Bobby Roberts
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Chilton is a fucking treasure, no doubt, but you can't overuse him. He's the best seasoning there is, but you can't make seasoning one of your main courses.
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Hannibal S3 |OT| Man Destroys God. Hannibal Eats Man. Hannibal Inherits The Earth.
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*If Chilton dies anytime soon, I may end up not watching the show anymore. The brevity and comedic relief he brings is pricelesss, especially when Scott Thompson and Aaron Abrams not around. Speaking of which: when will we see them this season? During the Red Dragon portion?
*exaggeration
*exaggeration
Anton Sugar
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She gave Alana some...looks. Episode 6 will, after all, be inspired by Bound:
How much you wanna bet (speculation)
Alana and Margot start a relationship and scheme to rid Margot of Mason? OR, of course, they could be scheming over Hannibal's demise/capture.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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With sexy results.
Anton Sugar
Member
Quality episode, they really really like using already used footage this season, about 5-10 minutes of each episode seems to be stuff we've already seen. Idk if it's the NBC broadcasts but the scenes set inside dark rooms or night outside have been hard to make out this season, this episode was better but a few scenes were very dark.
I'm liking the new Verger actor, the performance definitely isn't as loud and energetic as Pitt was which I don't mind.
I'm liking the new Verger actor, the performance definitely isn't as loud and energetic as Pitt was which I don't mind.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
Dolarhyde is going to be unveiled at SDCC.
I want to get in, but fuck waiting in the Hall H line.
I want to get in, but fuck waiting in the Hall H line.
it's tough to be loud and energetic when you're paralyzed from the waist down. I'd bet that'd be a reason for Pitt to leave. he seems to like to be physical with all his characters and that'd be one hell of a hindrance for an actor like that.
GiantBreadbug
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New Mason is fine, but he's trying way too hard on the voice I think. Still an excellent replacement, though.
Jex
Member
Not everything should follow a boring, conventional template. I'm sure they had a number of good reasons for structuring the story in this manner, beyond the notion of 'suspense'.
I feel like the most important thing that it does is give the audience the ability to be completely enraptured in the worlds of the major characters, firstly with Hannibal and Bedelia and then with Will Graham. The end of the second season was extremely...raw. Continuing straight from that emotional climax would leave the viewer too wrapped up in that element of the story rather than engaging with the characters themselves.
I really enjoyed that directorial choice. It truly gave the impression that Chilton was trying to court them all, when of course who he truly wishes to court is Hannibal.
Of course, the other really obvious choice was to ensure that Jack and Will never looked at each other directly.
I see that these are the two very different sides of the argument. Not to reiterate what I've said above, but I consider it far more interesting and powerful to observe the aftermath of the event without actually knowing the fine details.
For Bedelia and Hannibal, dwelling on those events is irrelevant. For Will, he's still living in some kind of post-death / dreamlike state.
We don't actually need to see the events to understand their consequences.
I'm really lost as to why Will really likes Hannibal now. Last season he just went in so deep, because he had to, to figure out Hannibal. I get that he got a bit lost there and started to get confused about Hannibal, but it seems a bit unbelievable to me that he would actually consider Hannibal a friend after he had time to collect himself. Feel like I missed something that made Will like Hannibal enough for this.
Leona Lewis
Banned
blueteainfusion
Member
My theory is this: in order to seduce Hannibal in back half of S2, Will had to fake his feelings convincingly enough for Lecter to believe them to be true. Unfortunately, Hannibal's charm, their mutual understanding and that pesky empathy disorder that Will has that caused him to be especially attuned to Hannibal's feelings for him - it all piled up to result in hell of a confusion. Basically, the bait was eaten in the process and Will got in too deep. He fell in love too.
Pair it with the guilt over Abigail: "If only if I agreed to flee with him, no one had to die". And this is true, if only Will had taken Lecter on his offer during their Last Supper, only his soul would be lost, but Jack and Alana would be okay (mostly anyway) and Abigail would be spared. So even if he kind of felt tempted to go before Jack's plan went to hell, in hindsight, he wishes he did this even more now.
In conclusion: Will is broken, probably beyond repair. He loves the monster and love isn't rational. It will take time to get over Hannibal for him, provided he (or either of them) live that long.
Yeah, they did, what I meant to say was this lastest episode felt more like what I've come to expect from the show based on the first two seasons. The pacing was a lot quicker and there was a lot more information being dished out. The first three episodes definitely had substance in terms of the characters though.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
I like Joe Anderson's Mason. As others have said, it's a little closer to Oldman's Mason, which was one of the few things from Hannibal that could/should be saved. It's not the Joker-y portrayal that Pitt was doing, but I think having the madness dulled/subdued a little isn't necessarily a bad thing considering what happened to him.
Tim the Wiz
Banned
The close-up on Alana's face while she talks about Old Testament vengeance? Good Lord, that was good.
The show was cancelled because of the numbers, not because of what the writers did? Anyway, it seems that episode 4 paved the path for this season. You now know what everyone wants.
Anton Sugar
Member
Hannibal FB just posted this. Is this a photo from the set of the last episode, just photoshopped/makeup'd to make them look young, or an actual wedding photo? If it's the actual wedding photo, did they use her real wedding dress in the show? Looks the same.
I really liked that scene. I guess it's cheating since they're actually married but they had that little shine in their eyes. Bella and Jack's relationship became a wonderfully realistic and "positive" look at love and death versus the rest of the show.
I really liked that scene. I guess it's cheating since they're actually married but they had that little shine in their eyes. Bella and Jack's relationship became a wonderfully realistic and "positive" look at love and death versus the rest of the show.
DarkJediKnight
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Hannibal FB just posted this. Is this a photo from the set of the last episode, just photoshopped/makeup'd to make them look young, or an actual wedding photo? If it's the actual wedding photo, did they use her real wedding dress in the show? Looks the same.
I really liked that scene. I guess it's cheating since they're actually married but they had that little shine in their eyes. Bella and Jack's relationship became a wonderfully realistic and "positive" look at love and death versus the rest of the show.
They've been married since 2002. Likely real.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Hannibal FB just posted this. Is this a photo from the set of the last episode, just photoshopped/makeup'd to make them look young, or an actual wedding photo? If it's the actual wedding photo, did they use her real wedding dress in the show? Looks the same.
I really liked that scene. I guess it's cheating since they're actually married but they had that little shine in their eyes. Bella and Jack's relationship became a wonderfully realistic and "positive" look at love and death versus the rest of the show.
Adorable.
Hannibal FB just posted this. Is this a photo from the set of the last episode, just photoshopped/makeup'd to make them look young, or an actual wedding photo? If it's the actual wedding photo, did they use her real wedding dress in the show? Looks the same.
I really liked that scene. I guess it's cheating since they're actually married but they had that little shine in their eyes. Bella and Jack's relationship became a wonderfully realistic and "positive" look at love and death versus the rest of the show.
That looks like the Zoe Washburne I fell for.
Candeldandel
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Hannibal FB just posted this. Is this a photo from the set of the last episode, just photoshopped/makeup'd to make them look young, or an actual wedding photo? If it's the actual wedding photo, did they use her real wedding dress in the show? Looks the same.
I really liked that scene. I guess it's cheating since they're actually married but they had that little shine in their eyes. Bella and Jack's relationship became a wonderfully realistic and "positive" look at love and death versus the rest of the show.
I saw this earlier, they're so sweet!! <3
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More on Verger:
We've seen shots of the eel several times, but then there's creepy AF Cordell...maybe a hybrid? Shove an eel down his throat and toss him into the pig pit?
http://deadline.com/2015/07/hannibal-cast-released-new-home-1201467144/
I guess this show is dead for real now.
I guess this show is dead for real now.
VistraNorrez
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I don't think it's dead because we already know a potential seasons 4 would be even shorter. And considering how fast they shoot, it wouldn't be that much different than a normal film shoot. It's also something that doesn't need to be shot right away. They could take a little time off. I think it really depends on how much Fuller and the producers wants to fight for it.
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Deleted member 30609
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I have no idea what's going on this season. They must have known this was the last season ahead of time. This isn't the sort of thing you write expecting a fourth season on network TV.
Mr. Pointy
Member
Paging Dr. ivysaur...
Candeldandel
Member
I'm just gonna wait to be devastated until Bryan says for sure it's over. /twiddles thumbs
Yup, that's what happens when you premiere it so late. Same thing happened to The Whispers.
It's just way too complicated for someone to pick up at this point. I don't see why anyone would bother :-(
No, not at all. All actors are under contract as long as the show is on the air until a certain time. If the show is renewed, your option is "picked up" for another (this can get more complicated with long running shows, but in general, yeah). Once the options on the cast lapse, it's basically impossible for the show to go anywhere else, since the cast is free to do whatever they like now without having to be in first position on Hannibal.
Unfortunately, the options just happened to lapse very soon after NBC canceled it, basically making it a herculean task for any deal to be put into place. And since Amazon hasn't scooped it up yet, I doubt they're interested, and I doubt any linear networks would be either since I can really only see a life for it on streaming.
The One Who Knocks
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I would consider that a knell for the show really. Had somebody picked up the show prior it would have been a much easier prospect to revive it, and I imagine knowledge that these would expire very shortly would have been made clear in any negotiations. If anybody was going to have picked it up they would have already done so prior to these expiring so it would be much easier from an organisational point of view. I think the show is done.
Honestly, between Fuller's comments about what the season would deal with, and the possibility that it would be a much shorter season, combined with where the show will be ending, I'm not too unhappy with the loss. It's a miracle we got to here anyway.
I think it will end in a satisfactory manner. I wouldn't have minded if either S1's or S2's finale had been the series finale to be honest.
Leona Lewis
Banned
Um, that's not good news.
How involved is Fuller in these types of negotiations? He's seemed rather resigned from the moment the NBC news broke, which doesn't exactly fill me with confidence.
Not that he needs to be crying out in the streets or anything, but fuller plz
How involved is Fuller in these types of negotiations? He's seemed rather resigned from the moment the NBC news broke, which doesn't exactly fill me with confidence.
Not that he needs to be crying out in the streets or anything, but fuller plz
He can pitch story things to make it sound more palatable to new distribution partners but I imagine Gaumont is doing the bulk of the negotiations since it's their show.
dead souls
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This is the what makes me assume it's most likely dead. With it hitting a 0.4 last week I can't imagine any cable channel would pick it up, since they know the ratings would almost certainly drop with the move and it's already just too damn low.
Sweeney Tom
Banned
Amazon's the only station that could realistically save it with their exclusive streaming deal. If they haven't announced they are yet, it's because they don't want to. And if they don't want to, that's it.
Fuller's already focused on American Gods for the rest of the year, and Fishburne just signed on to the Roots remake. Everybody's already moving on. It sucks, yes, but maybe we should try to too and just enjoy these last 9 episodes while we can.
Fuller's already focused on American Gods for the rest of the year, and Fishburne just signed on to the Roots remake. Everybody's already moving on. It sucks, yes, but maybe we should try to too and just enjoy these last 9 episodes while we can.
dead souls
Member
How can I enjoy it when Rihanna already spoiled the series finale?
Sweeney Tom
Banned
Fuller said a year or two ago that they get such regular bad ratings that they've just went ahead and tried to make each season finale seem like it could be a finale if the show was cancelled before or shortly after it aired.
There was a genuine chance last season's finale could have been the ending to the last Hannibal episode. As long as this season's finale is even less of a downer, it should be a great end in comparison.
Leona Lewis
Banned
I don't think he's serious when he says that.
I mean, how on earth is it a fitting series finale for Will to be imprisoned for Hannibal's crimes or for all the main characters to be dead/not dead?
I'm sure the show won't end this season with a nice, neat bow, but hopefully it leaves fewer threads hanging than the prior finales.
In Anderson's defense, Pitt got to walk around with full use of his countenance and body, while Anderson is in a wheelchair with an inch of prosthetics over his face. Anderson is forced to act through a pinhole, essentially only using his voice. I don't envision Pitt being able to do much more (and who knows, that could have been part of his rationale for bailing).
Anton Sugar
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He definitely meant it--he said the same thing at the Austin TV fest a few weeks ago. He said it's been interesting, because they basically have to tear down and restart each season, in a lot of ways.
Regardless, really sad news. I kinda agree--I thought this would be picked up almost immediately by some other service. Amazon passing sounds like a death knell.
Jenn M. was right all along!!
Agreed about the first season, but I think Will and Jack finally catching Hannibal only to be completely slaughtered and Hannibal escape scot-free in S2 is actually a pretty good series finale.
Agreed about the first season, but I think Will and Jack finally catching Hannibal only to be completely slaughtered and Hannibal escape scot-free in S2 is actually a pretty good series finale.
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