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What's your deck list? I fancy some RNG shenanigans.
I didn't know about the deathwing interaction. I was thinking of the kodo -> mad scientist -> mirror entity interaction. Where the mad scientist deathrattle fully resolves before the kodo enters play and so gets copied by mirror entity.
If Sylvanas does steal Deathwing then I guess I'm wrong and the rules are inconsistent.
RumblingRosco
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Hearthstone rules being confusing and inconsistent? Sounds about right.
Yeah thinking about it some more, by the normal rules a fire elemental then should be able to kill a damaged sylvanas without being stolen but that isn't the case.
It's truly astounding to me that after all this time, sylvanas's deathrattle is still different and broken compared to everything else.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Sylvanas would have a chance to steal rend blackhand in that situation. On the plus side, you can use your own rend blackhand to kill your own sylvanas to snipe steal important cards. Just a little bit of interesting utility that might not be available otherwise for your deck.
I'm not worried about sylvanas not being a good target because most other legends are good targets.
Also, according to their known issues page on the forums, it is apparently mad scientist/secrets that is bugged, not sylvanas.
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Think of it like this:
battlecry occurs
minion hits board
deathrattles occur
secrets occur
Sort of...
I'm not worried about sylvanas not being a good target because most other legends are good targets.
Also, according to their known issues page on the forums, it is apparently mad scientist/secrets that is bugged, not sylvanas.
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Think of it like this:
battlecry occurs
minion hits board
deathrattles occur
secrets occur
Sort of...
I opened a Bolvar about a month ago and tossed him into my midrange pally for science. He hasn't been removed and I don't think he ever will be. I don't expect Bolvar to carry a game like Tirion or other 8+ drops. He is 5 mana so all I want is 2 good trades out of him, and most of the time I get that and more.
If he is silenced, it hurts, but I run Shredders, Sludge Belchers, Sylvanus & Tirion in the same deck so I'm going to lose value to a silence some where. Bolvar at least still has a decent body and can act as clean up after the silence.
He is easier to buff than you would think. Hero power, death rattles that spawn minions, and Muster offer lots of easy ways to get his attack over 5 even a round or two after he is drawn. If you draw Bolvar on turn 3 and play Muster, then turn 4 a shreeder, it's very likely that you are going to drop a 6/7 bolvar on turn 5. It's not unusual for me to hold on to him to make better plays and when I lay him down it's a 15/7 that wins the game unless killed.
Lots of fun. A good card, but it can be replaced by Harrison, Loatheb, or even a Sea Giant. I would only craft it if there weren't more general cards I could use.
I believe that Ben Brode has clarified that Sylv will MC Rend in that situation
Gully State
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Crafted the Sen X midrange hunter deck and I'm amazed at how everything works together while the deck didn't miss a beat with tempo. I'm missing one savannah highmane so I substituted with a feign death instead.. it's funny watching the enemy board cut down by two knife jugglers (I don't know why I initially thought their ability wouldn't stack )while yours grows due to a couple of feign death triggered death rattles.
FiveSix4Three
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Mobius and pet octopus
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Daxxari (sp), one of the HS community managers, stated paladin is his favorite deck for dragons in testing. So I'm pretty excited about BRM. However, pre-naxx I didn't care for paladins at all so my preferences can always change. I think warrior can be potentially a strong dragon based class too.
Would Rend be playable if he killed ANY minion? That would be an 8/4, requires a dragon in hand, but kills any minion on play.
I still don't think he would see much play. He will already be competing for deck slots against the high cost dragons which Dragon decks are going to to want to run. Then as a Removal Minion card he is up against BGH and Black Knight, and both have better bodies for their cost.
It's probably because paladin already has a dragon class card.
Bolvar Feldragon
I hope warrior works out. I was disappointed that MechWarrior didn't end up being a thing but perhaps instead we can have DragonWarrior
call_kotaku
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After playing a Kezan mystic in my deck for a week, and consistenly playing versus it in control matchups, I think I have to reevaluate my belief that there needs to be cheaper neutral secret counters. Having a "clean" counter to secrets at low cost would remove a lot of strategy (face hunter durr I know) involved in playing around them.
Flare is way too good, and it's a testament to how good Hunter is that it's never played because it's completely unnecessary. Hunter didn't need that card vs Miracle Rogue or Mages even though it's theoretically great value. The thing even draws a card!
I think deathrattle behavior for the most part is consistent, and if I remember correctly things like Sylvanas have been made more consistent through patches. You can't count the secret that mad scientist produces as a deathrattle, it produces the secret consistently, but the activation requirements for the secret get weird.
Flare is way too good, and it's a testament to how good Hunter is that it's never played because it's completely unnecessary. Hunter didn't need that card vs Miracle Rogue or Mages even though it's theoretically great value. The thing even draws a card!
I think deathrattle behavior for the most part is consistent, and if I remember correctly things like Sylvanas have been made more consistent through patches. You can't count the secret that mad scientist produces as a deathrattle, it produces the secret consistently, but the activation requirements for the secret get weird.
Mobius and pet octopus
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A priest just gave me auchenai via sylvanas. Mistakes were made.
Hah nice I laughed.
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God damn, 2 priests in a row and this second one is 10 minutes of turn time while I'm at 5.
Then he wins a 1/5 chance to steal kelthuzad with sylvanas... yay... love waiting 10 minutes to lose to RNG.
Hah, I am still probably going to win this match... this guy is straight up trolling though. 20 minutes and I haven't hit 10 minutes yet.
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Notice this post time and the time of this last edit. I started this match the moment after I posted this originally pretty much.
Hah nice I laughed.
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God damn, 2 priests in a row and this second one is 10 minutes of turn time while I'm at 5.
Then he wins a 1/5 chance to steal kelthuzad with sylvanas... yay... love waiting 10 minutes to lose to RNG.
Hah, I am still probably going to win this match... this guy is straight up trolling though. 20 minutes and I haven't hit 10 minutes yet.
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Notice this post time and the time of this last edit. I started this match the moment after I posted this originally pretty much.
hey All !
Would like your advice, I'm still a very newbie HS player. I just got a golden Ysera from a regular pack last night. Should I disenchant it for something else? I already have Dr. Boom
I mostly only play Face Hunter 90% of the time. I don't have Leeroy though... so is the best decision to disenchant golden Ysera and craft Leeroy?
Would like your advice, I'm still a very newbie HS player. I just got a golden Ysera from a regular pack last night. Should I disenchant it for something else? I already have Dr. Boom
I mostly only play Face Hunter 90% of the time. I don't have Leeroy though... so is the best decision to disenchant golden Ysera and craft Leeroy?
Ysera is a good legendary. DO NOT DUST.
Ysera is a really good card, and she is probably about to become a whole lot more powerful next month.
Plus as far as golden legendaries go, cards like ysera that produce more golden cards are the coolest.
ok got it, thx! I don't really know the value of most cards yet
<edit> also thx slayn!
Mobius and pet octopus
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Seriously, fuck some people.
On the last turn, the very last turn, after he finally realized he lost he leaves "your opponent has left" message pops up.
This is such an immature and salty response to losing a game, where you were lucky enough to win a 1/5 chance to grab kelthuzad with sylvanas.
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Yay, 3rd priest in a row now.
On the last turn, the very last turn, after he finally realized he lost he leaves "your opponent has left" message pops up.
This is such an immature and salty response to losing a game, where you were lucky enough to win a 1/5 chance to grab kelthuzad with sylvanas.
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Yay, 3rd priest in a row now.
I had a look at all the legendaries I don't have yet, and it dawned on me just how many Dragons there are. Damn.
Malygos, Ysera, Deathwing, Onyxia, Nozdormu, Alexstrasza....I'm sure I'm missing a couple more.
They're all about to become much more valuable with Dragons being a thing in Blackrock.
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What might be fun in this thread is to puzzle out what new legendaries could be like in the game based on their WoW abilities. I've always been impressed and fascinated by how WoW characters/figures have had their traits and abilities translated into HS.
Like, what would Vaelastrasz/burning adrenaline look like in HS?
Something that profoundly (or subtlely) affects all minions on the board? That escalates every turn? Could be a fascinating card. Even just that every minion on the board gains +1/+1 every turn.
Malygos, Ysera, Deathwing, Onyxia, Nozdormu, Alexstrasza....I'm sure I'm missing a couple more.
They're all about to become much more valuable with Dragons being a thing in Blackrock.
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What might be fun in this thread is to puzzle out what new legendaries could be like in the game based on their WoW abilities. I've always been impressed and fascinated by how WoW characters/figures have had their traits and abilities translated into HS.
Like, what would Vaelastrasz/burning adrenaline look like in HS?
Something that profoundly (or subtlely) affects all minions on the board? That escalates every turn? Could be a fascinating card. Even just that every minion on the board gains +1/+1 every turn.
AntiFacebook
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Do you get to choose the legendary to be destroyed by Rend,or is it random?
homeworkfilms
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Mobius what happens when he leaves? Doesn't it just come up like a normal win? You don't have to wait any longer than normal right? I only ask because I do that sometimes for time reasons not salt. It is just simpler to straight exit then go through 4 menus.
Professor Lich
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Give another random friendly minion +5/+5 at the start of your turn. At the end of your turn, it dies.
This is the main reason I love Hearthstone, seeing old things become new in interesting ways. Makes me wish Rend's effect was actually, "If you have dragon cards in your hand, play one for free at random," since he has a dragon mount in his fight you have to kill.
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If it was, random would be in the card text, so this is targeted. Slayn is also correct, since it doesn't mention enemy in the text, you can also destroy your own minion.
It is your choice but also forced. So if you have a legendary minion in play and your opponent doesn't, you'll be forced to kill your own minion to be able to play him.
But if both you and your opponent have a legendary minion in play you can target theirs.
+1/+1 and dealing one damage to every other minion on the start (end?) of your turn (every turn?) would be pretty representative of the original DPS check. It should probably also be a 4/12 like Malygos so you get some time to enjoy its effects without it also being a huge threat on the board itself.
Mobius and pet octopus
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It makes you lose the game after a minute wait.
If you just concede first, no one will think you've rage quit.
Facundo_Lopez
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what's up with the rise of priests?
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thepotatoman
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I don't know, but it's troubling. Priest is the one class I still just don't get at all. I can't seem to beat them and I can't seem to do well as one. I just don't know what is the strengths and weaknesses of priest are. I don't even know what sort of decks priest likes and dislike to play against.
FiveSix4Three
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I can't play consistently with priest unless its minion heavy.
Too many inconsistent draws if you're playing all of the combo cards, imo.
The list I had been running recently didn't even play Auchenai or Pyromancer.
Hell, I even teched in echoing ooze as an early game drop without any buffs outside of argus/pws. It worked pretty well too.
Too many inconsistent draws if you're playing all of the combo cards, imo.
The list I had been running recently didn't even play Auchenai or Pyromancer.
Hell, I even teched in echoing ooze as an early game drop without any buffs outside of argus/pws. It worked pretty well too.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Lol....
This mech mage...
Turn 9 he plays antonidas and sorceress' apprentice and plays 4 spare parts getting him 4 fireballs, because that is in no way broken.
I still win without breaking a sweat. Ok, seeing 4 fireballs drawn off antonidas was a little bit worrisome. But I had 2 lay on hands in hand, KT + an okay board. And a seal of light in hand + a healbot I drew into off the first lay on hands.
26 points of healing basically. It sucked that I had to equality to remove antonidas but at least I got my 5/5 back and 1/2 taunt back full hp. Even the fact that he had to ping KT the next turn was a bit helpful since that is 2 mana he can't spend on doing other things.
This mech mage...
Turn 9 he plays antonidas and sorceress' apprentice and plays 4 spare parts getting him 4 fireballs, because that is in no way broken.
I still win without breaking a sweat. Ok, seeing 4 fireballs drawn off antonidas was a little bit worrisome. But I had 2 lay on hands in hand, KT + an okay board. And a seal of light in hand + a healbot I drew into off the first lay on hands.
26 points of healing basically. It sucked that I had to equality to remove antonidas but at least I got my 5/5 back and 1/2 taunt back full hp. Even the fact that he had to ping KT the next turn was a bit helpful since that is 2 mana he can't spend on doing other things.
Anyway the Noxious salt on stream is fucking hilarious. The Hunter salt is getting to him.
I hope there's a card in Blackrock Mountain that gives you a random Dragon card so this starts happening a lot more.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Onyxia is surprisingly good in Druid constructed.
I'm running this cheeky deck:
x2 Savage Roar
x2 Power of the Wild
x2 Dark Wispers
x1 Onyxia
x2 Force of nature
You can imagine the other cards to supplement it.
Turn 9 Onyxia on an empty board is very useful. At that point, usually board clear spells are already used up, and the 1/1 minions find something to smash into with a boost.
I'm running this cheeky deck:
x2 Savage Roar
x2 Power of the Wild
x2 Dark Wispers
x1 Onyxia
x2 Force of nature
You can imagine the other cards to supplement it.
Turn 9 Onyxia on an empty board is very useful. At that point, usually board clear spells are already used up, and the 1/1 minions find something to smash into with a boost.
Had a hilarious game as a control Warrior against a Mech Priest yesterday. I was down to about 5 health, he had 10, and his side of the board had 4 mechs and a Northshire Cleric. I attack his Annoy-o-Tron with Death's Bite, which then breaks and does 1 damage to all his minions. I then play Alextrasza to bring me up to 15 health, basically hoping I somehow survive and draw Brawl on the next turn. He then brings me down to 2 health and says "well played", casting Holy Nova which brings me to zero. Holy Nova heals all his minions, which causes him to overdraw and kill himself. Tied but I enjoyed that quite a bit.
Yeah I wasn't expecting him to sweep 'The Chakster'.
Mobius and pet octopus
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One of the minions the first boss uses
name:
text:
Interesting. It is not collectible. So the spoiler is in case you want don't want any of BRM spoiled.
http://www.pcgamer.com/details-revealed-about-hearthstones-first-blackrock-mountain-boss/
name:
Dark Iron Bouncer
text:
Always wins Brawls
Interesting. It is not collectible. So the spoiler is in case you want don't want any of BRM spoiled.
http://www.pcgamer.com/details-revealed-about-hearthstones-first-blackrock-mountain-boss/
Antonidas (esp. stealthed) and Jaraxxus by themselves destroy Mill/Fatigue decks. Chakky got really unlucky that Lifecoach got those cards out on time because if they are pulled early then the match becomes easy.
Those two Warlock matches didn't do him any favor though. The Druid combo is simply better than the Warlock combo. That deck needs tuning because it's not his playstyle.
Those two Warlock matches didn't do him any favor though. The Druid combo is simply better than the Warlock combo. That deck needs tuning because it's not his playstyle.
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