Running 2x Conceal for Thaurissan and one MoD to follow up could be worthwhile, but you'd need to include other uses for the stealth for when you don't draw him. Edwin for sure, Violet Teacher is a decent target already and on top of that you could run a Cold Blood for the 1 mana 8 damage burst on any leftover minions. Oil/Miracle Rogue will definitely be interesting to experiment with.
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Hearthstone |OT3| Preparing for the Ball of Spiders Meta
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Aquavelvaman
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Today I learned that if you kill Fuegen and Stalagg at the same time the enemy gets 2 thaddius's ㅡㅡ
We've all been there my friend.
RumblingRosco
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Hogger would work well in that deck I think.
Seeing as one of the first class cards to be released with BRM is Quickshot, how do you think that card can fit into a Face Hunter deck? I'm using
http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/136213-gvg-face-hunter-season-9-legend-24-na
as a base example. I think Leeroy needs to be cut and replaced with Quickshot if you're running Quickshot because it clogs up your hand. Another candidate is the 2nd UTH which would mean running just 1 UTH, or 1 Wolfrider because both of them effectively do just 3 damage but Quickshot has utility with the draw as well (and also can't be blocked by taunt). Actually come to think of it, most face hunter decks would probably just swap Wolfriders with Quickshot although you then lose synergy with Knife Juggler.
http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/136213-gvg-face-hunter-season-9-legend-24-na
as a base example. I think Leeroy needs to be cut and replaced with Quickshot if you're running Quickshot because it clogs up your hand. Another candidate is the 2nd UTH which would mean running just 1 UTH, or 1 Wolfrider because both of them effectively do just 3 damage but Quickshot has utility with the draw as well (and also can't be blocked by taunt). Actually come to think of it, most face hunter decks would probably just swap Wolfriders with Quickshot although you then lose synergy with Knife Juggler.
RumblingRosco
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Hearthstone |OT6| Don't dragon, release the patch already!
TheChewyWaffles
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Been getting a lot of value from Black Knight lately against belchers and other taunts. Even semi-aggro decks run a belcher or even two.
BumperLips
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Like you said, it's either going to be UTH, wolfrider or leeroy, though leeroy is a strong finish and can be combined with uth for 2 more dmg if needed. Also could replace one worgen with it.
But seriously, fuck this card. Like Face Hunters really needed something so they can chain topdeck into more bullshit?
Looks like someone at Blizz was missing the good old Soulfire face - tap - Doomguard play
Trying to build a priest deck and it's hard to see where these dragons fit in whilst also trying not to get run over by face hunters and mech mages.
The meta definitely revolves around those two decks. I'm expecting to see a ton of face hunters (and aggro in general) to take advantage of everyone playing dragons, with quite a few paladins. At least for the first week or two (I think even longer).
The meta definitely revolves around those two decks. I'm expecting to see a ton of face hunters (and aggro in general) to take advantage of everyone playing dragons, with quite a few paladins. At least for the first week or two (I think even longer).
Haunted
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CONTROL IS BACK, BABY
Professor Lich
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Back on Majordomo, he might see use in Warrior. They can have armor up before the transformation. That being said, it's really only control Warrior who gets a lot of armor and can keep it. Not sure if it fits in that type of deck.
BumperLips
Member
What I'm curious about is, if you activate ice block, and then kill Domo and turn the hero into Rag, is block still active?
Professor Lich
Member
Boooo. Oh well.
Possibly, but it won't be Chromaggus that does it.
Control doesn't live and die by single fatties that don't even help against rush decks at all lol.
I would like to mention that Feign Death while you have both of them out doesn't actually do anything, because neither Stalagg or Feugen is really dead. I made this mistake two separate times.
I would replace one Eaglehorn with a Quickshot and one Wolfrider. I think two Eaglehorns are already a bit clunky in face Hunters especially with a Glaivezooka.
2 UTHs are essential for Hunters.
call_kotaku
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Hearthstone |OT7| Why Can't I Hold All These Dragons?
AntiFacebook
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I wonder how long it will take them to raise the cost of Emperor to 7 (maybe with a stat boost as well) so Emperor+MoD will no longer be an option.
I'm struggling to think of what the order of events would be here: have Ice Block up, play Majordomo when you're low on health (< 8 preferably) but before Ice Block is popped, have the Ice Block pop, kill Majordomo on your own turn, and play another Ice Block?
Seems like a lot of things could go wrong here, like your opponent killing Majordomo then popping your Ice Block afterwards. I guess this strat would lean on getting these cards' costs down before hand to be able to play them in a single turn.
It's also strange considering their whole "Dr Boom will be balanced when we introduce more good 7 cost cards". WHY NOT JUST MAKE EMPEROR 7 THEN.
Super Nothing
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I don't think a 10 mana combo that doesn't immediately do much other than put down a 6/6 and a 4/4 really needs a nerf. That's a slow play, especially for a class that can blow you out with Sharpsword Oil long before turn 10 ever rolls around. Even if they do bump his cost up to 7, Rogues can still use Conceal to make sure that he sticks around for at least two turns, which is more than enough. Emperor might wind up needing a nerf, but I don't think it has anything to do with Master of Disguise.
dave is ok
aztek is ok
Is there a boss list anywhere for the wings?
BlackBuzzard
Banned
Simple, Emperor makes 8 drops cost 7. Single handily balances boom I tell you!
Exactly, unless somehow a legitimate control shell develops Rogue doesn't have the tools to deal with multiple lategame drops, at that point the game is lost and cheaper cards on turn 11 aren't going to change that.
Vanillalite
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GAF I come back to you and humbly ask you to help me tweak my deck again! My current Mage deck has me topping out at rank 12. I still lack a ton of cards and lack legendaries. Yet I feel like maybe a small tweak or two could get me to crack the top 10.
The Lamonster
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Anybody know what time on Thursday BRM is going live?
Why couldn't Quickshot be the last card to unlock? -.-'
RumblingRosco
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I would remove the Arcane Explosion for a second Mad Scientist. Then, when you mulligan, mulligan away any secrets. I'd also consider swapping out one (or both) Duplicates for a second Mirror Entity and possibly another Annoy-o-Tron (if you remove both Duplicates).
Vanillalite
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I had two Annoys, but swapped one for Arcane cause I kept getting matched against Pallys. Maybe I should swap that for either the Scientist or Annoy.
Also I only have 1 mirror entry hence I went with 2 dupes. :/
I thought you guys said the general rule was don't run 2 scientists if I'm running 3 or fewer secrets. Only do it if I run 4+?
Except for a single Harvest Golem you don't have a turn 3 play. You don't want to spend mana on playing secrets, you want the broken Mad Scientist to fetch them for you and use turn 3 to build your board with preferably Tinkertown Technicians and Spider Tanks. If you don't have all of these cards a second Harvest Golem is fine too, you simply need 3-drops.
Also cut the Flamecannon and some of your 4-drops (1x Polymorph - using these in the midgame gives up too much tempo, 1-2x Water Ele and/or a Flamestrike) for some nice cancerous 1-drops like Cockmaster and Clockwerk Gnome. You may run more controlling lategame than most Mech Mages but you're still need to consistently be able to survive until that point, which Mech decks and -Mage in particular only achieve by spamming the board early.
The Ooze isn't really worth the slot either as Annoytron, Chugga and Water Eles if you decide to keep them destroy weapon classes as is.
Also cut the Flamecannon and some of your 4-drops (1x Polymorph - using these in the midgame gives up too much tempo, 1-2x Water Ele and/or a Flamestrike) for some nice cancerous 1-drops like Cockmaster and Clockwerk Gnome. You may run more controlling lategame than most Mech Mages but you're still need to consistently be able to survive until that point, which Mech decks and -Mage in particular only achieve by spamming the board early.
The Ooze isn't really worth the slot either as Annoytron, Chugga and Water Eles if you decide to keep them destroy weapon classes as is.
You run two Scientists whenever you're running secrets at all, then mulligan the latter away like Soka said. Their value even with only two Entities is still off the fucking charts.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
Yeah thats what i was thinking as well.
Face Hunter the dream.
Vanillalite
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Thanks boss. Will edit my deck some at lunch!
For people that are more interested in Arena than Contructed, ADWCTA of Heartharena fame did a really extensive meta review of the cards in Blackrock:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEWZjybgAQY&feature=youtu.be
It's way more in depth than any review I've seen even from the constructed-side of things.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEWZjybgAQY&feature=youtu.be
It's way more in depth than any review I've seen even from the constructed-side of things.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
I would not be so sure ctrl warrior gets some good cards from the expansion. We will have to wait and see how brm shakes up the meta. Im just afraid that facehuntard is going to be even more common.
Current CW won't be able to deal with the power creep, War Axe and Death's Bite are not enough to stabilize against a bunch of 3cc 3/5 and 4cc x/6 minions. I expect it to gravitate further towards a stronger midgame board presence, like it has with a number of lists running Shredder etc., in order to survive as an archetype.
Church. Deathrattles are the bane of my existence.
BumperLips
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Well Warrior will still be great in constructed.
Arena though..
Just feels like Warrior doesn't have a great solid card. Most are only weapons and the rest play with armor which you can't guarrentee in arena. Like if we had something solid akin to Water ele, then itd be good.
Warsong Commander fix is going to really help out though.
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