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Hearthstone |OT3| Preparing for the Ball of Spiders Meta
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I doubt it will ever happen. Not only will it have serious balance issues (you think Mage is a problem in Arena, because that's nothing compared to what 2v2 will be like), but getting the UI to work on mobiles will be a nightmare.
Mobius and pet octopus
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It would discourage themselves, that is the point. For every person who has a 50%+ winrate, there is someone with a < 50% winrate. It would discourage people to know how often they lose.
I think more people are like reynad then they'd care to admit, as well.
Haunted
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Flimsy excuses!
People will be confused by more than 9 deck slots. People will be discouraged by seeing their winrate. People will pay 10 for a hero skin. Bah.
At least they're consistent in treating their fanbase like idiots.
Still, there are options. The stats don't have to be highly visible to everyone, just make it so I can access them somehow if I want to. That I have to resort to third party solutions means their design failed somewhere along the way.
Welcome to Hearthstone.
But that many Paladins in a row goes back to my previous responses questioning why the fuck there are that many Paladins right now.
Rng aside.
I don't think I have ever gone that many games in a row playing an unpopular class against the same unpopular class and still lost due to my opponent just outdrawing me at the start.
Lucky me.
Any suggestions for improvements to this Control Warrior deck?
It destroys Face Hunter and Patron Warrior, but I'm not sure about other match-ups where regular Control Warrior (with Alex and Grom) has an advantage. I don't have Alex or Grom. I lost hard to tempo mage a couple of times.
It destroys Face Hunter and Patron Warrior, but I'm not sure about other match-ups where regular Control Warrior (with Alex and Grom) has an advantage. I don't have Alex or Grom. I lost hard to tempo mage a couple of times.
Any suggestions for improvements to this Control Warrior deck?
It destroys Face Hunter and Patron Warrior, but I'm not sure about other match-ups where regular Control Warrior (with Alex and Grom) has an advantage. I don't have Alex or Grom. I lost hard to tempo mage a couple of times.
Alex and grom are pretty huge win conditions and go hand in hand most of the time sadly, don't think I have any experience playing control without them :/
There are some other legendarys you can use in place of moltens etc however, such as rag and ysera.
You will generally have so much armor it will be rare for them to bring much value.
Not sure about the mountains either, but like I said I don't have much experience playing the deck without the normal legendarys so I wouldn't know how they work at the moment.
The second shield slam is a must, it's one of your main removal cards.
Whirlwind isn't very good in a patron meta but it has its use against hunters, people usually only play 1 in the fill slot however, 2 is a little overboard.
I'm assuming a few of these are filler cards for cards you may not have so I'm unsure.
Mobius and pet octopus
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I think I want to try control warrior again. Dragon control warrior. Double brawl. Volcanic drakes. Rend. kelthuzad.
I'm not even sure if I have double brawl, so probably will settle for one. I even want to go a little old school and use korkron elites. Maybe it won't be so dragony and rend will be cut.
Something to think about.
I'm not even sure if I have double brawl, so probably will settle for one. I even want to go a little old school and use korkron elites. Maybe it won't be so dragony and rend will be cut.
Something to think about.
I don't have Ragnaros, Ysera or Geddon. I don't have two Shield Slams, but I could/should probably craft a second one.
The Whirlwinds have been doing some work against Hunters, although I see what you mean about them.
Should you run BGH as Control Warrior? With two Shield Slams and Executes with a billion ways to damage stuff, I'd assume you have enough removal anyway.
Edit: I had a match against Face Hunter where I started getting massive amounts of armour before Moltens were playable, but with ~50 effective health it's not like I needed Molten Giants to win that match anyway. They'd probably go before the Mountain Giants though.
BGH is still a must imo, obviously there's Boom everywhere but it also significantly improves the Handlock and general Control matchups. Against lategame decks four pieces of removal aren't that much in a deck like Control Warrior which, outside of the often unreliable Brawl, always addresses threats individually and doesn't start contesting the board with significant threats until turn 7 (6 if you count Shieldmaiden).
With the cards you're missing I'd either go towards a more midrange or a full-on dragon list. Don't like the giants at all.
With the cards you're missing I'd either go towards a more midrange or a full-on dragon list. Don't like the giants at all.
Dragon Control looks like the way to go. Looks like Ysera and Alex are still in most lists (no shit) but at least Nefarian is free.
Nerf Patrons to 7/7 so you can BGH them.
Super Nothing
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I think they should change it to where it summons a Patron with the same amount of health as the one that spawned it. So, if you play Grim Patron, Cruel Taskmaster, you end up with a 5/2 and a 3/2. Play Whirlwind and you wind up with a 5/1, 3/1, 3/1, and 3/1. It keeps them from multiplying out of control. It could be abused with something like Rampage, though.
Edit: ^^^^ What he said.
4/3 would nerf patron warrior while making the card more interesting for other archetypes like mage (patron in arena is really good for mage). That nerf u and the other guy propose just make the card strictly worse, which i'm not a fan of.
Knowing Blizzard they'll just add 1 mana to a combo piece and say "WOW NOW IT'S BALANCED"
Grim Patron is 3/3, dude.
4/3? Looks like a typo here.
Warsong doesn't buff a 4/3. Jesus, you're condescending sometimes.
Beginner's guide or overall? Trump's "Trump Teachings" Youtube series is pretty good at teaching you the basics.
That's frightening
Singularity42
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This right here. I only see patron against warriors. I see mad scientist and Dr everywhere.
From the things your saying it sounds like your deck is the problem. You probably have a bad mana curve or you depend on too many combos. Can you list what your deck is? If not try building your deck using these guidelines:
- At least 6 minions that are good with no combos & cost 2 or less. More cheap minions can be good, but include more card draw the lower your mana curve drops. (Acidic swamp ooze, River croc)
- A maximum of 8 spells, 6 is better. They should focus on removal of minions or card draw. (Fireball, Shadow word Death, Eviscerate, Lightning Bolt)
- Only 6 minions that cost more than 6+ mana. These minions should be good on their own. (Boulderfist Ogre, Stormwind Champion)
Don't have the cards for a freeze mage unfortunately. My mech deck is just the standard one except I replaced the two fel reavers with mech yeti since I don't have the reavers.
Super Nothing
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Dear god. Patron Warrior + Dr. Boom would be ridiculous. All those Whirlwinds going off and setting off the newly produced Boom Bots. Dr. Boom needs less health and the bots need reduced damage on deathrattle. I think either 2 flat damage on deathrattle or 0-3 so that the text on Dr. Boom is more accurate.
Grim Patron doesn't get played by any class but Warrior, and making it a 4/3 would make it pretty much unplayable there too. The problem isn't that they can charge, it's that you can produce so damn many of them. By changing the health of the new Patrons, you can curb that a bit. It becomes more difficult to produce a full board of them and it makes it easier for the other player to board wipe them.
Ugh. Getting my only 7+ attack minion BGHd in arena feels so bad.
T_T
1-3 with a godly mage deck. I just got countered by every turn, like getting my enemy to 15 health only to get my crusher mindcontrolled, my opponents getting insane tempo plays etc
At least the game took mercy on me and gave me Sneeds from the pack.
T_T
1-3 with a godly mage deck. I just got countered by every turn, like getting my enemy to 15 health only to get my crusher mindcontrolled, my opponents getting insane tempo plays etc
At least the game took mercy on me and gave me Sneeds from the pack.
There was a recent arena run on Trump's youtube where he went Warlock, picked up a Mountain Giant, (in an overall pretty mediocre deck) and actually went for the turn 4 Mountain Giant Handlock play and... opponent had BGH.
I would have conceded on the spot.
Maybe so, but it's an epic and so you can't expect your enemy to have it.
Oh no I am not saying you can play around it. I am saying if you get a choice of BGH then you should usually pick it unless you already have enough big body removals. Lately BGH has not let me down in Arena.
More teasing.
https://twitter.com/PlayHearthstone/status/608302573464854529/photo/1
"It wouldn’t be a night in the #Hearthstone Tavern without a good brawl! "
Tournament Mode?
https://twitter.com/PlayHearthstone/status/608302573464854529/photo/1
"It wouldn’t be a night in the #Hearthstone Tavern without a good brawl! "
Tournament Mode?
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
Makes me think multiplayer so either Tourny Mode or else 2 v 2.
Some sort of King of the Hill or Tournament seems likely to me.
More teasing.
https://twitter.com/PlayHearthstone/status/608302573464854529/photo/1
"It wouldn’t be a night in the #Hearthstone Tavern without a good brawl! "
Tournament Mode?
Grim Patron now a hero?
What was that mode in M:TG called again? Planechase? something like that'd be awesome.
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