Dont play Casual. Matchmaking in casual doesnt work well. I go into there to do my dailies with fully powered decks with classes Im not that confortable and sometimes Im paired with people with mostly basic cards. It hurts to obliterate them and usually I add them to apologize after the match because I know it can be discouraging to have someone curve you out sylvanas into dr boom into ragnaros.
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Dont play Casual. Matchmaking in casual doesnt work well. I go into there to do my dailies with fully powered decks with classes Im not that confortable and sometimes Im paired with people with mostly basic cards. It hurts to obliterate them and usually I add them to apologize after the match because I know it can be discouraging to have someone curve you out sylvanas into dr boom into ragnaros.
poppedcollar69
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sounds like you were going to win either way
Welcome to drugstone. Preapare to the Saltstorm and embrace rngsus.
I like when he plays hearthstone.
I dislike when he doesn't think about his plays when on ladder.
I love when he dicks around in arena
Vanillalite
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I finally created a 2nd Goblin Blastmage. I'll post what I've settled on for now in terms of a deck later. Thanks for all of your help in tweaking my deck over the past week though GAF!
KojiKnight
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Meta seems to have hit a hard shift all of a sudden in NA... Went from mostly playing aggro decks (face hunter, mech mage, aggro pally) to mid game and control decks (priest, mid game pally, even zoo!).
Too lazy to dust off/update my ramp druid so I think I'll just sit out a day or two and see if we come back around full circle.
Too lazy to dust off/update my ramp druid so I think I'll just sit out a day or two and see if we come back around full circle.
Man I don't know. I go up against this paladin, and he's always playing around exactly the card I have. I topdeck a mirror entity and I play it and a minion and he doesn't hesitate to kill the belcher before dropping the little charge murloc. The very next turn I drop a minion and duplicate and he avoids it like the plague.
Haunted
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I can't believe how much trouble Trump has climbing the ladder this season. Getting negative winrates in a day around rank 10/11.
What is happening on the ladder?
edit: I'm 1-6 today, trying to complete my daily (5 wins with Warlock and Shaman).
edit²: ok, 1-8, went from rank 11 to 13, no idea what's going on. mountains of salt.
What is happening on the ladder?
edit: I'm 1-6 today, trying to complete my daily (5 wins with Warlock and Shaman).
edit²: ok, 1-8, went from rank 11 to 13, no idea what's going on. mountains of salt.
Mobius and pet octopus
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So I had some free time and decided to spend it updating the FAQ section of the OP.
http://pastebin.com/HUMj8gpL
It could use an arena section, and maybe some formatting, but I'm needed elsewhere atm.
http://pastebin.com/HUMj8gpL
It could use an arena section, and maybe some formatting, but I'm needed elsewhere atm.
Haunted
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That's totally possible. I'm usually watching the YT videos (and not immediately as they come out), so I'm probably a week or two behind.
Point is, he did have some trouble during the climb. More so than usual, at least.
AntiFacebook
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Playing my giantodin, i have Tirion and KT down, he has ragnaros. I got redemption secret. He savage roar + force of nature, kill my tirion once, then twice, then ragnaros kill my KT but KT still spawn 2 tirions.
He instaconcede and i laugh to death
They still haven't fixed the Ragnaros\KT bug?
He was at Rank 1 Legend yesterday so I assume you're seeing his EU account.I can't believe how much trouble Trump has climbing the ladder this season. Getting negative winrates in a day around rank 10/11.
What is happening on the ladder?
edit: I'm 1-6 today, trying to complete my daily (5 wins with Warlock and Shaman).
edit²: ok, 1-8, went from rank 11 to 13, no idea what's going on. mountains of salt.
They did, he didn't say that KT revived himself as well. Basically, KT resolved his effect and revived the two Tirions before Ragnaros killed him.
Here is my collection spreadsheet for the OP as well.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1p94gq_GGTw8L1MeyBOCwoGu6nsjcGP8W_U9vsL8hTLQ/edit?usp=sharing
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1p94gq_GGTw8L1MeyBOCwoGu6nsjcGP8W_U9vsL8hTLQ/edit?usp=sharing
I bet it's reynold, dude doesn't get along with trump and is always salty about people being more popular
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thepotatoman
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Are you dying while still having full board control? Then add a Healbot, otherwise don't. It's not a good card to simply play into a losing situation.
What's so bad about them?
Even if I haven't done something important with Stoneskin Gargoyle yet, I've seen opponents do stupid things just to remove it, so I've left it there. And it goes well with the buffs.
Not really, so I suppose that answers my question, thanks!
There is one major problem with running minions that have 1/4 stats and it's that they are usually don't kill things when trading off. It gives your opponent the chance to 2 for 1 you with a card. So while your opponent is not going out of their way to remove those cards, it's possibly because they don't need too or they aren't threats without a buff.
1/4 stats are also what you would expect to see on a 2 drop, but Gnomer and Gargoyle are 3 drops, which means your opponent gets even more value when killing them with their 1 or 2 drops.
Those are cards that can put you behind very easily and leave you scratching your head wondering how your opponent has the board, has card advantage, and has more health.
Edit:
I thought I would mention a good 1/4 minion. The Warlock card Mistress of Pain is a 2 cost 1/4 that heals the Hero equal to damage she deals. So she has a below average stat line, but face healing is very important for Warlocks. She is ran with power overwhelming, Abusive Sarg, and Defender of Argus to pump up the stats to more usable levels. Also note that she is not an auto-include, you need the support cards to make her play well.
FiveSix4Three
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Anyone play in any of the f2p tournies floating around?
If so...which do you recommend and how long do they take on average per round.
If so...which do you recommend and how long do they take on average per round.
Thanks. I'll swap them for other minions then. I'm considering Mind Control Tech, Shade of Naxxramas, Earthen Ring Farseer, Razorfen Hunter or Injured Blademaster.
I think MCT is good if things go out of control but I don't really know if I like its randomness.
Super Nothing
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Injured Blademaster isn't particularly useful to Paladins. You're only running one healing card, and that costs 8 mana, so you're not likely to ever heal him up to 7 health meaning he's just a 4/3. There's a reason you really only see them in Priest decks. At least Earthen Ring Farseer can heal you or other minions and Mind Control Tech can swing the board if you're behind. Razorfen Hunter isn't great.
MC Tech is OK for it's stats if you have to just play it onto the board. Randomly taking an enemy unit, puts the card in the crazy powerful territory. It almost doesn't matter what it grabs, even taking a 1/1 makes it better than almost any other 3 mana play. The problem is that you won't always be able to take something, but right now it's a pretty good card to squeeze into any deck. So I would only run a single copy and be prepared to hold on to it for a few rounds.
Shade of Nax is great for any deck that has buff cards or benefits from having a body on the board. If you can hold it back for a turn or two before attacking with it even better.
Earthen Ring is a good card if you need efficient healing. It's used in Rogue a lot because they spend a lot of time hitting things with that tiny dagger and so any hp recovery means a lot.
Razorfen is a fairly weak card for the same reason the 1/4s are. It gives your opponent the chance to make favorable trades.
Injured Blademaster is a great card if you have access to healing. It's a good card stat wise, but can be great in healing combos. It's a staple in most priest decks.
For the deck you listed, I would suggest another Shielded Mini bot as their great targets for buff cards.
If you're looking for a 3 drop specifically try these
Raging Worgen - When damaged it gains windfury and bonus damage, so buffing him up turns him into a game winning minion.
Scarlet Crusader - The Divine shield usually allows her to live that extra round so you can get your buff on her or allow her to trade into an enemy.
I only have that Shielded Minibot so that's why I only have one, but I have a Raging Worgen around so I'll definitely use it.
Yes. I've gone back to look at everyone's fan made cards a few pages back just to sate my new card cravings.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Playing control paladin vs midrange hunter is a blast from the past, except it is 10x easier now that they can't draw a bazillion cards off buzz/UTH combo. But even back then I felt control paladin was favored, despite a lot of people claiming paladin was dead.
Also, this one was running rag. Highmane turn 6, highmane turn 7, ragnaros turn 8... = REKT HARD
Also, this one was running rag. Highmane turn 6, highmane turn 7, ragnaros turn 8... = REKT HARD
Professor Lich
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Ah this rate we'll probably only get a few every Tuesday. Only three weeks away so it's not too terribly long.
Not sure how long you've played Blizzard games, but you should get used to the term SoonTM.
Mine are a little more normal, but my paladin win rate feels really low, considering it was my best arena class pre-Naxx(I didn't start playing HS again and logging arenas until after the GvG launch). Still, I've only logged 34 runs since I started recording my arena stats.
mage: 66.96%
priest: 65.85%
hunter: 59.82%
druid: 57.69%
rogue: 47.62%
paladin: 45.92%
shaman: 31.43%
warlock: 16.67%
warrior: NA
Overall: 56.95%
I don't have any runs logged with Warrior yet, and the sample size for rogue and warlock are still very tiny(10 and 3 games, respectively). My overall win rate as mage is the highest, but I feel like priest is my most consistent class in arena. My mage runs tend to be 10+ or 2-3, and I feel like I go 7+ with priest more consistently.
Apparently I'm much better with the coin than without - my win rate shoots up to 62.83% if I go second.
Every run that I try to play shaman goes terribly, which is ironic, considering that I've mained shaman in wow for 9 years now.
Are we posting our arena stats now? Here is my HearthArena profile: http://www.heartharena.com/profile/gutshot
Shaman: 70.0%
Mage: 69.23%
Druid: 67.65%
Priest: 65.85%
Paladin: 65.0%
Warlock: 62.5%
Warrior: 62.5%
Rogue: 60.0%
Hunter: 50.0%
Overall: 64.8%
This has all been since around when GvG launched. If you take into account my pre-GvG arena runs, it would bring everything down.
Shaman: 70.0%
Mage: 69.23%
Druid: 67.65%
Priest: 65.85%
Paladin: 65.0%
Warlock: 62.5%
Warrior: 62.5%
Rogue: 60.0%
Hunter: 50.0%
Overall: 64.8%
This has all been since around when GvG launched. If you take into account my pre-GvG arena runs, it would bring everything down.
TetraxShards
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Just beat a Zoolock with Randuin Wrynn. Funniest game I have ever played.
Highlights:
- Getting Dr Balance from a Mindgames
- Getting a Weblord from a Shredder so he couldn't play his Dr Balance
- Getting a Pit Lord from a Piloted Sky Golem
- Mad Bomber killing his Swamp Ooze AND his Damaged Harvest Golem. Best bomber ever.
- Playing double Shadowboxer and then he used Healbot on himself, which killed his Flame Imp.
- In the end, he got so mad he double Hellfired and tapped to kill himself.
I wish I'd recorded it.
The sad part is, I probably used like three months worth of RNG on that game.
Highlights:
- Getting Dr Balance from a Mindgames
- Getting a Weblord from a Shredder so he couldn't play his Dr Balance
- Getting a Pit Lord from a Piloted Sky Golem
- Mad Bomber killing his Swamp Ooze AND his Damaged Harvest Golem. Best bomber ever.
- Playing double Shadowboxer and then he used Healbot on himself, which killed his Flame Imp.
- In the end, he got so mad he double Hellfired and tapped to kill himself.
I wish I'd recorded it.
The sad part is, I probably used like three months worth of RNG on that game.
I guess I can just post mine too! http://www.heartharena.com/profile/etiira
If my pre-GvG stuff was counted, my stats would definitely be higher, but the competition wasn't nearly as steep during closed beta. =P
So, any shaman arena tips? I feel like I need a godly draft to even break even as one right now, which obviously means there's something very wrong with my play as the class.
Don't know how much help I can offer, unfortunately. My shaman win rate is so high simply because I've only had one run and got a really good deck.
Shaman definitely feels like one of those arena classes that is highly draft dependent.
It all depends on how many whirling zap-o-matics of doom you can draft. Seeing one of those on turn 1 or 2 in arena gives me the same kick in the gut feeling that turn one Undertaker used to give me.
"Weeeee"
toddhunter
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That helps, but basically anything Shaman has will get recked by flamestrike. So 6 or 7 fire elementals will keep you competitive.
Random thought I had...
I don't think Cairne is ever coming back (unless they buff him). Not that it's a bad card.... but it's basically just a more "consistent" Skygolem now.
Think about it... the 4-5 health of the starting minion doesn't matter as much as the attack damage. A Skygolem's 6 attack is far more threatening than Cairne's 4 attack, allowing it to trade up while still having a minion on the board. On average Cairne's Deathrattle is better than Skygolem's but there's a chance that Skygolem can spit out a Pitlord or even a charger that can win you the game.
And then you factor in that you can have TWO Skygolems in your deck compared to only one Cairne. I guess you can make the argument that Skygolem is more susceptible to Shadow Word Death but come on... if the Priest is forced to use a spell on a Skygolem then that just means your other bigger Legendaries will get to go ham.
I don't think Cairne is ever coming back (unless they buff him). Not that it's a bad card.... but it's basically just a more "consistent" Skygolem now.
Think about it... the 4-5 health of the starting minion doesn't matter as much as the attack damage. A Skygolem's 6 attack is far more threatening than Cairne's 4 attack, allowing it to trade up while still having a minion on the board. On average Cairne's Deathrattle is better than Skygolem's but there's a chance that Skygolem can spit out a Pitlord or even a charger that can win you the game.
And then you factor in that you can have TWO Skygolems in your deck compared to only one Cairne. I guess you can make the argument that Skygolem is more susceptible to Shadow Word Death but come on... if the Priest is forced to use a spell on a Skygolem then that just means your other bigger Legendaries will get to go ham.
You lose them in a couple of weeks anyway. Let go of the anxiety and just play it out. At least you can work towards golden heroes in ranked. Your actual rank doesn't really matter.
Stared a game with face hunter today before work and realized I only had 5 minutes. The warlock played his void walker and let the timer run so I was fully expecting to surrender. After he stopped running the clock I got one of the fastest wins ever.
I really want to build a shaman deck but I don't know what to do on budget. I could probably craft one legendary.
Edit if anyone wants to help I have beaten nax, have about 30 packs worth of standard and maybe three cvgs.
I really want to build a shaman deck but I don't know what to do on budget. I could probably craft one legendary.
Edit if anyone wants to help I have beaten nax, have about 30 packs worth of standard and maybe three cvgs.
Yeah, even if the deathrattle minion is worse than a 4/5 on average, I think a big strength of the new shredders is that the opponent will normally need to clear both minions on the turn where they clear the first part, but they don't actually know what they need to do to kill the second until it comes out.
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