The skill of the player population isn't static. As new players come in and previously new players become old players, the earlier ranks are becoming more and more competitive. Everyone is getting better at the same time.
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Mobius and pet octopus
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I think we're at a point in the game's life where even players at ranks 16 and up have managed to amass some legendaries in their collection and are playing them in their netdecks.
Also consider that the Rank 15 threshold is actually the entry into the top 25% of players.
That looks like the reallllly old chart.
BlackBuzzard
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15 more minutes of viagame video shenanigans.
Haunted
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Well post the new one and we'll use that one instead and I'll edit. Also, does the new one undermine the point I was trying to make?
I think we're at a point in the game's life where even players at ranks 16 and up have managed to amass some legendaries in their collection and are playing them in their netdecks.
Also consider that the Rank 15 threshold is actually the entry into the top 25% of players.
Okay, that's some interesting statistics, I did not know that.
But I'm not even trying to get past rank 15 at this point, like I said I slipped down to 18. I'd be happy to finish up at 15.
Anyway I've cobbled together a Face Hunter deck from looking at HearthPwn and then making some substitutions for cards I don't have:
I'm sure it's crap by GAF standards, but there we go.
Haunted
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There's no GAF standards, we have all sorts of players here from rank 20 to legend.
Looks pretty good to me. I assume you have no second Unleash or Bow or you would've put them in.
If you have Piloted Shredders, I'd get them in there instead of Ironforge Riflemen. Hunter's Mark is also a good card if you have that, maybe instead of the Deadly Shot. You can win games with that deck.
I think we're at a point in the game's life where even players at ranks 16 and up have managed to amass some legendaries in their collection and are playing them in their netdecks.
Also consider that the Rank 15 threshold is actually the entry into the top 25% of players.
Huh, guess I am pretty decent at this game then or everyone under level 15 is incredibly terrible.
I haven't lost a single game with my old Zoolock deck that has been the same since Naxxramas. lol
Professor Lich
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Going to agree with Haunted here, for 3 mana the Riflemen don't really do enough. You'll either want more low cost you can play along with your hero power. Same with the Commando, 5 mana is a lot to pay for only two damage.
I understand if you don't have the cards, just trying to help with understanding how it all comes together.
I understand if you don't have the cards, just trying to help with understanding how it all comes together.
I never play Velen unless if I need to. He's there to execute the 10/20 damage burst for the kill. I think the only time I'd play him without the kill is if I really need to heal, which can also be game winning depending on the situation. 10 health from Velen, Light of the Naruu, and hero power.
There's no GAF standards, we have all sorts of players here from rank 20 to legend.
Looks pretty good to me. I assume you have no second Unleash or Bow or you would've put them in.
If you have Piloted Shredders, I'd get them in there instead of Ironforge Riflemen. Hunter's Mark is also a good card if you have that, maybe instead of the Deadly Shot. You can win games with that deck.
Thanks for the suggestions, I'll make those changes. And yeah I only have 1 of those cards you mention.
Haunted
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Naxx and Blackrock are the best value you can get to expand your card collection atm. Naxx has very strong commons and rares (Haunted Creeper, Mad Scientist, Sludge Belchers) and Blackrock has some cool dragons as well as a gamechanging legendary (Emperor Thaurissan).
Definitely worth going for both, imo.
Buying the first two wings of Naxx and then first wing of BRM with gold is considered the most economical route. Then complete Naxx first then BRM second.
Vanillalite
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Unstable Ghoul
Annoy
Sludge
Sen'Jin
Healbot
Not counting various class specific cards like mirror image.
Also Kezan is great against face hunter.
Going to finish Rank 11 unless I ladder today.
Ah well. Highest I've been.
Here's mine:
The game sometimes ends by turn 4/5.
Ah well. Highest I've been.
Here's mine:
The game sometimes ends by turn 4/5.
You should never craft commons. I also would avoid crafting rares, unless there is a specific deck you have in mind and you are just missing one or two rares. But, as a general rule of thumb, you're much better off remaining patient and getting all your commons and rares from packs and then using your dust on epics and legendaries.
I would save up for Dr. Boom. Not only is he a great card that can go in a lot of decks, he is a good investment since you will likely get all your dust back at some point.
Here's mine:
The game sometimes ends by turn 4/5.
I've no Arcane Golem unfortunately.
And although my deck is quite similar to yours, I am struggling to get past rank 18
rangersfan414
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I keep track of my arena rewards and statistically 12 wins is still the best and the biggest jump in reward is from 6 wins to 7 wins.
Oh right.
Was looking forward to this when lastflowers mentioned it in the Windows thread a couple weekends ago.
Thanks.
Professor Lich
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So I'm trying something out with my Priest deck and hopefully it turns out well. Long story short, I've lost a few games due to Zombie Chow healing for 5/10 so instead I'm going to see if Light Wardens make any difference. It'll probably be worse but I have to see how it turns out.
Auchenai Soulpriest + Zombie Chow.
Professor Lich
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I'm running Shreddes instead of Auchenai. I don't want to run Circle because you also need to run Blademasters as well for it to be worthwhile. They all kind of run together, or at least that's how I feel.
OOOaaaaauuuuuuggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
lol
Picked Mage at arena.
No flamestrikes, sheep, or fireballs, so I picked a lot of 2 drops.
This game.
toddhunter
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Stars are in ranked.
You can only re-roll one quest a day so it isn't bugged.
You are accidentally conceding.
You get one star for each rank you got to during the previous season. According to the chart here you'll be at rank 21.
MetroidPrimeRib
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And just FYI the start of the season is painful to level up in because everyone who was good last season shot back up.
Edit: just now figured out Injured Blademaster says "MEDIC!" and not "MURDER!"
Edit: just now figured out Injured Blademaster says "MEDIC!" and not "MURDER!"
BlackBuzzard
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Strifecro lol.
So, I'm thinking of starting to take this game a little more seriously. I've been blindly playing every couple months for about a year but have started watching some basic Trump videos.
I'm playing his basic Mage control deck and managed to get to Rank 24 and wanna try for 20 this season.
Is that too much of a challenge? Will I get crushed if I keep running such a basic deck?
I'm playing his basic Mage control deck and managed to get to Rank 24 and wanna try for 20 this season.
Is that too much of a challenge? Will I get crushed if I keep running such a basic deck?
Getting to rank 20 is pretty easy but beyond 20 is where things get tough for new players.
Mostly because that 18-20 rank happens to be the "gold" portrait farmer territory.
I sometimes play on my EU account for kicks and this is the general pattern I have seen.
I've determined that you have to draft a very aggressive deck to win with hunter in arena. Your hero power can't affect the board but gives really good reach for closing out games. Not saying to always go face, trade up if you can, but I always go face if even trades are available.
That's pretty much the definition of arena for every character. Aggression unless you can afford to play control.
Card selection is usually terrible.
rangersfan414
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Just drafted a deck where 13 cards are rare or better. Never gotten that many before.
Arena is definitely more aggressive these days... you can scumbag a ton of victories against much better decks if you just play risky and go for the push.
I had a pretty ok Paladin deck recently but it was very aggressive and had one Divine Favor in it. Went to 11 wins with it. Next game I had a good Mage deck (very high minion quality, Echo of Medivh, Flamestrike, Blizzard and Chromaggus) that was just missing Fireballs/Polymorphs... it went 2-3 because I just got rushed down before I got settled in and one game the Warlock just happened to have a much better deck than me (double Void Callers into double Floating Watcher, double Infernals, double Imp Gang Boss, Shadow Flame, double Implosions etc).
Your mentality for Arena should always be:
"If I make this play I can probably win the game" rather than "if I make this play then I probably won't lose the game".
I had a pretty ok Paladin deck recently but it was very aggressive and had one Divine Favor in it. Went to 11 wins with it. Next game I had a good Mage deck (very high minion quality, Echo of Medivh, Flamestrike, Blizzard and Chromaggus) that was just missing Fireballs/Polymorphs... it went 2-3 because I just got rushed down before I got settled in and one game the Warlock just happened to have a much better deck than me (double Void Callers into double Floating Watcher, double Infernals, double Imp Gang Boss, Shadow Flame, double Implosions etc).
Your mentality for Arena should always be:
"If I make this play I can probably win the game" rather than "if I make this play then I probably won't lose the game".
CountAntonius
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So stoked to use that Ninja deck tomorrow. It's by far the best looking one I've seen.
Yeah, Hunter in Arena is all about face damage. But that shouldn't be very surprising. Mage even plays that way, for the most part - with a typical solid mage deck you get out some early minions and then remove everything the other guy plays until you can burst them down. Paladin and Priest are the classes that want to play a longer game, and it's not a coincidence that those are the classes with relatively little burst and lots of healing, buffing, and card draw. Maybe Druid too if you draft a lot of trees.
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