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Hearthstone |OT3| Preparing for the Ball of Spiders Meta
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Sitting on 9000 dust, and 1600 more if I DE this Golden Cho.
I think with the advent of serious dragon cards, it's time I craft an Alexstrasza. She'll slot into dragon-themed decks nicely, give Rag a boost if I ever want to give Domo a go, and make Warrior and some Mage decks come alive as well.
I may also want to finally sink my teeth into Warrior. That's the class I'd have to spend the dust on the most to have some real decks with. I'd need to make Alex, Grom, a Crush or two (I think?), probably 1 Bouncing Blade, and maybe an Iron Juggernaut.
I think with the advent of serious dragon cards, it's time I craft an Alexstrasza. She'll slot into dragon-themed decks nicely, give Rag a boost if I ever want to give Domo a go, and make Warrior and some Mage decks come alive as well.
I may also want to finally sink my teeth into Warrior. That's the class I'd have to spend the dust on the most to have some real decks with. I'd need to make Alex, Grom, a Crush or two (I think?), probably 1 Bouncing Blade, and maybe an Iron Juggernaut.
hypersheep
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I really enjoy the theme of Blackrock Mountain. It was pretty funny entering the third wing and Nefarian is all "uh, what the hell are you doing, please click the back button, nothing to see here".
Even the 4 slot is pretty anemic. I wouldn't consider that to be an above average draft myself.
"There are no Ragnaroses up here! Go away!"
Somehow, Ragnaros in the plural form is hilarious
Alex is pretty clunky if your game plan doesn't fit around her. Using her for healing is pretty weak. I think Onyxia makes more sense if you just need a late game dragon.
So 3-3 for your second arenarun is a disappointment for you?
Reign in your expectations dude.
That deck doesn't survive past turn 8.
Offerings were horrible.
Better than my first run: 0-3.
First draft of my Dragon Paladin, it will obviously be better once we get more of the BRM cards released. 2-0 so far, but only in casual while I playtest it.
Took out both Coghammers, added in 1xTwilight Drake and 1 more Healbot. Beat someone else's Dragon Pally (They were running Malygos, but didn't play any spells against me. Unless they were saving them, pretty poor choice for a late game Dragon) and played 2 Axe Flinger/Grim Patron warriors in a row, and beat them both pretty handily.
Was able to play Truesilver and a 6 mana Onyxia in the same turn (Dragon Consort + 1 turn of Emperor T.) in the last game I played, which resulted in a concession from my opponent.
Anyone else trying out the new cards today?
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
A buddy of mine started playing HS today because of iPhone release
Later today, I saw him buy Naxx
My god, blizz is earning so much from this launch
Later today, I saw him buy Naxx
My god, blizz is earning so much from this launch
Super Nothing
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Crush and Bouncing Blade aren't all that common in Warrior decks. I'd craft a Brawl and 2 Shield Slams before either of those, if you don't already have them. If you do already have Brawl and Shield Slam, Bouncing Blade and Crush aren't really that important, you can save your dust for something else.
So I have been playing this off and on for the past year or so, but I just recently came back because of the phone update.
I have like 500 coins right now. What is the best use of coins for someone who doesn't have a lot of extra cards? Should I be buying the Blackrock Mountain stuff? Arena tickets? Or just buy a bunch of card packs?
I have like 500 coins right now. What is the best use of coins for someone who doesn't have a lot of extra cards? Should I be buying the Blackrock Mountain stuff? Arena tickets? Or just buy a bunch of card packs?
Card packs.
How many cards do you have in classic?
You can get back more than the entry fee (150 coins) if you can do well in arena (12 wins).
3+ wins will get you close back to the entry fee (some coins, a card, and a GvG booster pack).
A card pack = 100 gold
An arena ticket = 150 gold
This means that since you're guaranteed a pack as a reward in arena, you need 50 gold in reward on top of that to break even value-wise. 50 gold is somewhere in the region of averaging 3-4 wins.
This is without taking the (lack of?) enjoyment you get from arena into account.
Thanks guys.
I enjoy arena, but I'm pretty novice at the game, so I never seem to draft very well, and typically only win 1-2 because of it.
Should I just go vanilla card packs or the goblins/gnomes?
call_kotaku
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So is dragon consort really that good right now, or are the other dragons in the set (chromaggus, hungry dragon) necessary?
poppedcollar69
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someone let me spectate them for the pack quest!!
ben#1275
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I don't understand how you guys got lucky beating him with Kelthuzad.
Anytime I had Kelthuzad out he either had Twisting Nether or that one card that kills your minions and gains him armor. I even had the dream of Belcher + Kelthuzad + Faceless on Kelthuzad after I survived two Twisters...
Anytime I had Kelthuzad out he either had Twisting Nether or that one card that kills your minions and gains him armor. I even had the dream of Belcher + Kelthuzad + Faceless on Kelthuzad after I survived two Twisters...
It should be in 8 minutes.
I don't know. It's a good card, I think it'll be better after all the wings are out. I don't know if Dragon Paladin, as it exists at this moment, is better than standard Midrange. The version I'm playing definitely isn't, but there's a lot of people experimenting right now.
I feel like the deck isn't complete until Blackwing Corrupter and Volcanic Drake. Arguably Nef too. Two synergy cards isn't enough to push it over standard midrange IMO. It also might be weak in general as long as Face Hunter is popular. Dragon Paladin feels like a high power midrange deck that puts out more threats than a standard control deck can handle. I think its possible the deck might need better dragons and dragon synergy cards than are currently in the game.
Its Ok, I think it will be much stronger with the other dragons though.
Since Executus likes to hoard cards in his hand and spam hero power, I figured mill rogue might work against him. It took a few tries but I managed to burst him and Ragnaros with fatigue (and poisoned blade! 
) for exact lethal before getting destroyed by giants. I got to say, this deck is really fun to play when everything clicks.
) for exact lethal before getting destroyed by giants. I got to say, this deck is really fun to play when everything clicks. 
this was earlier, I got lucky, he seems to only have one Twisting Nether:
All heroics complete now!
Nah he has two Twisting Nethers.
But he has a code where if he has a certain number of his own creatures on board he won't use Twisters. That's why once you have Kelthuzad set up you just keep going face... do not try to clear his board because if you do he will use Twisting Nether real quick.
But he has a code where if he has a certain number of his own creatures on board he won't use Twisters. That's why once you have Kelthuzad set up you just keep going face... do not try to clear his board because if you do he will use Twisting Nether real quick.
I think after the Hunter challenge in Naxx, Blizzard decided that what people wanted was odd, crazy battles with lots of RNG.
Super Nothing
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I had a similar thing happen. I had Sneed's, KT, and a Force Tank out. I traded Sneed's and the Force Tank and got Mimiron. My minions revived, and next turn V-07-TR-0N popped out. I even had a Rock Biter ready to cast on him.
That explains why I only saw one. I had a Twisting Nether clear my board, but my mecha spawned a lowly taunt and my deathrattle demon put a 6/6 on the board. So after the Nether I just played KT and went all face and he never Nethered again. Easy win.
Super Nothing
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I did it with Priest relatively easily. My deck could've been a lot better, but I didn't really know what to expect. It worked out in the end anyway.
Played about 10 games with Dragon Paladin. At least 4 games were against another Dragon Paladin though I won against all Dragon Paladin. This was on Casual, not ranked play so take that as you may.
Decklist had Ysera in it and Malygos substituting for Onyxia which I don't have. No Tirion either as I don't have that either.
Decklist:
2x Zombie Chow
2x Aldor
2x Shielded Minibot
1x Muster for Battle
2x Truesilver
2x Consecrate
2x Equality
2x Blackwing Technician
2x Twilight Drake
2x Belcher
2x Azure Drake
2x Dragon Consort
1x Emperor Balanced
1x Rend Blackhand
1x Dr Balanced
1x Ragnaros
1x Lay on Hands
1x Ysera
1x Malygos
First edition of this deck had no Belcher and I got swarmed by Mech Mage which prompted me to go back to Belcher immediately. Just can't live without that card in an aggressive meta.
Main points with this deck:
*Rend Blackhand did work. So far I have killed a Ysera and a Ragnaros with it when otherwise I had no option to deal with them. They were able to take out my Rend Blackhand relatively easily (one time with BGH one time with Aldor plus Truesilver) but in a control match up it got to hit something.
*Blackwing Technician is not as powerful as you may think. Yeah 3/5 are outrageous stats but it still gets killed by their Piloted Shredder. Problem is that this card just isn't "sticky" like all the other crap people run. The 3 drop against this card is Spider Tank which usually gets ramped up fast by Mech Warper or Naxxramus or Blademaster/Dark Cultist... both of which you will be seeing a lot of thanks to resurrect Priest. Overall Blackwing is good but not godly so far in constructed.
*Twilight Drake has been putting in work. It hasn't been silenced that often and if it does it takes the pressure off of the other Legendaries. I am thinking Twilight Drake will do more work than Hungry Dragon but we'll see. On average I have been playing it as a 4/6 but it's usually just there as a follow up to Blackwing Technician.
*Unfortunately in this deck Dragon Consort really has very few good targets. I got off a couple of early Yseras on turn 7 but it wasn't game breaking. It was more impactful for me to get out a 3 mana Azure Drake then play something else. If I had stuff like Onyxia/Chromaggus/Nefarian/Alex then this card would've done a lot more work.. The 5/5 body itself does work though even if the game is over before you get the effect off.
*Dr Balanced and Emperor do way too much work to not include in this deck. Ragnaros I put in and had always been doing work... giving me reach here and there.
*Would've played Tirion in this deck too if i had it.
Not too bad for a half assed dragon deck. If Rend Blackhand had even 1 more HP it would've been insanely good but right now it's just decent for Dragon Pally.
Decklist had Ysera in it and Malygos substituting for Onyxia which I don't have. No Tirion either as I don't have that either.
Decklist:
2x Zombie Chow
2x Aldor
2x Shielded Minibot
1x Muster for Battle
2x Truesilver
2x Consecrate
2x Equality
2x Blackwing Technician
2x Twilight Drake
2x Belcher
2x Azure Drake
2x Dragon Consort
1x Emperor Balanced
1x Rend Blackhand
1x Dr Balanced
1x Ragnaros
1x Lay on Hands
1x Ysera
1x Malygos
First edition of this deck had no Belcher and I got swarmed by Mech Mage which prompted me to go back to Belcher immediately. Just can't live without that card in an aggressive meta.
Main points with this deck:
*Rend Blackhand did work. So far I have killed a Ysera and a Ragnaros with it when otherwise I had no option to deal with them. They were able to take out my Rend Blackhand relatively easily (one time with BGH one time with Aldor plus Truesilver) but in a control match up it got to hit something.
*Blackwing Technician is not as powerful as you may think. Yeah 3/5 are outrageous stats but it still gets killed by their Piloted Shredder. Problem is that this card just isn't "sticky" like all the other crap people run. The 3 drop against this card is Spider Tank which usually gets ramped up fast by Mech Warper or Naxxramus or Blademaster/Dark Cultist... both of which you will be seeing a lot of thanks to resurrect Priest. Overall Blackwing is good but not godly so far in constructed.
*Twilight Drake has been putting in work. It hasn't been silenced that often and if it does it takes the pressure off of the other Legendaries. I am thinking Twilight Drake will do more work than Hungry Dragon but we'll see. On average I have been playing it as a 4/6 but it's usually just there as a follow up to Blackwing Technician.
*Unfortunately in this deck Dragon Consort really has very few good targets. I got off a couple of early Yseras on turn 7 but it wasn't game breaking. It was more impactful for me to get out a 3 mana Azure Drake then play something else. If I had stuff like Onyxia/Chromaggus/Nefarian/Alex then this card would've done a lot more work.. The 5/5 body itself does work though even if the game is over before you get the effect off.
*Dr Balanced and Emperor do way too much work to not include in this deck. Ragnaros I put in and had always been doing work... giving me reach here and there.
*Would've played Tirion in this deck too if i had it.
Not too bad for a half assed dragon deck. If Rend Blackhand had even 1 more HP it would've been insanely good but right now it's just decent for Dragon Pally.
Using Dark Whispers in the Druid challenge... pretty fun spamming Wisps and then suiciding them for free Dragons and Volcanic Lumberers.
"Costs x less for each minion that died this turn" mechanics are going to give you some crazy tempo swings.
Already theorycrafting a Solemn Vigil + Volcanic Drake + Dragon Consort + Thaurissan + Consequality + Muster deck...
"Costs x less for each minion that died this turn" mechanics are going to give you some crazy tempo swings.
Already theorycrafting a Solemn Vigil + Volcanic Drake + Dragon Consort + Thaurissan + Consequality + Muster deck...
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