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Hearthstone |OT3| Preparing for the Ball of Spiders Meta
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We still have the shaman legendary and they are due for a good one.
Frostwolf Warlord costs a full mana point extra, and is honestly not that bad of a card. With just one totem she's a 5/5, which is OP for a vanilla at the same cost. I don't think she's bad by any stretch of the imagination, it's just not clear if she's good enough.
Shaman has the 2nd best class legendaries,next to warlock.
Minsc
Gold Member
This is easy to answer, just ask yourself: Would face hunter run it if it were a hunter card? If the answer is yes, then it's good enough.
So... I guess I should stop playing Dr Boom because face hunter don't run him?
Mid-range hunter runs him, good enough for me.
FieryBalrog
Member
Some of these cards are, in fact, not bad.
I think Maiden of the Lake is actually quite playable, and people aren't giving it enough credit. It's flexible, neutral, non-terrible defensive stats, and synergizes with the whole theme of the expansion as well as plenty of existing things.
I think Maiden of the Lake is actually quite playable, and people aren't giving it enough credit. It's flexible, neutral, non-terrible defensive stats, and synergizes with the whole theme of the expansion as well as plenty of existing things.
Could be a good midrange card, it's likely to live a turn and leads into a very powerful hero power + Argus play. In fact bringing back the all but dead midrange type seems to be one of Blizzard's main goals with TGT.
Maiden of The Lake is ok but how many 4 drops you can put in a deck? It's highly contested between class cards and Shredder. This card is good if you're making a hero power deck, then you pick it over a shredder.
There is no way a mid range mage for example pick this over water elemental.
Patron Warrior will thank you for playing this too
It's a target for cabal shadow priest and shadowmadness as well. It's really not a good 4 drop in current meta.
There is no way a mid range mage for example pick this over water elemental.
Patron Warrior will thank you for playing this too
It's a target for cabal shadow priest and shadowmadness as well. It's really not a good 4 drop in current meta.
Officerrob
Banned
Meh, I need to see a lot more cards to even begin thinking that Maiden of the Lake would be good in a competitive deck
FieryBalrog
Member
Well I mainly play Warrior and Priest, and both lack good 4-drops for their control/mid-range archetypes. Warrior has 2x Death's Bite, and Priest has 2x Auchenai, and sometimes I have no other four drops at all.
Patron isn't going to make every creature with 1-2 attack unplayable.
BananasWithGuns
Member
I think there is a decent chance Draenei Totemcarver could surprise people if totem synergy turns out to be somewhat decent.
A turn 4 5/5 would happen pretty frequently and making it a 6/6 wouldn't be that rare either depending on how the first few turns shake out.
Will it be better than Shredder? Probably not, but it could end up being better than Fireguard Destroyer depending on the deck makeup.
Maiden of the lake could work in oil rogue, it likely lives a turn and having your daggers cost one less, let you squeeze some combos. If you play it on turn 4 without dagger, you can equip, use a 0 spell and oil without prep.
Totem Carver isn't terrible, my idea of totem shaman is to have sticky things on the board for bloodlust win and shredder is better for that.
Totem Carver isn't terrible, my idea of totem shaman is to have sticky things on the board for bloodlust win and shredder is better for that.
RumblingRosco
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I just got destroyed by a Murloc Paladin in this Brawl. Turn one Grimscale Oracle x2 and Coldlight Seer followed by a Divine Favor.
Uh ok.
My turn 1 I play a big minion. His turn 2: Old Murk-Eye, Murloc Warleader, Annoy-o-Tron.
RIP me.
Uh ok.
My turn 1 I play a big minion. His turn 2: Old Murk-Eye, Murloc Warleader, Annoy-o-Tron.
RIP me.
Finally achieved the 12-win Arena run. Went 10-0, 10-1,11-1, 11-2, 12-2. Decklist below (having trouble uploading the images):
Arcane Shot
Abusive Sergeant
Leper Gnome
Timber Wolf
Webspinner x2
Glaivezooka
Explosive Trap x2
Annoy-o-Tron
Bloodfen Raptor
Mad Bomber
Mad Scientist
River Crocolisk
Scavenging Hyena x2
Animal Companion
Kill Command
Unleash the Hounds x2
Arcane Golem
Blackwing Technician
Lil' Exorcist
Raid Leader
Dread Corsair
Piloted Shredder
Blingtron 3000 (which gifted a Doomhammer to seal the 12th win
Stampeding Kodo
Drakonid Crusher
Rewards were 220+30+150+75 (total 475) gold and a pack.
That feeling when you create a Face Hunter in Arena and it works
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
Well, your opponent had 7 health. You had a fireball in hand. You had an azure drake. You had clear lethal and yet you chose to drake and then fireball a sludge belcher. You should have won this despite tossing every minion you had into a flamestrike, despite going all face with spells despite clearly lacking lethal, and despite them getting antonidas + stealth spare part combo.
I only watched a few turns but it was obvious to me that you're lacking basic process + strategy. The turn when you ping'd him down to 7, you should have already known your next turn was fireball + ping. Or azure drake + fireball. You had the fireball in hand. Even if you top decked it, your first thought at that point needs to be "how do I win? do I have lethal?". The answer would have been yes and you would have won.
So you simply need to think ahead and evaluate your turns better. Simple basic stuff tbh.
How is that better than Blackrock?
Emperor Thaurissan, Quickshot, Imp Gang Boss, Fireguard Destroyer, Flamewaker and Grim Patron are top tier cards. Then there are other cards like Solem Vigil and Blackwing Corruptor that get solid use.
That's from a 31card set.
Servbot #42
Unconfirmed Member
Finally achieved the 12-win Arena run. Went 10-0, 10-1,11-1, 11-2, 12-2. Decklist below (having trouble uploading the images):
Arcane Shot
Abusive Sergeant
Leper Gnome
Timber Wolf
Webspinner x2
Glaivezooka
Explosive Trap x2
Annoy-o-Tron
Bloodfen Raptor
Mad Bomber
Mad Scientist
River Crocolisk
Scavenging Hyena x2
Animal Companion
Kill Command
Unleash the Hounds x2
Arcane Golem
Blackwing Technician
Lil' Exorcist
Raid Leader
Dread Corsair
Piloted Shredder
Blingtron 3000 (which gifted a Doomhammer to seal the 12th win
Stampeding Kodo
Drakonid Crusher
Rewards were 220+30+150+75 (total 475) gold and a pack.
That feeling when you create a Face Hunter in Arena and it works
Congratulations! I won my 12 wins awhile back with warlock, too bad i have had very bad runs since
TheSadRanger
Banned
Finally achieved the 12-win Arena run. Went 10-0, 10-1,11-1, 11-2, 12-2. Decklist below (having trouble uploading the images):
Arcane Shot
Abusive Sergeant
Leper Gnome
Timber Wolf
Webspinner x2
Glaivezooka
Explosive Trap x2
Annoy-o-Tron
Bloodfen Raptor
Mad Bomber
Mad Scientist
River Crocolisk
Scavenging Hyena x2
Animal Companion
Kill Command
Unleash the Hounds x2
Arcane Golem
Blackwing Technician
Lil' Exorcist
Raid Leader
Dread Corsair
Piloted Shredder
Blingtron 3000 (which gifted a Doomhammer to seal the 12th win
Stampeding Kodo
Drakonid Crusher
Rewards were 220+30+150+75 (total 475) gold and a pack.
That feeling when you create a Face Hunter in Arena and it works
W--why did you take a screenshot of your computer monitor with a cell phone?
Somehow this keeps happening
The Shaman totem cards are dependent on how strong that archetype ends up being. Advantage of Totem Golem is that it's usable even outside of Totem archetype. Same for Tuskar Totemic IMO.
I really like Sacred Warrior. Main problem with Light Warden was the low heallth which meant you couldn't combo twice with Pyromancer. It gives Priest a much needed reliable burst damage source.
The Warlock card is interesting. It's usable as a 8 drop in Handlock. Need to be playtested to see how it stacks up with Emperor in that deck.
The Hunter Lock n Load card could have stupid implications.
Rest of the cards are generally at least solid in Arena with massive snow ball potential.
oh yeah, aside from the legendaries, that stupid webspinner card and the new 1/8 card all the cards revealed so far are good arena picks
BananasWithGuns
Member
Honestly I think there's a decent number of cards that will see regular play.
Effigy
Fallen Hero
Justicar Trueheart
Lock and Load
Sacred Warrior
Totem Golem
Tuskarr Totemic
And there's more that I think have an okay chance of seeing play as well.
Draenei Totemcarver
Frost Giant
Garrison Commander
Maiden of the Lake
Nexus-Champion Saraad
Silver Hand Regent
Maybe I'm too optimistic about some of these cards but I really feel like all those cards have a chance to be successful in various decks.
Effigy
Fallen Hero
Justicar Trueheart
Lock and Load
Sacred Warrior
Totem Golem
Tuskarr Totemic
And there's more that I think have an okay chance of seeing play as well.
Draenei Totemcarver
Frost Giant
Garrison Commander
Maiden of the Lake
Nexus-Champion Saraad
Silver Hand Regent
Maybe I'm too optimistic about some of these cards but I really feel like all those cards have a chance to be successful in various decks.
I disagree. 90% of the time your belcher gets slienced by beatdown decks. This card will be less likely to be silenced, and if they do burn an owl on it, you can then just drop your belcher and stabilize from there. Aggro can't afford to kill a 1/8, and if they do, it's a better card than Healbot. I'm optimistic for it.
If someone spends Silence on a Mogushan then they are less likely to have another for the following Belcher drop. At that point if that happens then you win the game.
If you put down this card, the opponent will still go face and put down a Shredder maybe a Loatheb. When you put down your Belcher it will get Silenced (because no one is going to silence a 1/8 no Taunt) and then proceed to pressure you or kill you.
I am not convinced that this card is even better than Mogushan Warden.
Well, it's not like there's a button on your keyboard that says Print Screen or anything like that.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
So this happened. What was I even supposed to do here? Pray?
Just kill his Sylvanas with the mirror entity Sylvanas. His deathrattle should proc first and yours second, which means you steal back whatever he takes.
edit: that is, unless mirror entity deathrattles always trigger before what triggered mirror entity.
So I can show friends in person later on my cell phone quickly. I am aware of the printscreen function if that's what you're inferring...
When I think of anti-aggro/anti-burn decks, I think of these cards (minus spells of course):
Annoyotron
Unstable Ghoul
Armorsmith
Earthen Farseer
Senjin
Mugushan Warden
Belcher
Healbot
Deathlord
Doomsayer
Abomination
Wild Pyromancer
Sunfury Protector/Defender of Argus
Basically either an anti aggro is a really cheap, early game minion or a mid game heavy taunt. Only exception here is Healbot because of its exceptional heal in one turn.
Annoyotron
Unstable Ghoul
Armorsmith
Earthen Farseer
Senjin
Mugushan Warden
Belcher
Healbot
Deathlord
Doomsayer
Abomination
Wild Pyromancer
Sunfury Protector/Defender of Argus
Basically either an anti aggro is a really cheap, early game minion or a mid game heavy taunt. Only exception here is Healbot because of its exceptional heal in one turn.
Ignore it and go face. Hope you win the 50/50 when the priest makes the trade.
So dumb they didn't make the shamen one summon 2 random totems...
TheChewyWaffles
Member
Priest at +4 is going to be murder :\
Allowing the player to pick one can be pretty damn good (and clutch).
It is better. It no longer takes 2 health.
I always laugh when I see that the Warlock one doesnt change
At least Blizz realize that they already have such a strong hero power, and making it better would break the class
The bonus is that you can always choose the totem you summon, regardless of what is already on the board.
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