Fancy Clown
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They're gonna air the remainder of the season, right?
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Hannibal S3 |OT| Man Destroys God. Hannibal Eats Man. Hannibal Inherits The Earth.
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BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
There is only one way for me to forgive the NBC execs.
I have to eat them.
I have to eat them.
Interesting that they did that this quick into the season.
Wife and me are big fans but also felt that the pacing was too indulgent in the first episodes.
A bit like Fargo were I felt that too much freedom, too many episodes, lead to a bit of "useless" airtime.
The artsy fartsy vs procedural balance was tipped a bit too much.
Wife and me are big fans but also felt that the pacing was too indulgent in the first episodes.
A bit like Fargo were I felt that too much freedom, too many episodes, lead to a bit of "useless" airtime.
The artsy fartsy vs procedural balance was tipped a bit too much.
Admiral Woofington
Member
it is guaranfuckingteed Netflix or somebody else will throw money to pick it up. Netflix seems like a prime candidate. They've rescued other shows.
For anyone in the LA area on July 23, there's going to be a live screening of Episode 8
with Bryan Fuller.
http://www.lacma.org/event/evening#.VYia73XxDTo.twitter
The Great Red Dragon
http://www.lacma.org/event/evening#.VYia73XxDTo.twitter
Because of the Amazon exclusive screaming deal, I seriously doubt Netflix will pick it up. The rights NBC dropped are basically just for the US, so Netflix would have to buy out Amazon just to get it for the US audience. If it gets picked up by someone else, they can get the international rights regardless so they still benefit.
Assuming there is no rights issues absolutely preventing Season 4, Amazon seems like a really good bet for a pickup. They're quickly ramping up their original content and already have a streaming deal in the US in place. It's a win win for them.
Future Foundation
Member
Yeah, they'll finish out Season Three.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
This legit upsets me.
YesNOnoNOYes
Member
gaaaaaaaaaaaah nooooooo
why is it cancelled ;____;
sigh
why is it cancelled ;____;
sigh
Sweeney Tom
Banned
Sad but expected. Even if picked up, I expect next year to be the last or second-to-last at best. We need to enjoy the rest of the ride, friends. It isn't lasting much longer.
Given how much content is left, would the show really need more than 2 seasons? Give Fuller 1 season for a Silence style story and 1 season for Hannibal/an original wrap up and we're good. It's not like they're going to (or should) do a full season of Hannibal Rising.
Anton Sugar
Member
Two more seasons would be plenty to cover it all, for sure, and I think Fuller knows that, too--he had originally planned out 7 seasons, but has already condensed that timeline and made it shorter. Five seasons would still fill out his full vision.
Assuming he had planned the same story, I'm kind of glad he shortened it. Adding a ton of stuff to fluff out these current seasons would really hurt the show.
Candeldandel
Member
Bryan can make anything work, he's just that good.
Really sucks to hear this news. But good on NBC for giving us three seasons despite the abysmal ratings. I think the truth is the general public isn't interested in this type of show. I've tried to get a lot of people to watch it but they always seem to brush it off for whatever reason.
My hope is that S3 at least has a somewhat satisfying conclusion, if it is indeed the last we're going to get of the show.
My hope is that S3 at least has a somewhat satisfying conclusion, if it is indeed the last we're going to get of the show.
Admiral Woofington
Member
I have prime too. Works for me.
You know what else needed more seasons? Pushing Daisies. :'''(
still hurts
Candeldandel
Member
No kidding :'(
VistraNorrez
Member
Hoping they make a deal and soon for a 4th season somewhere. I know we've always taken for granted that someone else would pick it up, but I don't like hanging on a thread right now.
CreeperBlocks
Banned
So.. is Season Three Going to be the end of the Will and Hannibal Arc?
Anton Sugar
Member
streetsahead123
Banned
EW says this show only cost NBC $185,000 an episode for season 3. So I can only assume S4 hasn't been announced yet because they're fielding through hundreds of offers.
Miss.Selfdestruct
Member
Thanks! Will try to score a ticket on Thursday. If someone can hook me up earlier, it would be appreciated <3
One can dream...
Assuming Gaumont will give a similar deal to whoever steps up, Netflix no longer sounds at that price, they could probably buy out Amazon and still basically be getting free money.
Amazon is still the best bet. No way they would turn that offer down.
Admiral Woofington
Member
http://twibbon.com/support/savehannibal/twitter
Perhaps salvation is inevitable but I don't want to take that chance.
streetsahead123
Banned
Amazon was even interested in picking Hannibal up two years ago if NBC cancelled it after season 1, before they even had streaming rights.
Weapxn
Mikkelsexual
Is that true? That sounds so...inexpensive. And the show looks so stunning. I knew it didn't cost TOO much to make, but damn.
I also wonder about the validity of that number because didn't season three go over budget? I vaguely remember Bryan Fuller saying that he fought with NBC this time around to get what he wanted. Is $185,000 before or after that initial budget?
Apologies if this sounds argumentative or whatever. I'm just legitimately interested. I'm a theater guy and know next to nothing about TV/film production.
It wasn't that cheap to make, it was cheap to license. Gaumont, an international production company, pays to make the show. NBC and other networks just pay to air it. Also, it's an absurdly low amount.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Fuck I was pretty shocked to hear about this so suddenly. I'm hopeful it goes to Amazon, though.
Weapxn
Mikkelsexual
Ohh. That's the licensing fee that NBC pays, not the production budget? That makes more sense. I guess.
petethepanda
Member
Finally watched last week's. What a strange episode, direction felt very off for the series.
beat
Member
At all times, for all shows, the networks pay a license fee that's below per-episode costs. It's usually more like 60%, I think (???), of costs. The studio offers this deal because it will make up the rest on the back end - syndication rights, etc.
Sometimes when a show is desperate to make syndication numbers, the studio offers a huge discount. (probably most notoriously, Sony on the 'Til Death show?) Hannibal's international financing might also have made such a discount possible.
(So why don't shows always get squeezed to offer a license fee of practically nothing? Because if a show can't maintain acceptable ratings on first-run, their syndication sales will be dreadful too.)
That said, I gather Hannibal was always run on a pretty tight budget. I remember seeing behind-the-scenes stills of that ep last year with the corpse-in-a-horse stuff, and while it looked very convincing in the show -- before the post-production VFX, it looked like a weird cheap furry sleeping bag.
$185k/episode is crazy low, though. I think FX gives Louie $300K per episode and that's so cheap that's why that show gets little network interference.
At this point, I'm just waiting for Red Dragon to start. I like the way Fuller seems to be creating his own origin for Hannibal, but he isn't really presenting it in a way that works. It's often obfuscation for the sake of it, which is very different than the way the series normally operates.
Once the main story kicks in gear, I'm sure the show will be back in full form.
Baldwin_the_First
Member
I just heard the news. How is that possible?? It's one of the greatest show on TV since it aired in 2013!
Admiral Woofington
Member
Quality and cult following online =/= viewer ratings.
Of course there are exceptions like Breaking Bad.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
And in the case of Breaking Bad, big ratings didn't come until the final half of the final season.
NBC just shot themselves in the foot.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about the culinary arts (I'm an expert), but cannibalism and inflicting massive psychological trauma are huge parts of it. It's not like it is with Gordon Ramsay where you can become successful by simply being an asshole. If you all you can do is yell at your contestants, they will just cry for a bit on camera and get over it. And to top it all off, he's not even a closeted cannibal.
What this means is Fannibals and connoisseurs of prestige television, after hearing about this, are not going to want to watch any other shows about cannibals, nor will they watch anything on NBC. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but NBC has alienated an entire market with this move.
NBC, publicly apologize and uncancel Hannibal or you can kiss your business goodbye.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about the culinary arts (I'm an expert), but cannibalism and inflicting massive psychological trauma are huge parts of it. It's not like it is with Gordon Ramsay where you can become successful by simply being an asshole. If you all you can do is yell at your contestants, they will just cry for a bit on camera and get over it. And to top it all off, he's not even a closeted cannibal.
What this means is Fannibals and connoisseurs of prestige television, after hearing about this, are not going to want to watch any other shows about cannibals, nor will they watch anything on NBC. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but NBC has alienated an entire market with this move.
NBC, publicly apologize and uncancel Hannibal or you can kiss your business goodbye.
Baldwin_the_First
Member
Damnit!
shacklesmcgee
Member
OMG YOU GUYS 
This really sucks. I really thought NBC was totally behind it even with the low ratings because of the prestige and low cost. Guess I was wrong.
I truly hope FX or AMC or someone picks it up. Sounds like Amazon makes the most sense but I prefer Netflix over Prime and don't feel like having yet another subscription.
Has there been anything said as far as whether the remaining episodes for this season will definitely all air?
I truly hope FX or AMC or someone picks it up. Sounds like Amazon makes the most sense but I prefer Netflix over Prime and don't feel like having yet another subscription.
Has there been anything said as far as whether the remaining episodes for this season will definitely all air?
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