SweetTooth
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Poll consist of PS fans, Nintendo fans, Xbox fans
The latter two is trying their hardest to paint current Sony and PS5 as bad.
If voters are visible, my point will stand clearly
It means nothing
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Has the PS5 already cemented itself as the worst Playstation generation in history?
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Poll consist of PS fans, Nintendo fans, Xbox fans
The latter two is trying their hardest to paint current Sony and PS5 as bad.
If voters are visible, my point will stand clearly
It means nothing
Schmendrick
Member
first party output wise this is definitely the bottom of the barrel from the gens I´ve participated in (2-5)
Ps5 is a very good console. Its just that Sony higher ups especialy from the west made a bad decision to focus on gaas and live service and worse some are woke infested. They wasted some talented studios like bend and blue point. We could have great single player games from them if the Sony west management made a dumb decision.
Physiognomonics
Member
Yes. All the great games we got on PS5 (a handful, really) were greenlited by the previous Playstation executives and were all AA-ish games. The rest of the AAA or GAAS games, costing like 95% of their investment, have been either boring or forgetful. People will still play AstroBot, GT7 (AAA but a PS4 game) or Demon's Souls or they'll want sequel of Returnal. Who will want to play again GoW Ragnarok / Horizon in 10 years ? Who will want a sequel to Concord or similar industry checked product?
Playstation has destroyed itself in 4 years. And with their current path there is no turning back. Developing their games on PC is already impacting the quality of their games. Guerrilla are already not using the Playstation hardware to its fullest and favoring doing cross-gen development for PS4 then PC. It can't be avoided. Soon they'll develop their AA games in order to grow their renting service library, following MS path to produce low quality content for the sake of making content.
Playstation has destroyed itself in 4 years. And with their current path there is no turning back. Developing their games on PC is already impacting the quality of their games. Guerrilla are already not using the Playstation hardware to its fullest and favoring doing cross-gen development for PS4 then PC. It can't be avoided. Soon they'll develop their AA games in order to grow their renting service library, following MS path to produce low quality content for the sake of making content.
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Rawbutt Jellybean
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Looking like it since they dug such a hole with all this GaaS crap. Could have just had 1-2 studios working on reviving Killzone or Socom and everyone else on lower budget AA games to fill out the library. Trying to develop a dozen GaaS titles in one gen was clearly not the play.
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DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
No, people are voting if this generation is Sony's worst. What are your thoughts?
Your level of defence is admirable.
Cakeboxer
Gold Member
PS2>>>>PS1>PS3>>>PS4>PS5
PS5 is not over and maybe there will be more good games like Astrobot. But for now it's the worst. Price raises for games and PS+, Pro model double the price of base PS4 model while PS4 Pro was just 100 Euro more, remaster, remaster, remaster, woke, woke, woke, wasted money and time for GaaS failures and cancellations, Horizon ip fetish, worse successors of 3 important ips, artificial shortage of disc drives, PS4 controllers not working with PS5 games on PS5.
PS5 is not over and maybe there will be more good games like Astrobot. But for now it's the worst. Price raises for games and PS+, Pro model double the price of base PS4 model while PS4 Pro was just 100 Euro more, remaster, remaster, remaster, woke, woke, woke, wasted money and time for GaaS failures and cancellations, Horizon ip fetish, worse successors of 3 important ips, artificial shortage of disc drives, PS4 controllers not working with PS5 games on PS5.
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Lambogenie
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I would 100% rather have an official analogue made PS2 Slim Remaster with disc and digital store (and PS1 support) than a PS5...
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
I'm a PS fan and this has clealry been the worst generation for PS exclusive games.
This is because games now take too long to develop. We're almost 5 years into this generation and some Sony studios haven't released a single game yet.
This isn't a Sony issue. This is a problem throughout the industry, but it does mean this has been a forgettable generation for Sony.
Mibu no ookami
Demoted Member® Pro™
Because this generation isn't over yet...
Next few years look dreadful? Sony made studios build live service?
You have no idea what games are coming in the next few years. You had no idea Astro Bot was coming last year. The narrative that Sony makes studios do things is a telltale sign of bias.
Pretending like single player games don't get canceled or that assets aren't reclaimed from other projects... I've gone back and forth with you many times, but it's kind of clear what you're doing these days.
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TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Cope levels are off the charts here.
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Radical_3d
Member
This is a very Sony centric forum. The Americans haven’t woke up yet. This is Sonyland speaking. I’m a rabid Sony fanboy. This generation suck ASS (I had a SX and it’s not better and PC is being saved for things like Mech Engineer).
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Blood Borne
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PS2>PS1>PS3>PS4>PS5.
Anyone who disagrees is a retard.
Anyone who disagrees is a retard.
Onironauta
Member
Sony's first party output on PS3 clearly destroys the current gen. Other people have already listed tons of great games already.
Naughy Dog released 4 games on that gen, Insomniac at least 8 (some of them were smaller games, but still!).
Many PS3 games might have had bad framerates, but the graphics jump from PS2 era was incredible. Now you can barely tell apart PS4 and PS5 games.
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The console itself is great. Even the horrible design has grown on me. Sony's first party support is severely lacking so far. But at least they're committed to it, while Xbox just...stops and allows its console to fade into the history books.
I'm more worried about the PS6, without any direct competition for Sony. They'll be able to charge more to deliver less.
I'm more worried about the PS6, without any direct competition for Sony. They'll be able to charge more to deliver less.
The market says PS3 was the worst. Every other PlayStation has sold or is trending to sell over 100 million.
PS3 was so bad that it wiped out all the profits from PS1 and 2 (the latter literally the most sold console ever) and if not for the late rally, had Sony seriously considering moving away from PlayStation.
PS3 was so bad that it wiped out all the profits from PS1 and 2 (the latter literally the most sold console ever) and if not for the late rally, had Sony seriously considering moving away from PlayStation.
SweetTooth
Gold Member
I was quoted by the usual suspects 
PS3 was worst gen for Sony financially and for PS fans due to:
(Negatives)
*Getting worst multiplat (mostly)
*Limited Network functionality (No party chat, hello Nintendo)
*PSN outage.
(Positives)
*Sony corrected course later half of the gen.
*Stream of good 1P games
Mind you Sony's worst PS3 are still miles ahead of majority of Nintendo, Sega and Microsoft efforts.
With PS5 we got the following:
(Positives)
* Most Powerful base console (Best multiplat)
* Most powerful midgen.
*Rubust and balanced system with minimal loading.
*Best online and sharing functionality.
*Best Controller features and ergonomics.
*Killed Xbox
(Negatives)
* The woke direction of ND games.
(Also forget a pole of biased nerds, the market has decided and PS5 is on the way to sell 100m...Switch 2 has alot to catch up to)
PS3 was worst gen for Sony financially and for PS fans due to:
(Negatives)
*Getting worst multiplat (mostly)
*Limited Network functionality (No party chat, hello Nintendo
)*PSN outage.
(Positives)
*Sony corrected course later half of the gen.
*Stream of good 1P games
Mind you Sony's worst PS3 are still miles ahead of majority of Nintendo, Sega and Microsoft efforts.
With PS5 we got the following:
(Positives)
* Most Powerful base console (Best multiplat)
* Most powerful midgen.
*Rubust and balanced system with minimal loading.
*Best online and sharing functionality.
*Best Controller features and ergonomics.
*Killed Xbox
(Negatives)
* The woke direction of ND games.
(Also forget a pole of biased nerds, the market has decided and PS5 is on the way to sell 100m...Switch 2 has alot to catch up to
)
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Bojji
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Bend Studio - 6 years wasted
Bluepoint Games - 4 years wasted
Firesprite - canceled GaaS games
Guerrilla Games - making Horizon 3 probably
Haven Studios - Fairgame$
Housemarque - ?
Insomniac Games - Wolverine, SM3
Malaysia Studio - support studio
Media Molecule - ?
Naughty Dog - Intergalactic, TLoU3? (in the future)
Nixxes Software - ports
Polyphony Digital - GT8?
San Diego Studio - MLB studio
San Mateo Studio - support
Santa Monica Studio - GOW next?
Sucker Punch Productions -GoY
Team Asobi - Astro Bot next?
Valkyrie Entertainment - support
Games that will come this year or 2026/2027
Games that will most likely be cross gen between PS5-PS6
So 5 games we know for sure will appear on PS5 in near future, one GaaS trash, one annual sport game, and three bigger games - GoY, Wolverine and Intergalactic.
sncvsrtoip
Gold Member
Only realy good thing in this generation is gt7 with psvr2
nial
Gold Member
What can be said about PC, exactly?
Radical_3d
Member
* Hardware
* Hardware
* Hardware
* Bloody online
* Hardware
* Worse prices in the future
ctrl + F: “games”. 0 results.
Fantastic generation, indeed. I’ll take Mirror’s Edge with frame drops and no AA over 4K 60 remakes and GaaS all day long, bud.
SweetTooth
Gold Member
Best multiplat are still games. And didn't give games focus because everything is releasing on PS5 .. we don't have MS or Nintendo struggles here at Sony
GHG
Member
It's not just about first party output though is it? It's the experience with the console as a whole throughout it's life cycle. People spend most of their time playing 3rd party games, and the reality is that throughout the PS3 era many 3rd party games skipped the console entirely and those that did arrive ran like ass. It was bad enough to the extent where most people were willing to switch over to the 360, and many people did exactly that early in the generation.
Yes, this generation the 1st party support has been lacking, and it's now well documented as to why that is, however they've also been fortunate enough in that what has released has been mostly great and the 3rd party support/partnerships have been excellent.
People talk about the PS2 generation being the best one - well here's the thing, that wasn't down to their 1st party. It was predominantly due to 3rd party and the fact that in general games ran well on the platform for the time.
Yes, someone having a different opinion from you means they are definitely trolling, waaaah. I don't even care that much about PS3 being worse than X360 in price and performance, what matters to me is that Sony delivered with games. Even the first half of PS3 gen was better than what we have now, and the second half had some of the best games ever made both first and third party. Who cares PS5 is good in terms of hardware when the software is lacking. And judging by the numerous GaaS titles being canceled, the second half of PS5 gen doesn't look that promising to me. But I still hope they can deliver something great.
SweetTooth
Gold Member
Dontkidyourselfjimmy
Member
PS1>PS2>PS3>PS4>PS5
Don't see them turning this generation around this late in the game but glad they are finally cancelling some of the gaas shite. Hopefully by the time PS6 arrives we should see the fruits of their labours.
Don't see them turning this generation around this late in the game but glad they are finally cancelling some of the gaas shite. Hopefully by the time PS6 arrives we should see the fruits of their labours.
GHG
Member
Well if people want to make this only about 1st party then there is a discussion to be had about this being the worst generation from that perspective, but that's not how the poll and OP reads.
But again, people have short memories and forget that the ps1 and PS2 were heavily reliant on 3rd party exclusives and partnerships.
Objectively, from a 1st party perspective alone, there's an argument to be had that the ps3 generation was the best (and a similar argument can be made regarding the PS4 generation), but that doesn't tell the whole story due to what I mentioned in my previous post.
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DenchDeckard
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Metal gear 4, Uncharted, last of us, resistance and resistance 3. Little big planet. Super Stardust HD, Demons souls, Warhawk online + so many more. PS3 was a banger console for Sony first party IP and output.
Definitely agree on third party as I played on XBox 360 for third party, there might be an argument there but Playstation has always been an exclusives box for me.
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nial
Gold Member
I think I've been noticing a pattern of poeple using the most retarded points ever known to men.
Aren't Horizon and GOW from the previous leadership, anyway? Isn't Astro Bot from the CURRENT leadership? You're not even making any fucking sense.
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Radical_3d
Member
Best multiplat are still games. And didn't give games focus because everything is releasing on PS5 .. we don't have MS or Nintendo struggles here at Sony
“I still don’t know what the games are.”
What’s been fantastic about this generation? EA is a lost cause. Ubisoft keeps doing the same game for several decades now. The only game Capcom has released for this generation only is a griffin hunt-survival sim. Konami died the previous generation. XBox lol. Bungie lost its edge in Reach. Chinese new_Unreal_Engine_5_project arrived to finalist of GOTY, the worst timeline. From Software had ONE idea in 2009. Square has forgotten what drove them to the heights of the 90s.
I guess that if you love FIFA and COD this gen is great. Great hardware on both teams for supporting your anual diarrhea of sequels.
GHG
Member
Like i said, toward the end on the generation after they realised how badly they fumbled the bag. They had no choice but to build out their 1st party studios to get games going for the console, because they realised 3rd party developers didn't want to fuck around with the difficult development environment. It was a shit show, particularly for the first 3-4 years.
I only got a PS3 in the last 2 years of the generation and felt like I missed out on absolutely nothing. The turning point was actually the network outage, after that they went in to overdrive.
Metal Gear 4 is a 3rd party game by the way.
Yeh but that's for you specifically, which comes as no surprise.
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Other than games that have been in development for some time like Wolverine, Intergalactic or Ghost of Yotei, what else can "save" the PS5? Whatever AAA game they start working on now is going to be a PS6 or cross-gen game.
Rawbutt Jellybean
Member
PS3 had a much bigger variety of games back then. It had something for everyone. PS5 has too many ubisoft clones and not enough else. They both had really slow starts when it comes to software output.
PS3 did run like ass but I at least felt a reason to turn it on more than a few times per year.
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The_Observer
Member
It’s the worst by far. The PS3 was infinitely better. The first couple years were embarassing, but around 2009 they started comig back big time which peaked during the PS4 years with the dreamteam. Then new management arrived and it’s a steep downhill since then.
PS5 is the first time I didn't buy a Playstation so yes the worst for me. Good exclusives have always been a factor as well as the wow factor of a new console and this one doesn't have much of either. I don't know how much Covid and diminishing returns on tech have played a part in this gen being the most underwhelming I've ever known.
GHG
Member
Elden Ring is the best game this generation. It's 3rd party. Baldurs Gate 3 is also up there, that's also 3rd party (which was incidentally also console exclusive for a while due to hardware difficulties/issues on other platforms).
The best new multiplayer game this gen is Helldivers 2, that's a 3rd party partnership.
The bottom line is, every big game this generation has been playable (or will be playable in due course) to a high standard on the PS5. If you happen to only own a PS5 you're missing out on nothing that you'd typically play in a console environment. That wasn't true of the PS3 generation.
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
By far the worst PlayStation generation for me. Honestly all I use it for is Astro Bot and Gran Turismo, and for my kids.
It might as well just be a Steam Box, it would have more value to me that way.
It might as well just be a Steam Box, it would have more value to me that way.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
While I some what agree with you, I had my PS3 since launch day and I loved it. Yes it had a slow start but resistance was a good blast and motorstorm was an incredible tech demo that you couldnt get on any other platform.
Then in 2007 I loved Ratchet and Clank tools of destruction, enjoyed Uncharted a lot, Little big Planet.
yeah, you know what. PS3 pissed on PS5 for first party output and the third party exclusives were better.
Radical_3d
Member
Kokoloko85
Member
If that makes you sleep better at night then yes.
It will be another PlayStation home console that sells over 100million.
Something Nintendo has only done once with a $200 wii. Sega and Xbox havent gotten close and neither has Nintendo apart from that. Let that sink in
It will be another PlayStation home console that sells over 100million.
Something Nintendo has only done once with a $200 wii. Sega and Xbox havent gotten close and neither has Nintendo apart from that. Let that sink in
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