I was looking some history facts..wasnt the arabs the last people that conquered that lands? Herod>roman empire (judea) > arabs (then the Christians tryed with the crusades to eliminate the arabs)
British Empire defeated the Ottoman Empire in WW1 and drove them out:
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Yeah, it's a city. Same as Jenin on the West Bank.
Except with more war tunnels, less infrastructure, and more hate.
Ya lost me on the undisputable daily war crime thing
so you choose to just ignore the clear evidence being shown on a daily basis?
so you think killing children is a good solution?
You sound like a clueless idealist
I'm Israeli. There's zero chance you have Israeli friends who denounce the IDF, unless they are Israeli-Arabs which will also pop your other argument I assume that Israel is an apartheid state.
Israel does not directly kill children like Hamas did. Israel gave the people of North Gaza two weeks to evacuate, and is giving them humanitarian aid in the south of Gaza. It's an hour drive. We told them to get tf out every day because we're coming to destroy Hamas, which will help Gaza more than ever.
IDF has been at minimizing collateral damage since day 1. There are no 'war crimes' as they've always had the right to defend against Palestine occupants/Hamas in Gaza because the land belongs to Israel.
Killing children is not a solution but the Palestinians in Gaza and Hamas see no problem with it, as does Hamas not actually care about their people under their control as they allow endless suffering or their people because they have a single track state of mind to 'Kill All Jews At Any Cost.' You also make it sound like no Israeli children were ever harmed from their drunk asshole neighbors shooting rockets indiscriminately at any time on any day because, you know, 'You've got to kill those Jews no matter what.'. So yeah, Hamas and anyone who supports them can take a red hot poker up the ass, Gaddafi style, all the while knowing your rectal bacteria have higher order thoughts than their host organism.
Well you must be shocked then as I have had similar conversations with not just one or two but THREE purely Israeli friends/friends of family who are against Netenyahu and the IDF, of course I have friends over there who aren't against the IDF but are still against Netenyahu.
Both sides have directly killed children, Hamas have very likely killed multiple children and families in their barbaric attack on October 7th, just like how Israel have directly killed children with their bombings on areas with no direct relation to Hamas, I am not talking about the first major hospital as the evidence on both sides of the argument surrounding who did it are far too muddled for me to jump to a conclusion on but the recent bombing on the refugee site was something that was planned through and acted upon, I believe IDF spokespeople when they say the location contained multiple Hamas individuals, but I also believe that there was a better way of getting to them without killing innocents and chalking it up to crossfire.
no, you're not, you're a useful idiot. Given Hamas's cruelty a compassionate human being would want a swift and decisive victory from Israel as that is the only way Hamas's evil ends.
Crazy how you guys could erase the Gaza Strip from the map in the blink of an eye, but people believe you want genocide
IDF have not been minimizing collateral damage at all, most of the dead that you say they were "defending themselves" against? innocent children and women who had no say in this matter and have not done anything in this conflict to deserve any pain brought upon them, just like the innocents brutally murdered by Hamas back on Oct 7th. I am not even getting involved on the whole land belonging to who bit as that isn't the important part right now, it is about finding peace and ending bloodshed on EITHER side.
1. Ignoring the countless times I have mentioned and dennounced what happened on Oct 7th?
Again with the conspiracy theories???? Why would I have alts? who the fuck is MHK, do you mean that Kojima fella who went MIA? I can happily prove to any mod who I am and they know who I am through emails signed up with and probable IP addresses they see on their servers, so please try again buddy, maybe you'll get closer to reality next attempt.
These friends are like your alts. They only exist one place...
Here we go with "but, but both sides." You could have saved all that effort to just write: going to pick up a flag, blame Israel and suggest ceasefire. This cheap tactic is easy enough to spot as the latest NYT article.
I'm done here. You're warped. Brain washed is not even authentic enough to be charmed.
Calling someone warped whilst making up insane conspiracy theories in your head about who I say I am....
Hamas is firing from positions that put Palestinian lives directly in jeopardy. On purpose. If Israel chooses not to fire back because women and children will die, Hamas gets to wage war with impunity and fire rockets forever. If Israel fires back, women and children will die which is useful for Hamas, but at least there will no longer be rockets fired from those now destroyed positions.
The only option I could think of is the ground operation option that I have cited already, but I am no war general or a diplomat so I know those options are harder to bring to life than optimistically offering them up in conversation.
Understatement of the year
I would value an actual conversation rather than petty drive-by posts mate, but you do you I suppose.
You're explaining how war works to a wall. Next response you get will be several paragraphs on how Israelis dislike Netanyahu, the IDF are responsible for war crimes and how Israel needs to ceasefire. But, now I'm giving too much credit to a wall. Walls don't listen.
Well, to say the least someone was listening that 30-seconds were able to be recovered. The big news agencies, I'd imagine in most larger Western nations have a list of 'do's & 'don'ts' along with a guideline on substition words. It's censoring history but...not the first time this has happened. Certainly is more widespread though which is disturbing.
You want to send an army, without air/artillery support, into a terrorist infested city? And you don't see a problem with that?
The warnings included declaring war on Hamas, broadcasting their intentions on TV to the world, sending mass texts into Gaza and plastering the strip from the air with leaflets telling them what was about to happen, all whilst giving them 2 weeks to move or prepare
Here's the thing, the idf soldiers value their own lives more than gaza 'innocents'. Going into gaza while the hamas is surrounding you in ALL directions above and below is going to be close to suicide. They need to soften up the land before invading. Bombarding known bases and levelling high rise makeshift bunkers is the best way.
You known what else Israeli did in 2005? they left Palestinians a thriving flower industry worth something nuts like half a billion dollars and you know what hamas promptly did? Burn the greenhouses
Once they get rid of their "Ethics" dept.
