KingKiller
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What are the benefits of Europe or Asia vs American servers?
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What are the benefits of Europe or Asia vs American servers?
lawlohwhat
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yea, they butchered a fundamental game design concept of beating a real challenge through repetition, patience, and practice and just replaced that idea with 'iteration = difficulty'.
Mobius and pet octopus
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How are they luck based? I found them very easy. If I didn't beat it one shot, I beat it in the second try.
Doomshroom
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I feel the Warrior one depended on a great start. First try i died and made 0 damage second try i won with 30 life and 20 something armor.
The hunter one is extremely luck based since the whole deck is filled with web spinners. If you draw nothing but shite , or good but way too costly cards, you're going to lose. If your first three webspinners draw 3 king crushes you're going to lose.
Not really any difference outside of ping, but that's not a massive issue in a turn based card game. Some people seem to suggest there is difficulty differences with laddering/arena between the servers but who knows.
The decks are full of bad cards so bad opening hands are possible, thus it's luck based. The opponents are so easy that there is no skill required if you just curve out.
All in all they are extremely easy when compared to the heroics of course.
Mobius and pet octopus
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I don't think that means it is really luck based seeing as it only took you two tries. And you probably learned something from the first attempt that made a big difference.
Regarding the paladin challenge specifically, people keep saying their hands get clogged up with the oozes, but the same thing happened to me and that wasn't a problem, if anything it was a benefit because he can only freeze so many of them at once, and your goal early on is to get rid of the armor asap so he stops hitting you for 3 every turn.
Well of course their is luck to that challenge. But still, every time I tried the challenge I won which leads me to believe that the element of skill involved is still present however luck based it is.
Ah ok, I thought it was just me!
I decided to run with Hunter when I hit rank 3, seemed to have the best win rate compared to the other decks.
There seems to be two distinct Hunter decks out there at the moment, the Mad Scientist / Trap one and the Tracking / Timber Wolf one.
Professor Lich
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So, I had to net deck to beat heroic Kel'Thuzad, but it was worth it. Getting Cairen and Kel'Thuzad on the board together was amazing.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Well I am not saying there isn't luck*, but just isn't to the degree that people have been saying. It is just like a somewhat non-standard aggro paladin deck that relies on divine favor and cult master for card draw. In a way, it actually has more card draw than real aggro decks... making cult master maybe an interesting one of to include in an aggro pally deck tbh.
DIIIEEEEEEEE
Onyxia worked wonders on Heroic Kel'Thuzad. Poor guy kept stealing whelps while he's getting hit by Onyxia, Rag, and Ashbringer. That final swing to the face felt so satisfying.
Saphhiron was a different story though. Somehow managed to hang on with 1 life and beat him. He had a Spectral Knight and a Mana Wyrm on board with 16 health. I used Leeroy, Cone of Cold on the 2 whelps which also froze the Spectral Knight, and Ice Lanced the Mana Wyrm. Hit him down to 10 and prayed he didn't draw another Frostbolt, then slammed a Pyroblast onto his face. Definitely the toughest heroic fight.
Saphhiron was a different story though. Somehow managed to hang on with 1 life and beat him. He had a Spectral Knight and a Mana Wyrm on board with 16 health. I used Leeroy, Cone of Cold on the 2 whelps which also froze the Spectral Knight, and Ice Lanced the Mana Wyrm. Hit him down to 10 and prayed he didn't draw another Frostbolt, then slammed a Pyroblast onto his face. Definitely the toughest heroic fight.
Oh, I found him rather easy. I had the hardest time in wings 3-4, where you basically had to open with hand x and after countering the bosses' play, hope that they didn't continue it.
Like fucking Gluth. I destroyed his weapon and thought, yes, smooth sailing. Then he pulls a 2nd. When he didn't, I completely destroyed him :|
RumblingRosco
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Ain't got nothing on my top 17 finish.
Amazing
Professor Lich
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Was skeptical but yeah the deck they give the Paladin class challenge is total shit. It very clearly revolved around a single win condition, you buffing oozes. Lame as hell, Ill beat it and never do it again.
They literally give you TERRIBLE minions so you have next to zero chance outside of RNG drawing your cards in the perfect order. And you get zero taunts from what I can see also, meanwhile he plays plenty of taunt walls and actually interrupts your turn to auto play another taunt wall for free while gaining a hero power min control for the rest of the battle.
Thats not even remotely... Its so far past ridiculous that I cannot believe there is any way they intended for it to be anything other than a one and done. Im so disappointed with everything from Naxx outside of the cards. Its incredibly lazy.
They literally give you TERRIBLE minions so you have next to zero chance outside of RNG drawing your cards in the perfect order. And you get zero taunts from what I can see also, meanwhile he plays plenty of taunt walls and actually interrupts your turn to auto play another taunt wall for free while gaining a hero power min control for the rest of the battle.
Thats not even remotely... Its so far past ridiculous that I cannot believe there is any way they intended for it to be anything other than a one and done. Im so disappointed with everything from Naxx outside of the cards. Its incredibly lazy.
hypersheep
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Priest, thoughsteal/mind vision his weapon, use spells and your deathrattle minions to clear his deathrattle minions, try and silence his skeletal smiths, ooze his weapon, hit him with your massively buffed weapon for a few turns.
Mad Scientist Hunter annihilates Zoo.
daemissary
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As someone who plays Mad Scientist Hunter...I don't think this is true at all. At best it might be 55/45, wins are heavily dependent on drawing UTH.
Other than a few cone of colds and a twisting nether, i don't think Kel'Thuzad can do much to you if you just drop everything with that deck. I ended up getting a 3 card divine favour, followed by a huge cultmaster that filled my hand a few turns later and just overwhelmed him. If you can get extra cards like that and have a bit of owl back-up, he can't keep up.
He didn't use his 8 hero power against me at all except one single time, which got him a 1/1 to trade with another 1/1. I guess he didn't think that my minions were worth it most of the time and just played whatever he drew that turn instead.
mysteriousmage09
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I've had really good luck, then. I've beaten Zoo decks consistently. Priest is the class I've found to be most troublesome.
On another note, I finished Naxx yesterday. Seems like KT (the boss not the card) was designed with Paladins in mind. Makes sense, given the lore. Sapphiron was easy on Normal. So was KT, when using a Paladin deck. Using other classes, KT was kind of tough, even on Normal.
lawlohwhat
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hit rank 6 today. dunno if i can do legend by the end of the season but i'll be close
Mobius and pet octopus
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EscapingJail
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oo new thread
Professor Lich
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Yes, and anything the dies will be resurrected for how many KTs you have. Example, if you have three KTs and a 1/1 dies. At the end of that turn, you'll get three 1/1s.
Holy shit, I didn't think it would stack. That could get HILARIOUS with Reincarnate/Ancestral Spirit.
LumpOfCole
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Heroic KT down. Heroic card back obtained!
Professor Lich
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Yeah, have to be a bit careful with it though. When I first got four KTs with some shenanigans, I ended up filling my board with taunt totems. Have to remember that they will resurrect in the order they die. Pretty sure anyway, hard to test and be sure.
Professor Lich
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Kel'Thuzad shouldn't resurrect himself if he died. That should only happen if there is more than one.
So now there's a hard counter against Ragnaros. It's clearly working based on game mechanics, albeit it seems really weird. Kel'Thuzad died after the fact the turn ended, so apparently, his ability still triggers. It's still really sketchy...though. What is considered end of turn? In this case, it was after both Rags killed both minions.
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