For the gold you get every 3 wins.
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For the gold you get every 3 wins.
Plus daily quests. Plus the matches are generally easier.
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
so what did you do with all the dust from the packs? Do you de golds as well? Do you make 100g a day on average?
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
A slew of new cards and unpredictable decks is less fun?
Yeah, I have a rule of going for efficient removal first because it's not as common to get.. up to two copies. It helped that the Crocolisk and Archer are weak choices. But Starfall vs. Argent and Keeper vs. Azure Drake were deck-changing decisions. I did, twice, end up using the Drake + Starfall combo.. once to clear a pack of X/3's, and once to clear a 6/6 Blood Knight.
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This is basically the goal of RNG (card draws / card sequence, actual RNG effects) in the these games. The "better" player doesn't always win. It greatly influences their chance, yeah, but it's still just that: A chance. That said, I do think the skill gap can get to the point that it's almost guaranteed but, yeah, still not 100-0.
I still find it weird that ArenaValue can't let me go through a set of 90 cards and pick a different deck and compare final decks and so-on. At least now it updates picks if you go back through it, though. And since Minsc pointed it out, I might as well do this then~~~
Pick #5 - I have an argument for basically every pick. Innervate is dead some of the time, sure, but Druid tends to be 5+ heavy with DotC, Starfall, Starfire, Ancients, Ironbark Protector, etc. and then a lot of decent bulk being at the 6+ range. Ogre Magi's Spellpower isn't dead here and you already have some decent early picks so a 4cc 4/4 is actually fairly good. Worgen just dies for free too easily and his upside isn't super common. Personally, it'd have been between Innervate and Magi and I'd have probably gone Innervate since it's so early but that's a riskier pick.
Pick #8 - I think I can agree with Starfall here. Commander is good, yeah, but Starfall is solid removal or board clear AND most people don't play around it vs Druid since everyone forgets about it since it's a Rare.
Pick #9 - My general preference is solid early game before my end game. Any fatty works to close a game out while early game has more targets to aim for. That's my argument for Tazdingo here anyway.
Pick #10 - both? Hm. Azure Drake is my gut on seeing them but KotG is silence or removal. I think I'd still go Drake (since Pick 10) but if this was later, I could see grabbing KotG instead for the utility. Looking over the draft as a whole, maybe Keeper was better to get another 4cc and just since it's a faster card in general due to the Battlecry.
Pick #11 - I'd make the argument for Ogre since you got the card draw earlier and the curve so far is all 5 or less. Then again, I say that also since I grabbed Innervate and skipped tree.
Pick #22 - I think I agree but I really want to know if this backfired horribly at some point.
Curve comes out fairly bumpy either way. Only major difference in the two decks is I trade a tree for an Ogre for the end game and get an extra Tazdingo into the deck to stabilize the start.
That's why I think it's just me. I dunno. Some real life medical issues have kept me from sitting down and rebuilding all my decks, so that's probably my main issue. Feels very combo oriented, too.
Deathlord pulled out a naked Faceless Manipulator, a Razorfen Hunter, and a Shattered Sun Cleric. I was OK with this. I think it's not really a bad pick since a lot of good minions are chosen based on their battlecry in arena, and obviously yanking them onto the board removes that value.
On the topic of drafts, I just made this: http://www.arenavalue.com/s/oAW6qF#1
Other than the lack activators for the egg and low card draw, I like it. The curve is practically perfect.
The weblord/gargoyle/humility was a weird choice since none of them are that good. Went with weblord for more 2 drops... 7 2 drops + egg makes for good early game.
Other than the lack activators for the egg and low card draw, I like it. The curve is practically perfect.
The weblord/gargoyle/humility was a weird choice since none of them are that good. Went with weblord for more 2 drops... 7 2 drops + egg makes for good early game.
I find it less fun because secrets and some crazy death rattle effects. Mostly secrets though. Always hated them.
I'm either going to just Arena or not play for a bit and wait for the meta to settle down and see how many secrets decks are still in play.
The reason I'm iffy (though it's still most likely best in pack) is just that worst case scenario draw from Deathlord is a fatty and most of those in Arena will be vanilla minions anyway. It's still something like a ~15% chance at best of failing on you so not a dealbreaker.
I just wanted a funny horror story :x
BananasWithGuns
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Yeah, I think Hearthstone has needed some form of counter to secrets for a while now. I'm really surprised they didn't add a card or two to counter them in Naxxramas.
The best (worst?) thing about secrets is that the only thing that counters secrets (flare) can be countered by a secret (counterspell).
partyphone
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The current meta is in flux as people figure out new decks. It's not fun to get facerolled by a gimmick deck but those will fade away once everything stabilizes.
Lactose_Intolerant
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Though I complained about there not being new cards, I think the new wings have kicked my hearthstone playing. I haven't played in days, not even to do daily quests.
Thank you based Blizzard
Thank you based Blizzard
partyphone
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it's had to win against shaman if you don't draw buzzard/unleash because all of their plays are so much more efficient than yours you need the card draw.
Meh, wasn't really that, they just outplayed me. One managed to play his Wolves perfectly, and the other timed his Loatheb even better.
I made a shaman deck last night with shade of nax. Where I would mulligan exlusively for it, drop it as soon as possible, and then never attack. At some point I would cast windfury on it while keeping it stealthed. The entire rest of the deck was defense (taunt/removal/sweeps)
Then eventually you drop some rockbiters and flametongues and 1-shot them. It was great. And terrible.
Even mulliganing exclusively for the shade I was only seeing it in the first ~8 cards about 30% of the time which feels unlucky, but I haven't done the math. Still though, I felt like I was favored to win any game I had it in my starting hand.
It's not a good deck right now, but if shaman ever got a tutor effect or a card like tracking to bump up the odds of early shade I think it could become a real deck.
Then eventually you drop some rockbiters and flametongues and 1-shot them. It was great. And terrible.
Even mulliganing exclusively for the shade I was only seeing it in the first ~8 cards about 30% of the time which feels unlucky, but I haven't done the math. Still though, I felt like I was favored to win any game I had it in my starting hand.
It's not a good deck right now, but if shaman ever got a tutor effect or a card like tracking to bump up the odds of early shade I think it could become a real deck.
Fixed1979
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I'm only playing around level 15-16 right now, but the amount of hunters I saw last night was mind boggling. If I played 7 games, 4 was against hunter and 2 against zoo. If it's the same thing this weekend I'll need to make some deck changes in order to make a run.
If the Mage plays only one secret, and the counterspell triggers on a flare, I am 100% OK with that.
ToyMachine228
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Finally saved up enough gold to enter the final wing of Naxx. Any tips for Sapphiron and KT?
Arenavalue.com
Arena isn't driven by synergy. Picking cards in arena is about getting strong value cards that are independently good. Cards like acidic swamp ooze, shattered sun cleric, harvest golem, chillwind yeti, tazdingo, scarlet crusader, Boulderfist ogre. Some cards like cult master or silver hand knight are seen as bad cards in constructed but are solid picks in arena. So you don't necessarily need to rely on draws. You just need to try and play on curve. Keep your mana curve on mind when drafting your deck so you don't get too lopsided.
Flaire is OP as fuck.
Freyjadour
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I'm not saying he's necessarily wrong, when you have top streamers like Reynad repeating things like "if you are climbing and aren't playing Hunter you are stupid", it's going to make the meta reaallly boring for a while.
Personally I've been playing Shaman because I have a deck I tweaked together and that's more enjoyable than netdecking the latest rush meta to Legend. To each his own.
Haunted
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Good luck. You'll need it.
Non-spoilery tip: don't pay too much attention to KT's hero power.
ToyMachine228
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Normal. Don't really care about heroic.
Fixed1979
Member
I agree, pretty sure there's always going to be a "go to" deck, and you're always going to occasionally get on a run where you see it a bunch of times, it's just shitty when it happens. I'll play a deck that I find fun as my primary goal, and worry about the ladder as a secondary goal (as evident from my rank).
Kinda bored, after getting the legend card-back there's no more incentive to play ranked except for the golden heroes but I'm not farming those till next season because I'm too high rank to farm newbies. Luckily it looks like Diablo 3 is getting the 2.1 patch next week so that will keep me interested for awhile.
Out of boredom, is there anyone here who is really new to Hearthstone and is interested in getting some free coaching over Skype?
Out of boredom, is there anyone here who is really new to Hearthstone and is interested in getting some free coaching over Skype?
Super Nothing
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I beat a golden Warlock playing zoo the other day. Felt damn good.
Sapphron is easy, just keep 2 strong minions on the board.
For KT heroic and normal just used a buff priest. Easy peasy and all you need is common 1-4 drops.
KingKiller
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Can you buy the Naxx wings out of order?
Nope.
KingKiller
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Bummer. Since I don't have the 700 gold each I'll probably just buy the rest of them with real money dollars.
Professor Lich
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Get used to it IMO. Theres more than a few people that don't like Arena. Im one of them. Simply shouting down everyone that doesn't love it with "You aren't drafting right!" or "Bbb...but is so good" isn't going to change that. Arena wins 5+ earn you SO many more packs + gold over constructed monthly that its ridiculous. Its annoying to those of us who don't like the mode because its not fun to play, yet you feel forced into it because the return is so much higher than constructed in terms of gaining gold so you can unlock cards.
Its also hilarious how as a new player, constructed mode can be rough on you because you don't have cards yet, but Arena ignores the cards you have. You are fucking railroaded into that mode and its annoying as hell. When they get around to adding a worth a damn adventure mode or something Im sure the annoyance with Arena will die down, but for now? ....
It depends entirely on "why" they don't like it.
Besides that, yes, the mode is pretty much the fastest way to earn gold for packs so like it or not, you'll probably want to get good at it if only to make the grind for cards easier.
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Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
Super Nothing
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Didn't look like it. I saw his cursor moving around and pointing to different cards. It was in casual, so maybe he was trying a zoo with some changes before taking it to the ladder.
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