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Hearthstone |OT3| Preparing for the Ball of Spiders Meta
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NobleGundam
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43^ in banana brawl debating to stop at 50 or keep going till it ends.
Edit: Achieved 50 mark. It's 5 till 12pm right now. I'm calling it quits lol
Edit: Achieved 50 mark. It's 5 till 12pm right now. I'm calling it quits lol
My priest deck was alternating wins and losses so I finally decided to try Patron tonight. Only got a few games in but just lost one so far at rank 7. It's really fun at least. Actually didn't see hardly any warriors all day today
It's not like it would leave them at a disadvantage tbh...
Hate to tell you that,but because of the lack of bonus stars in the higher ranks, rank 5 is halfway,not 10.
Speaking of, I tried to reach legend this season with druid.It started well with a winrate from 55-60 % last week,but yesterday it dropped to 40 and today to 30%.
I have no idea why that is.Warlock used to be my best match up,but today I lost every single game against them.
Dropped from rank 3 to 5.So yeah,I give up.
First problem is that Druid is bad vs Hunter, Patron and all types of Warlock. If you think Warlock is your best match up, that's part of your problems right there.
Yup and I'd say there's another spike around rank 3, that's where the no-streak gauntlet has weeded out almost all mediocre players and non-meta decks. You'll hardly see any clear misplays anymore and also start getting matched against low tier legend players (which really doesn't mean much though).
If anything, getting matched against low tier legend players makes it easier to rank up close to the end of season because they're less likely to be TriHard and may be experimenting with less consistent decks.
Nope. Paladin is stronk, but their most insane cards are rares and epics, not basic cards... also their hero power isn't op in arena.
Then play patron and ez legend rite?
Just had the GREATEST Priest vs Priest match EVER
As you can see I only had 4 HP left, while he had 30
He had 3 Northshire on the board, and only 4 cards left in his deck
There were 7 damaged minions in play, because of his Pyromancer
I played Circle of Healing, and he took 78 damage from fatigue
Poor guy. He was so sure of his win
As you can see I only had 4 HP left, while he had 30
He had 3 Northshire on the board, and only 4 cards left in his deck
There were 7 damaged minions in play, because of his Pyromancer
I played Circle of Healing, and he took 78 damage from fatigue
Poor guy. He was so sure of his win
Haunted
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I win streak dailies up until rank 12, then lose once and stop playing ranked.
That's been half my seasons in Hearthstone.
The other half is that I get back to ranked halfway into the season, win streak up to 9/10, then lose and go back to rank 10 and stop playing ranked.
What I'm trying to say is fuck
Their hero power is actually pretty strong in Arena.
Paladin has insane basic cards as well. Truesilver GG, Consecrate, Hammer of Wrath and Blessing of Kings are godlike.
Then their commons are amazing too with Argent Protector and Shielded Minibot.
Their rares are better than Mage's rare with Aldor and Muster for Battle (Muster for Battle has 3rd highest win rate in the game after Dr Balanced and Tirion).
By far the best class behind Mage and quite ahead the other classes.
RumblingRosco
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So Team Archon is hosting the "Archon Team League Championships" which I guess has a $250,000 prize pool. That is crazy money for team to pull together as a prize pool - there must be some substantial corporate sponsorships for this.
I played an anti aggro druid,and last week it did very well against most popular decks ( hunter,warlock,mage) or at least broke even( warrior,druid,Paladin.).
Team 5 is up to 50 members, according to a recent Ben Brode tweet.
And it looks like we will get at least two more adventures and/or expansion sets this year, bringing us to 3 total.
Probably a new card expansion in August or September. Then balance changes will be locked until Blizzcon. Another adventure at the end of the year.
The increased team size probably won't be utilized for cards or expansions, since their current pace is pretty good. More likely used for the side stuff like Tavern Brawl and cosmetics.
The increased team size probably won't be utilized for cards or expansions, since their current pace is pretty good. More likely used for the side stuff like Tavern Brawl and cosmetics.
FieryBalrog
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I don't understand Kripps video because he acts like control decks don't exist. Whereas Control Warrior and Handlock are both top tier decks right now (and have always been relevant). Other control decks go in and out of fashion too.
The traditional triangle has been Aggro > Control > Combo, which is pretty close to how it is in Hearthstone right now since Patron Warrior craps on Face Hunter, but gets crapped on by Handlock and Control Warrior, which get hit by aggro decks like Zoo.
The traditional triangle has been Aggro > Control > Combo, which is pretty close to how it is in Hearthstone right now since Patron Warrior craps on Face Hunter, but gets crapped on by Handlock and Control Warrior, which get hit by aggro decks like Zoo.
If you're going for an anti-aggro deck then there are so many other classes that can do it better, Deathlord Priest comes to mind. Druid has to be one of the worst for anti-aggro because of their weak removals.
There are some amazing Hearthstone science Youtube channels. Weird interactions like Bane of Doom on a dead minion (Violet Teacher + Knife Juggler can kill stuff before Bane of Doom actually goes off) only summoning a demon if it can kill the minion after it is re-summoned with full health in the graveyard. Yes, apparently that's how HS works.
NobleGundam
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I tried priest,never worked too well more,so I moved on to druid.
That worked well for quite sometime.
Draft better
Try to play on curve
Make value plays
Consider what the opponent could do on his turn, for example: t7 coming on mage, play around flamestrike?
Mobius and pet octopus
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Better drafting is usually a good place to start. http://www.heartharena.com/tierlist
Keep in mind that the list isn't the end all be all solution. A lot of card pick's value is based on your other card picks. I generally only refer to lists like these when I am unsure between two cards I consider to be good picks in a specific draft. Curve is as important as picking good cards. But there is also strategy in that as well, like you might want to pick a great card early on even if it doesn't fit your curve in the hopes that the randomness gives you good choices to curve out well.
If you're having trouble duing matches, watch some good arena players.
For legit inexperienced players I'd absolutely recommend using the HearthArena assisted drafting tool (where you have to manually input your choices) over just looking at the tier list as it explains its picks and gives you a great breakdown of the finished deck at the end. As you become more comfortable you can phase that out and only use it for specific tough choices. But drafting is only half of it (but arguably most of the fun), piloting in arena requires good planning, decision making and general card knowledge, so yeah you'll want to read some more in-depth guides and watch arena streamers like Ratsmah, Hafu or Kripp for that.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Oh man... dragon aggro paladin... with secrets to boot. People really do come up with some reallly shitty decks.
I feel the game is going to get even more aggressive with next expansion.
Every good 2,3,4 mana minion introduced in each expansion keeps expanding the possibilities for every class to go face.
Look at paladin, "oh crap paladin sucks, doesn't have early game". Then the class gets one of the best 2 mana minions as well as muster for battle. The outcome is that while midrange/control paladin have ways to survive early game, they can use the same tools to create insane early board pressure to simply go face.
I think we need some sort of taunted ancient watcher, something that you can use as tech against aggro but doesn't provide much value vs control.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Well, aggro paladin is really nothing new.
But putting dragons into it is about the dumbest thing possible. As the aggressor you can't hold back dragons to activate your dragon activated cards. Then throwing in secrets on top of dragons just leads to a hilariously bad deck.
Also, quite honestly I felt paladin's never lacked early game as much as people think. They lacked a way to snowball to close out a match.
Deathlord is pretty much that card, unfortunately its drawback is just too big to be viable outside of Priest.
FiveSix4Three
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Somehow beat a mage in arena with:
t1 mana wyrm
t2 juggler
t3 flamewaker
t4 mirror entity
My druid haul is pretty top heavy. Stabilized at 1 health and came back.
t1 mana wyrm
t2 juggler
t3 flamewaker
t4 mirror entity
My druid haul is pretty top heavy. Stabilized at 1 health and came back.
Yes Paladin is great, but doesn't feel unfair like Mage. Fireballs and flamestrikes just bend the rules of tempo too much.
I haven't had success with control warrior for a while now. It just feels so goddamn slow and clunky and has a high chance of drawing blank or outright a losing hand thanks to all the high cost cards in the deck. Patron warrior does so much more work right now.
BananasWithGuns
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If Blizzard is going to release an expansion in August as a lot of people are predicting, won't they have to announce that rather soon? As in, at some point in the next couple weeks?
FiveSix4Three
Member
Closing out a game with Flying Machine + Dark Wispers never gets old....especially in arena.
Apparently Blizzard has announced every expansion and adventure for HS at some sort of game conference. So I wouldn't expect an announcement until the next big conference, whenever that is.
EDIT: Looks like Gamescom could be when they would announce it, as they are heavily promoting their presence there. http://www.blizzgc.com/ Announce in early August, release in late Aug?
Mobius and pet octopus
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It also works in fatigue decks, like fatigue mage, mill decks as well, and probably paladin as well. I frankly think it is a little bit under-utilized, but maybe next expansion it could become premiere.
BananasWithGuns
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Make sense. Gamescom seems like the safe bet.
PAX Prime is in late August, I suppose that could be an option as well if the expansion ended up coming out in September rather than August.
veryslowhand
Banned
got a hogger in a pack, where could I try to fit it? or is just 400 dust?
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