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I'm seriously debating whether to save gold for blackrock or buy more packs since i am missing so many core cards like Sylvanas. Guess i'll decide soon enough but i'm leaning heavily towards more card packs.
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Mobius and pet octopus
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Okay, my final thoughts on lava shock. What a cool and interesting card.
Lava shock is like a holy smite + innervate smacked into one card.
Here is my analysis:
It is easy to evaluate the cost-benefit of the 2 damage because holy smite/arcane shot deal 2 damage for 1 mana. So basically when you play lava shock you are spending 1 mana to deal 2 damage, and 1 mana to unload overloaded crystals (literally generating you additional mana).
Every mana crystal you unload over 1 cost is netting you mana, although it is fair to say that the first mana cyrstal is being used up on the damage portion. Since it works across multiple turns, it is not unreasonable to unload 5+ mana. So you can easily generate 3+ mana off lava shock, while casting what is basically a holy smite.
Here is an example I feel is reasonable:
Turn 7 you totem, crackle, and feral spirits. You are overloaded for 3 next turn. Turn 8 you have 5 mana, so you lightning storm and lava shock. Lava shock gives you 3 mana this turn, and 2 mana next turn that you would have otherwise not had. So 5 mana generated at the cost of 1 mana, because 1 mana is being "devoted" towards dealing 2 damage as if it were a holy smite.
Cards that do multiple things are pretty strong in this game. Cards that have high potential and do multiple things, are pretty bad ass. Think of implosion. It deals immediate damage and summons imps and has high potential. Bad ass.
Lava shock is like a holy smite + innervate smacked into one card.
Here is my analysis:
It is easy to evaluate the cost-benefit of the 2 damage because holy smite/arcane shot deal 2 damage for 1 mana. So basically when you play lava shock you are spending 1 mana to deal 2 damage, and 1 mana to unload overloaded crystals (literally generating you additional mana).
Every mana crystal you unload over 1 cost is netting you mana, although it is fair to say that the first mana cyrstal is being used up on the damage portion. Since it works across multiple turns, it is not unreasonable to unload 5+ mana. So you can easily generate 3+ mana off lava shock, while casting what is basically a holy smite.
Here is an example I feel is reasonable:
Turn 7 you totem, crackle, and feral spirits. You are overloaded for 3 next turn. Turn 8 you have 5 mana, so you lightning storm and lava shock. Lava shock gives you 3 mana this turn, and 2 mana next turn that you would have otherwise not had. So 5 mana generated at the cost of 1 mana, because 1 mana is being "devoted" towards dealing 2 damage as if it were a holy smite.
Cards that do multiple things are pretty strong in this game. Cards that have high potential and do multiple things, are pretty bad ass. Think of implosion. It deals immediate damage and summons imps and has high potential. Bad ass.
Professor Lich
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Lava Shock is pretty cool. Wonder what Overload Cards they are going to add. Guess we're back into two new cards a day hype!
Though I wonder how this is going to work out. Naxx had all neutrals excluding the class challenges. Maybe they'll just segregate out the classes into wings maybe? Seems a bit unfair but then again Paladins got the heavy shaft on Naxx when it came to releasing their class card.
Though I wonder how this is going to work out. Naxx had all neutrals excluding the class challenges. Maybe they'll just segregate out the classes into wings maybe? Seems a bit unfair but then again Paladins got the heavy shaft on Naxx when it came to releasing their class card.
Mobius and pet octopus
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I must have missed this but apparently they are in fact adding 2 class cards per class in BRM. http://www.hearthpwn.com/news/805-new-blackrock-cards-lava-shock-axe-flinger#note-on-class-cards
Mana tide isn't underrated. It just tends to function as a 3 mana loot hoarder most of the time.
That says just one new card per class. Two copies.
Mobius and pet octopus
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No, it says 2 diffrent cards per class.
RumblingRosco
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2-mana, 2/2; Battlecry: Gain control of target minion which has 4-attack.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Priest 5 mana spell
No one can lose for the next 20 minutes.
No one can lose for the next 20 minutes.
RumblingRosco
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5-mana 5/4; Deathrattle: Put 2 Secrets from your deck into the battlefield. You may have two of the same Secret active.
5-mana 5/4; Deathrattle: put a random secret into play for you and your opponent. The secret will be set to your class color so you can't tell which class the secret is from. Because random is fun.
Mobius and pet octopus
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700 per wing, 5 wings
Basically the same pricing scheme as naxxramas.
31 cards, 18 class cards, the rest are neutral. Half the class cards are from class challenges.
TetraxShards
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I can absolutely seeing this being a thing that happens, if not now, then in the future.
"DID SOMEONE SAY SCIENCE?"
Servbot #42
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If it's 2 different class card for each hero i'm just gonna save gold for blackrock, that's really cool indeed.
Awesome, thanks. I'll definitely start hoarding my gold now then.
Lol that's utterly ridiculous. Completely unrealistic.
Unless it's a Hunter card
True, it's more likely to be "Generate 2 random secrets and put them in play".
partyphone
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more shamans on ladder is pretty good for priest
Hearthstone |OT6| Take a Drag of Blackrock
Also prevents deck homogenization as more great nuetrals are released.
Professor Lich
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I hope this will amuse me more than the last!
Backrock mountain. You really have to want it.
Backrock mountain. You really have to want it.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Hearthstone |OT6| No Time For Games
theMrCravens
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Hearthstone can be weird sometimes.
Got to 10 arena wins with a typical Mage deck (no legendaries)...
...but with my previous excellent Druid deck with Kel'Thuzad, Black Knight and Cairne, I only got up to 4 wins.
This game...
Got to 10 arena wins with a typical Mage deck (no legendaries)...
...but with my previous excellent Druid deck with Kel'Thuzad, Black Knight and Cairne, I only got up to 4 wins.
This game...
FiveSix4Three
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Accidentally queued up with Randuin in ranked and I won.
This deck, man....this deck. I can go 0-10 with it then crush someone out of the blue with randomness. So worth it.
This deck, man....this deck. I can go 0-10 with it then crush someone out of the blue with randomness. So worth it.
KojiKnight
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Playing around with that Pally deck some more from the other day. I removed the two pyromancers and replaced them with 1 BGH for emergency removal and returned 1 armsmaster for a late game combo wombo. Doing good so far, I think this control warrior I'm playing right now is going to kick my ass however.
Something tells me I need to start properly tracking my matches so I can start playing decks that counter the general meta.
Something tells me I need to start properly tracking my matches so I can start playing decks that counter the general meta.
Variance bro. Sometimes you just get a bad or merely OK starting hand and they draw everything perfectly even if their deck was filled with shit.
I like this but it's severely lacking in Dr and balance.
Professor Lich
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Dr.B will be old news once we see the super star of BRM:AHSA. No idea who that'll be but there's always one!
Blizzard Stream Awards
I voted:
Favorite New Hearthstone Streamer: Lifecoach
Most Educational Hearthstone Stream: Bmkibler
Best Hearthstone Streamer: forsenlol
The first 2 categories had a bunch of good picks too.
F O R S E N B O Y S
I voted:
Favorite New Hearthstone Streamer: Lifecoach
Most Educational Hearthstone Stream: Bmkibler
Best Hearthstone Streamer: forsenlol
The first 2 categories had a bunch of good picks too.
F O R S E N B O Y S
RumblingRosco
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Hearthstone |OT6| Can you handle Dr. Boom's big Blackrock?
There we go.
Axe Flinger - This seems like a bad card. Because it does mostly face damage, it's an aggro card. But it doesn't have aggro stats. I think you'll have to rely on some gimmicky bouncing blade or whirlwind combos to really get value out of it. I guess with Grim Patron and this, Blizzard is pushing towards using Bouncing Blade in some kind of warrior aggro deck. But I think any deck like that is going to be too clunky. It's possible this card will surprise me, but clunky is definitely what comes to mind.
Lava Shock - I really like this card. It's possible that this card heralds the return of the classic Shaman deck that runs unbound, spirit wolves, thalnos, azure drakes, and maybe even an Earth Elemental for good measure. Like, with this card, Earth Elemental isn't really a bad play on curve anymore. You won't have to deal with a crummy Turn 6. Getting Polymorphed or BGH'd aint so bad. I don't think you play this just for the overload clearing effect though. I think you need to get some removal value out of the card, otherwise you're dumping your hand awfully fast without as much benefit as you could.
Lava Shock - I really like this card. It's possible that this card heralds the return of the classic Shaman deck that runs unbound, spirit wolves, thalnos, azure drakes, and maybe even an Earth Elemental for good measure. Like, with this card, Earth Elemental isn't really a bad play on curve anymore. You won't have to deal with a crummy Turn 6. Getting Polymorphed or BGH'd aint so bad. I don't think you play this just for the overload clearing effect though. I think you need to get some removal value out of the card, otherwise you're dumping your hand awfully fast without as much benefit as you could.
Professor Lich
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Axe Flinger is just weird because you want to trade with other minions to trigger the effect, or combo, but I feel like that aggro Warrior wouldn't run combo cards and you don't want to trade minions if you don't have to. I almost feel like it should also trigger the effect if it hits anything as well. That way it's kind of like a Yeti? I dunno, I like the idea but just seems awkward.
Maybe theres some Frothing/Enrage/Blade or Whirl Wind combo but it just feels way to clunky to be good.
Maybe theres some Frothing/Enrage/Blade or Whirl Wind combo but it just feels way to clunky to be good.
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