Have you realized that we haven't seen a single beautiful/sexy female character in both Sony's and MS's shows??

What you think is beautiful was taught to you by those who were trying to sell a certain aesthetic when you were younger. Young people playing these new games will have a different perspective of beauty as the culture in entertainment changes.
This must be one of the biggest idiotic things I have ever read.
Are you telling me that the society is lecturing me on what my dong should be erected to?
Men have liked feminine features for years, big boobs included, it wasn't society or TV that told men what they had to like. Women grew boobs when humans acquired the bipede stance, because men were looking at their chest instead of their ass and so boobs grew to simulate a fake ass. It's evolution, and it has nothing to do with mainstream teaching stuff.

The female lead in Kena can be considered beautiful. I'm not really sure what the OP is getting at. Might need to step away from the computer and find some real women, if your thirst-meter is this full.
She's a child, not a woman...
 
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This is atypical sjw type resetera response.
Why do you think people want attractive people in games want them to jerk off to? That's not the case.

The point is there is agenda pushing and social engineering afoot. A game in the style of Conan the barbarian would not be allowed to be made today. Attractive Amazon curvy woman with little clothes and muscle bound man with little clothes, only the man would be allowed.

Hell they are now going after hair too. Look at outerworlds. All females have short man style cuts. Ugly faces. There is nothing wrong with wanting to play as an attractive person male or female. Why do people like you so against this.

I wonder if it's an age or political thing? I also find it crazy that the people against attractive females in games are all fine with naked women in music videos and are pro porn. But have an attractive woman or semi attractive women in a game... Reeeeeeee we... Muhsoggyknees.

Hmmm. Dunno. I'd say a response like to this to a joke is more in keeping with Era, but you do you.
 
Funny isn't it?

The stereotypical gamer used to be a fat, sweaty, spotty, greasy virgin living in his mums basement. Yet they enjoyed playing as huge, ripped, bulking dudes.

Then female gamers started joining in and now it's "wahh we can't have sexy women in games because it gives an unfair representation, sexy wiminz r bad!!"

Stupid bitches.
 
This must be one of the biggest idiotic things I have ever read.
Are you telling me that the society is lecturing me on what my dong should be erected to?
Men have liked feminine features for years, big boobs included, it wasn't society or TV that told men what they had to like. Women grew boobs when humans acquired the bipede stance, because men were looking at their chest instead of their ass and so boobs grew to simulate a fake ass. It's evolution, and it has nothing to do with mainstream teaching stuff.


If you dont think society has anything to do with standards of beauty then i guess we're reading different stuff. Standards of beauty has changed many times throughout history and other cultures. Im not going to get into a history lesson.
 
"go to pornhub"
"beauty is subjective"
"you're thirsty"

Heavily projecting own insecurites onto others. That kind of virtue signalling generally doesn't work on GAF these days. Maybe try another forum?
 
Almost no western developer dares to create a sexy woman anymore. I mean, its an incredible power they have. And its being ignored. A good looking woman can make a man do anything she wants. Its not everything but still part of what can make them so powerful. CDPR ofcourse did with Triss and Yen. But this was at a time where you could get away with it still, Lara Croft looked really good in especially the first TR reboot too. Meanwhile we'll see perfect looking guys everywhere, showing off sixpacks and abs most men can only dream of.

To me it sounds like SJW and LGBT are simply being catered towards. They have sexy guys for gays to gasp at. They have tomboy and masculine looking women to appease feminists. And perhaps to appease to lesbians or w/e.

Is there anything left for straight young males? It IS an audience. Good that you want to represent everyone, but not this crowd? I'm glad the likes of Square don't give a fuck. I think good and stylish looking woman add something to a game. I wanted my Geralt to court Yen in my TW3 run. I wouldn't bother if she looked like Abby. Tifa looks unrealistic sure, her features are too perfect, but so do the features of 99% of male protags. And I don't care. Its a game and I don't want to play with some fat ass.
 
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If you dont think society has anything to do with standards of beauty then i guess we're reading different stuff. Standards of beauty has changed many times throughout history and other cultures. Im not going to get into a history lesson.
I just need to look at instagram models and their following to debunk this theory.
 
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What about Dina from The Last of us Part II? She's pretty sexy, no?

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Just talking about transgenders in general. I feel kind of bad for them since there's parts that they can't really change like their voices for example.
doesn't mean you tear down all voice channels

nobody gives a fuck about your linguistic profile, play the game and have fun
 
Yeah, beauty is a subjective ideal, each individual has their own invisible checklist for qualifications, but you know...there's another point worth mentioning. A large enough group of people share that same (or similar enough) list of qualifications, that they could be grouped together and pandered to en masse with a character or actress that meets a reasonably high amount of those qualifications. There's a word for it, I'm kind of lost here. Market? Demographic?

In the burgeoning wake of the Dark Ages of Gaming, you have developers who see faceless shadows peeking around every corner. You see people who are too afraid of angering people with no investment in the product to actually attempt to please those who have followed said product/IP/Hobby for years. Classic case of missing the forest for the trees.

I have my sincere doubts that THIS is the gentle erosion of cultural norms over time and eventually, we'll all be stans for Abby and Abby-centric uh...empowered people. No, this seems more like a deluge of grey ice water from a faulty floodgate. Evolution happens, but only when it's biologically imperative for survival. Until then, we have a word for it: mutation; and it usually doesn't last long, if it's mother doesn't eat it while it's still steaming from the womb, first.
 
There is something off about her hips it just turns me off.

Don't even get me started with that nose of her.

Her original pitch was way worse. She looked like a stereotype Jewish girl. I guess Cuckmann really wanted a representation there. Real life actress looks far better regardless. If you uglify something, you simply have an agenda.
 
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probably thanks to that lot over at Ree and other dark corners of the internet.

show an attractive female and you'll get wailings of things like "muh representation!" "X is a bunch of Y-phobic asses!" "damn white males! they ruin everything!" "sexist pigs!" "racists!!"
 
Also noticed when I watched a bit of some cartoons on a streaming service and noticed that all the big boobs and cleavage is gone. I think it was a Marvel or maybe DC cartoon.

How come female superheros aren't drawn with big boobies and big booties anymore?
 
Her body was uglified in the game compared to her real life counterpart.
These developers only do this with the women. Notice how the male character looks identical to his real life counter part. It's totally sexist, but good luck convincing a feminist of that. It would seem western game devs are actually at war with femininity.

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That's one of the reason why project athia's announcement was a crushing disappointment, I was expecting at least a sexy female char from square Enix and I didn't even get that. It really sucks.
 
Saying the beauty is subjective is kind of silly.

99% of people can agree on what attractive is.
That's why we have models/actresses.
Not commenting on the state of beauty in gaming,
Just saying that the phrase or outlook of "beauty is a social construct" is a fallacy.
 
Yeah, it's a crime be hot and beautiful nowdays, because indirectly you are offending the fat feminists with haired armpit.

Welcome to woke world!
 
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There's a serious lack of them in general in games nowadays, the only ones I can think of are in already existing games that have existed for like over a decade now or fighting games ( the fgc isn't exactly prudes and they're niche ).

I think that this is because A, most devs nowadays try really hard to make their games look realistic and I think that people are way more overly sensitive to sexualized content when the graphics are realistic.
I actually think that this is one of the reasons why DoA gets so much hate from certain people even if we just ignore DoAX for a second, because ( for a Japanese fighting game ) the characters look more realistic.
I honestly think that Street Fighter has more lewd character designs but in general people don't react as strongly against it.
I mean imagine if Dragon's Crown or even games like Senran Kagura had realistic models, people would flip their shit even harder about it.

And secondly, and probably the main reason.
Instead of adding sexualized male characters marketing teams and the CEO's on top would rather just erase the sexualized female characters and nowadays it's harder to get away with just sexualizing one gender.
I honestly think that funnily enough the main reason why gaming nowadays is so extremely desexualized has to do with homophobia.
Game studios and publishers still pander primarily to men, but they also have to stay out of trouble and are scared of being called this and that.
And they know that if they add sexualized male characters then insecure men will flip out and not want to play.
They can sorta get away with shirtless men but they're usually still quite burly and conventionally masculine, they're still designed primarily for those men who play their games and not for women or gay men.

In general people are sorta stupid about sex and sexuality too, people can watch others get their heads blown off but a woman shows some cleavage and then a lot of people will unironically have problems controlling themselves and can't focus on anything else and they reduce it to fap material and nothing else.
I mean look at how people react whenever someone says that they're disappointed about a character change or expresses an opinion about this.
I've said before that I am disappointed with how they've been rewriting Miss Fortune in League of Legends and been desexualizing her quite a lot and the reaction is usually to call me a virgin and tell me to '' just go watch porn ''. It's so stupid and people are totally missing the point.
To me that's like if Mortal Kombat got censored and I just told people to go and look at gore videos on LiveLeak or something.
Most people just tend to have these extremely surface level takes.

It's the same if a game is censored in terms of sexualization and people call it out genuinely because they don't like censorship and the trend and the precedent that it sets, people immediately just start hand-waving it away and tell people to just go watch porn etc.
But then blood or a joke gets censored and people flip out about it and suddenly react.
People are just fucking stupid about sex. And I also think that they're insecure and ashamed about it, I'll never understand why men in particular try so hard to convince others that they don't care about it.

Beauty is subjective. What you think is beautiful was taught to you by those who were trying to sell a certain aesthetic when you were younger. Young people playing these new games will have a different perspective of beauty as the culture in entertainment changes.

What you're feeling right now is the struggle and frustration of getting old as the world that you know gets replaced by a new one defined by generations younger than you. It happened to your parents and their parents also. The only thing we can strive for is to not sound like our parents. It's the only control we have. So personally I welcome this new brand of beauty, it won't be around for long and will be replaced just as quickly as it's inception by younger generations. The cycle continues. Then I can feed off the tears of others as they come to the same realisation. Because bitterness is the intoxicant of the ageing. Its amazing to be able to roll my eyes at younger generations whilst knowing in the grand scheme of things it all means absolutely nothing. Especially how women look in video games.

Just give me a floating ball of light that can shoot guns and let's move on.

I really don't buy this at all.
I know what you're talking about and I do think that this is true in the sense that the definition of beauty is being widened.
But I don't buy that it's some organic change or that people want one beauty standard to replace the other.
I think that this has a lot more to do with fear and cowardice on the side of the developers.

I don't have any problems with more actual diversity, I think that seeing characters like Abby in TLOU2 is cool too.
But there really isn't more diversity, all that really happened was that they sliced the breasts off the female characters and put them in t-shirts and jeans and copy pasted the anger issues and misery porn that the male characters had and endured and gave it to the female characters.
But they're pretty much all flat or close to flat-chested and skinny or skinny with somewhat muscle definition. Anything else is extreme rare exceptions ( male characters aren't much better tbh ).

Actual diversity would include all kinds of body types and characters.
And I don't buy that this is some '' young people '' thing either, as opposed to what loud screechers on Twitter and Tumblr would have people believe young people and LGBTQ communities are quite hypersexual and worship conventional beauty a lot.
In my experience at least it's mostly men who have issues with this and don't find it appealing outside of jerking off.
Often times men even feel provoked by it, and they judge everything about what strength and power fantasies are based on masculine norms.
But to a lot of other people including a lot of men aggressive expressions of femininity is cool and badass, it's just not considered safe and marketable.
And the general audience ( which is mostly men ) won't identify with it.
Female characters nowadays are really mostly designed for men to have an easier time identifying with them rather than women.

probably thanks to that lot over at Ree and other dark corners of the internet.

show an attractive female and you'll get wailings of things like "muh representation!" "X is a bunch of Y-phobic asses!" "damn white males! they ruin everything!" "sexist pigs!" "racists!!"

This kind of shit is just performative wokeness, I think that most people who support characters like Abby and more body diversity don't want to erase conventionally attractive and sexualized female characters, they just want more options for everyone.
Some people can't praise a character like Abby or whatever without indirectly insulting other female characters or bring up complaints about sexualization everywhere even when it's out of context and not even there.
But I think that they're a loud minority.
 
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That's one of the reason why project athia's announcement was a crushing disappointment, I was expecting at least a sexy female char from square Enix and I didn't even get that. It really sucks.
Did they show the character? The trailer shows too little... Some are saying that Ella Balinska is the model for the character:

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I think she is really pretty...
 
Did they show the character? The trailer shows too little... Some are saying that Ella Balinska is the model for the character:

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I think she is really pretty...
They only showed her mouth, if there isn't any insider info I think it's hard to make an assumption based on that.
Also yes, she's very pretty.
 
What about Dina from The Last of us Part II? She's pretty sexy, no?

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Textbook "butterface." (But-her-face for those not hip to the lingo)

Perfect example of the behind the scenes SJW/WOKE tinkering they did on this game, as the real life model she is based on is actually pretty damn cute but they fucked up her face in the game so she wouldn't be "too pretty" and piss off the beard legged feminazis.
 
i love how the response to "why can't we have sexy characters in our games" is "go watch more porn"

like lol what kind of weird prudish life do you live where all depictions of sex has to be isolated to porn?

it's hilarious the way these posters try to kink shame people. like there can't exist any nuance between "showing some cleavage" "hardcore fucking"

it's this pathetic gatekeeping which keeps games "from growing up". normal healthy adults have no problem with sex in media. it's just funny how hysterical people get if a boob is rendered in a video game.

as an adult heterosexual male im down for some sexy ladies. nothing wrong w that and im sick of people telling me there is.
 
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