the game randomly stopping matchmaking and then throwing everyone it found into a party? I've truly never seen anything like that. Had that happen last night and we all just started playing custom games lol.
 
So all the multiplayer has been p2p up to this point?
When is dedicated server support expected?

Also, the unbalanced teams have gotten worse since the release of last weeks patch. I can't get above level 15 without a bunch of games of 5v2 or 5v4 deranking me.

Games very fun when it works and when the host is good. Just wish the team balance and dedicated server issues were fixed.

A few H3 games i played had a message pop up that said "connecting to dedicated server"
after loading the map. They were the best games of Halo I've ever played from a connection standpoint.
 
The universal button schemes all suck. They're all close to perfect but not perfect. With a control scheme its either right or wrong though.
 

dwells

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The universal button schemes all suck. They're all close to perfect but not perfect. With a control scheme its either right or wrong though.

I don't understand why there isn't a universal control scheme with X for reload and everything else standard. You'd think with Halo 2 being the focus of the collection, they'd have a universal scheme that mimics default Halo 2 controls...
 

TRI Mike

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Last night I was playing the Gravemind mission on H2A, just after the Elites and Brutes start shooting at each other I got hungry, paused, put the XBO on Stand-By and went to eat. When I came back the game crashed and when I tried to resume from the main menu it loaded where I was but with a black screen, tried to walk around to get myself killed but loading a checkpoint didn't fix it.

Now I have to start the whole mission again. Nice.
 

Bsigg12

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Last night I was playing the Gravemind mission on H2A, just after the Elites and Brutes start shooting at each other I got hungry, paused, put the XBO on Stand-By and went to eat. When I came back the game crashed and when I tried to resume from the main menu it loaded where I was but with a black screen, tried to walk around to get myself killed but loading a checkpoint didn't fix it.

Now I have to start the whole mission again. Nice.

If you switch graphics, it should have fixed it. There seems to be a bug where one of the engines doesn't initialize when the console comes out of standby on Instant On mode and by switching, it fixes it.
 

Sephzilla

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I don't understand why there isn't a universal control scheme with X for reload and everything else standard. You'd think with Halo 2 being the focus of the collection, they'd have a universal scheme that mimics default Halo 2 controls...

Yeah, I don't understand why there isn't a universal control scheme that uses the CE/Halo 2 default mappings.
 

Gaz_RB

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I just want to point out that I just got this game and it's been pretty much perfect. I know that its not working for most people but it at least has the capability to work well. My only problem is that I have to send back my xbox because the disk drive is making funny sounds that I don't trust.

lol... watch out or that untrustworthy disc drive is going to steal your games.
 

EagleEyes

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Last night I was playing the Gravemind mission on H2A, just after the Elites and Brutes start shooting at each other I got hungry, paused, put the XBO on Stand-By and went to eat. When I came back the game crashed and when I tried to resume from the main menu it loaded where I was but with a black screen, tried to walk around to get myself killed but loading a checkpoint didn't fix it.

Now I have to start the whole mission again. Nice.
Yeah i've gotten the black screen trying to load up a save point in a mission. So disheartening to have to start over. As much as I love Halo and wanted to play this collection this game should have stayed in the oven for another few months. It just seems to be another high profile game that had to meet a launch deadline and it just wasn't finished.
 
It's improved for me personally, but as far as I've heard, has not for others. Personally, it takes about 3-4 minutes end to end for me to get into a match. Teams are still one-sided some of the time, but overall MM is working a bit better.

Personally, matchmaking is working better most of the time. But I believe that is to the detriment of overall match quality. I have seen overall connection quality diminish over the past couple of updates. It seems they have put search times ahead of connection quality in an attempt to get people into matches quicker. I hope that this is resolved quickly.
 
I just played the Library this morning with the Anniversary graphics and it was much better than I remember it being. I actually don't hate it anymore! LOL
 

TRI Mike

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If you switch graphics, it should have fixed it. There seems to be a bug where one of the engines doesn't initialize when the console comes out of standby on Instant On mode and by switching, it fixes it.

Dammit, I didn't think about that. I should've tried. Thanks anyway.
 
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