Mobius and pet octopus
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Generally only oil/miracle rogue runs prep. If you want to run rogue without prep, aggro rogue almost never runs prep.
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Generally only oil/miracle rogue runs prep. If you want to run rogue without prep, aggro rogue almost never runs prep.
Prep for Rogue is as good a craft, at this point, as Grommash is for Warrior.
A long time ago I advised against crafting Prep because I considered it "narrow" but this is no longer true. As long as Rogue remains the "string cards together" class, Prep will always have a home somewhere so you might as well craft it now. Two Preps are much more efficient than, for example, a single Van Cleef. And the despair associated with opening a Prep after crafting a Prep is much lower than crafting Alexstrasza and then opening Alexstrasza.
A long time ago I advised against crafting Prep because I considered it "narrow" but this is no longer true. As long as Rogue remains the "string cards together" class, Prep will always have a home somewhere so you might as well craft it now. Two Preps are much more efficient than, for example, a single Van Cleef. And the despair associated with opening a Prep after crafting a Prep is much lower than crafting Alexstrasza and then opening Alexstrasza.
Servbot #42
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LOL priest is pretty good, i just played double harrison and alextrasa vs control warrior thanks to Thoughtsteal.
Always sad to see Priest at the bottom of most rankings. Easily my preferred class and my only golden hero (recently acquired!) and the most fun to play and win with when things go right.
But yeah...you've really gotta have great draw and some RNG favour to do well consistently. I'm a little tired of losing half the time (or worse)...I'm going to investigate Warlock more this week and inch that way.
Is Mal'ganis pretty much mandatory? I've got 8000 dust I could use, and already have Jaraxxus and all the rares/epics, as well as some of the staple epics I see in lock decks (the giants, etc.)
But yeah...you've really gotta have great draw and some RNG favour to do well consistently. I'm a little tired of losing half the time (or worse)...I'm going to investigate Warlock more this week and inch that way.
Is Mal'ganis pretty much mandatory? I've got 8000 dust I could use, and already have Jaraxxus and all the rares/epics, as well as some of the staple epics I see in lock decks (the giants, etc.)
if they go northrend..........
BananasWithGuns
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Wouldn't label Mal'Ganis as a requirement really. Certainly nice to have him pop out of a Voidcaller but I don't think he'll necessarily make or break your deck.
Nope. Both Mal and Jaraxxus are just one variant of Handlock. You could go Giants instead.
Mal and Jaraxxxus are very fun, however.
MetroidPrimeRib
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Mal'ganis is good but he usually dies when he comes out. Most people above Rank 18 know that Voidcaller is going to spit out Doomguard or Mal'ganis, making it pretty easy to BGH Mal'Ganis on the enemies turn
Still, I keep him in for dropping on turn 9 with a board full of imps from imp-plosion for surprise lethal
Oh, for Handlock. Probably want to run Jaraxxus over Mal'Ganis.
Still, I keep him in for dropping on turn 9 with a board full of imps from imp-plosion for surprise lethal
Oh, for Handlock. Probably want to run Jaraxxus over Mal'Ganis.
Professor Lich
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Is there such a thing as a deck that is nothing but tech cards? I understand that it would be a horrible deck but it sounds kind of hilarious. A deck that counters everything but can't actually do anything.
Fixed1979
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I think they call it Priest.
Emerson
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Patron Warrior is the stupidest shit I've seen in a long time. It's just infuriating to play against on every level.
1) It's difficult to counter
2) In some cases can provide a one turn kill which is an objectively bad thing
3) It's extremely tedious to watch play out, and hearing the card's audio play over and over is super fucking annoying
The deck is rampant and has been top rated for many weeks straight, so I don't know how anyone could argue it doesn't warrant a nerf. It was one thing when people complained at first and over a month ago people were saying "just give it time, the meta will sort itself out, etc." but Patron is still dominant.
1) It's difficult to counter
2) In some cases can provide a one turn kill which is an objectively bad thing
3) It's extremely tedious to watch play out, and hearing the card's audio play over and over is super fucking annoying
The deck is rampant and has been top rated for many weeks straight, so I don't know how anyone could argue it doesn't warrant a nerf. It was one thing when people complained at first and over a month ago people were saying "just give it time, the meta will sort itself out, etc." but Patron is still dominant.
FormallyFamicom
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I actually did this with Priest, and I won a couple games lol.
daemissary
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StrifeCro had a grindy Mage deck that was kinda like this. Double BGH, healbot, MC tech, water elementals with duplicates to survive til late game with Antonidas and Chromaggus.
Yup, molten echo mage was the patron counter that I mentioned discovering a month ago. It's amazing against patron,
Yup i'm a fan of the deck, very fun to play with interesting decision making during games.
BananasWithGuns
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Grim Patron the card is fine I think.
The interaction between Warsong Commander and Frothing Berserker though not so much.
The interaction between Warsong Commander and Frothing Berserker though not so much.
The deck as a whole is fine tbqh
That was a side note and not specific laddering advice, I don't know how Echo Mage fares in other matchups. If you want to climb just play one of the gorillion cancerous aggro decks available as that's what Blizzard wants you to do.
That was a side note and not specific laddering advice, I don't know how Echo Mage fares in other matchups. If you want to climb just play one of the gorillion cancerous aggro decks available as that's what Blizzard wants you to do.
Emerson
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I'm not interested in climbing ranks, I'm interested in playing varied classes and decks, completing quests, and having fun while doing it, not constantly running into one strategy that is excessively dominant.
Where are you playing that Patron is excessively dominant and aggro doesn't make up >70% of decks? Legit interested because it's certainly not EU between ranks 17 and legend
NotoriousPUG
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I play a mill juggernaut deck that's basically built to just counter everything and drag the game out. 3 brewmasters, healbots, bgh, double brawl, Harrison, iron jug, cold light. Tons of fun to play. You just have to adjust your brewmaster plays based off what your opponent is playing.
Well the problem is the same for any single non-Legendary card so when generalized: https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthston..._is_the_chance_to_get_card_x_in_your_opening/
oh shit I need to set that deck up to get the remaining 50 warrior wins, I forgot that I had an iron juggernaut
BananasWithGuns
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Just faced a control Hunter. Used Explosive Sheep + Feign Death to clear my board.
Think my head exploded a little bit.
Think my head exploded a little bit.
I have an idea for a Boom Nerf that probably has been thought of before,
Change the bombs' Deathrattle to deal 1-2 damage to a random enemy.
Add text to Boom that says Boom Bot Deathrattle does 1-4 damage instead.
Might be a bit too cumbersome for their design simplicity, but I think that'd be the best way to handle it.
Making the booms have less of a potentially powerful swing after you clear Boom is a needed change.
Change the bombs' Deathrattle to deal 1-2 damage to a random enemy.
Add text to Boom that says Boom Bot Deathrattle does 1-4 damage instead.
Might be a bit too cumbersome for their design simplicity, but I think that'd be the best way to handle it.
Making the booms have less of a potentially powerful swing after you clear Boom is a needed change.
Hmm I don't hate it at all but Blizz indeed would
Just lower their max damage by 1 so it's 1-3 or just make it a flat 2 damage to reduce the RNG factor.
I lost a board of BGH (which killed the Dr), Shield Maiden which was at 5/3) and Blackwing Corruptor to Dr Balanced today...
You don't want to INCREASE the RNG factor of a card as a way of nerfing it, that just results in cards like Tinkmaster (too much RNG to be playable).
I'm reducing RNG; since if Boom is dead, the bombs can only deal 1 or 2 damage. Maybe it'd have to say friendly Boom Bots, so the enemy Dr. doesn't buff yours, but other than that, it's a pretty straightforward change.
Main body becomes 7/5. Boom bots do flat 2 damage as deathrattle.
That's still my favorite approach. Haven't heard anything better than that.
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Professor Lich
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A four Mana Flamestrick will do that to you!
Also, thanks for the replies about a tech deck guys. It sounds more fun in my head than it probably actually is.
Yea that's the best change IMO. I will even settle for just 2 damage from Bots and keeping the body the same.
Is that why she had so many viewers? Seemed unusually high for her.
What is the dream?
which dream?
This made me laugh out loud.
I wonder how long it will take for me to get this jaded.
I guess I'm still in the Hearthstone honeymoon period.
FiveSix4Three
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Everyday I play this game I ask myself "why is mad scientist not nerfed yet?"
But still I keep playing...
But still I keep playing...
Srsly
Mad Scientist nerf is like 10x more overdue than the Dr. Boom nerf. It was like the progression of Hunter and Mage decks ever since its release was all about realizing just how OP it is. Nobody even has to put in more than 2 secrets.
MetroidPrimeRib
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I'm going to have to use this one the next time I lose to Patrons, thanks
FormallyFamicom
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Been playing for over a year and I have no bitterness. But I absolutely cannot crack out on this game, I just play enough each day to do dailies and Arena runs. If I grinded ranked I'd probably go insane too.
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