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BananasWithGuns
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Yeah, I don't see any way that Thaurissan doesn't get nerfed at this point.
He's flat out breaking Shaman for me. One mana Lightning Storm. Dr. Boom and Antique Healbot for a combined 8 mana. It's just insane.
He's flat out breaking Shaman for me. One mana Lightning Storm. Dr. Boom and Antique Healbot for a combined 8 mana. It's just insane.
call_kotaku
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I'm just used to putting down something that turn that would help me turn the board state or do something immediately, even if it isn't on curve. The thing is that he has immense amounts of value but it only becomes realized incrementally over the next couple of turns (assuming that he gets removed immediately as he should be). I guess his usefulness is directly related to how many cards you have in hand and what your opponent will need to use in order to remove him, especially with how many amazing 5 drops there are.
I don't think he'll be auto-include in every deck, and I suspect he might actually end up being more popular in combo and aggro decks as opposed to control decks or ramp druid, since it lets you "cash in" on the value from the card more quickly.
Well they haven't changed Dr Balanced yet so they might keep Emperor Balanced as well.
Maybe try to sell you on the next power creep expansion with some even more broken Legendaries.
Ramp Druid is EXACTLY the type of deck where this card would be broken in. Ramp out an Emperor with Innervate and then you get additional ramp on your huge creatures. In addition it makes Combo Druid EVEN better as now if that card gets put down they have to worry about a Turn 7 combo.
No matter what happens... Emperor is going to get hit by all kinds silences and removals. Players will do whatever to remove him asap. That alone makes him valuable in decks.
Maybe try to sell you on the next power creep expansion with some even more broken Legendaries.
Ramp Druid is EXACTLY the type of deck where this card would be broken in. Ramp out an Emperor with Innervate and then you get additional ramp on your huge creatures. In addition it makes Combo Druid EVEN better as now if that card gets put down they have to worry about a Turn 7 combo.
No matter what happens... Emperor is going to get hit by all kinds silences and removals. Players will do whatever to remove him asap. That alone makes him valuable in decks.
toddhunter
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He'll be played in half the decks, which will be miracle rogues. The other half, which is face hunter may or may not include him.
He had no answer. 0 mana wraths ftw
Emperor Balanced is so, so good in midrange Paladin. I thought he'd be better in Warrior but I didn't see much value there. I'm excited to try him in Ramp Druid but the meta today was not Druid safe. I queued up against so many warriors as Paladin that I ranked up from 18 to 14 without a single loss. Counter picking the people counter picking face hunter. 
Kripparian's top 5 most OP of BRM:
Dark Iron Skulker
Volcanic Drake
Dragon Consort
Skill Shot... I mean Quick Shot
Emperor Balanced (he thinks he's the best)
Mostly agree with this except for Volcanic Drake. I don't think it's OP because of the 4 health. He would've been over powered if he was 6/5.
And yet again Kripp pouring the salt over Quick Shot.
"HEY GUYS WHAT IF THERE WAS A 4 MANA DEAL 6 DAMAGE CARD THAT DRAWS YOU ANOTHER CARD IF YOU TOP DICK IT!!! WOULDN'T IT BE OP?? HURR HURR!!"
Dark Iron Skulker
Volcanic Drake
Dragon Consort
Skill Shot... I mean Quick Shot
Emperor Balanced (he thinks he's the best)
Mostly agree with this except for Volcanic Drake. I don't think it's OP because of the 4 health. He would've been over powered if he was 6/5.
And yet again Kripp pouring the salt over Quick Shot.
"HEY GUYS WHAT IF THERE WAS A 4 MANA DEAL 6 DAMAGE CARD THAT DRAWS YOU ANOTHER CARD IF YOU TOP DICK IT!!! WOULDN'T IT BE OP?? HURR HURR!!"
call_kotaku
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I just think that the card's value is greatly diminished in decks that end up usually only playing one card per turn like Control Warrior or Ramp Druid, and gets exponentially better in decks that have tools to both quickly draw and spend cards like miracle, combo druid, handlock, zoo, or midrange hunter. Basically getting stuff one turn earlier isn't fantastic, especially if you're already behind. He's still very good, better than some general-use legendaries like Loatheb, but I don't think he has as much universal utility as Boom. He doesn't outclass the other 5-6 mana cards for me as much as Boom outclasses the other 7+ mana cards, but I need more time to see what he can do in actual play.
We'll see, though. I'm sure he has some wild applications that none of us are savvy enough to think of, and I'll definitely focus on getting him to work since he's the most interesting card in the set.
The last 3 Bane's of Doom I've played have gotten me Illidan Stormrage, Jaraxxus, and Mal'Ganis.
Hilarious.
toddhunter
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That is the thing though. You only play one card in control warrior or ramp druid because of mana cost.
In the example above? I had a 5 mana anicent of lore. I was then able to draw cards, play a keeper of the grove and wrath all in one turn.
All that and a 5/5 that demands removal.
Seeing Imp Gang Boss at work in the Heroic Emperor Thaurissan just proved to me that he's probably one of the strongest minions in BRM.
It's really awkward to try and kill a 4hp minion in a single attack much of the time.
It's really awkward to try and kill a 4hp minion in a single attack much of the time.
toddhunter
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lol at Kripp's first game. That plan.
Yeah I had the same opinion (I even made a post about it).
If I didn't have Shadow Word Pain then that Imp was really hard to properly remove. Really, really annoying to play against.
He's actively trying to kill his wife too.
If you try to steal his wife then he just throws all his attacks at his wife!
I did that first, but I just got overrun while trying to manage her.
I found it relatively easy with priest. You can even heal her.
This Kripparian Mage challenge game is fucking hilarious right about now.
The other hero spawned two Lore Walker Chos... one was his own and the other from an Unstable Portal he got from his Lore Walker! Then he had a hand full of Portals on which he used Emperor Balanced!
LMAO!
The other hero spawned two Lore Walker Chos... one was his own and the other from an Unstable Portal he got from his Lore Walker! Then he had a hand full of Portals on which he used Emperor Balanced!
LMAO!
rangersfan414
Member
It was extremely hilarious watching that!
veryslowhand
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Silly question, how do you get the cards, ain't suppose to give you something after beatting it in normal?
They will show up in your collection afterwards. You should of also got a pop-up message after beating the boss telling you what card you won.
toddhunter
Member
reducing the cost of your cards is fucking HUGE. completely throws off your opponent excepting a two card combo or more costing X mana and trying to slow you down from using it.
Raxus pls
Look at this beautiful thing. My Druid lives again! Innervate it early and it's like it gave you back 2+ of them.
Yeah that only required like 7 cards.
*Card reduces the cost of all of your cards in hand at the end of the turn this card is played (meaning no way to stop it then turn its played).
*The cost reduction stays forever and ever.
*The cost reduction stacks with other stuff and if he stays alive he keeps reducing costs of cards in hand every turn.
*Can't be killed by BGH.
Basically it enables stuff like ramping him out early, do some damage early on and do a turn 7 FoN + SR combo without even needing an innervate or a turn 9 double Roar combo (again without Innervate). Allows for some ridiculous combos with cheap spells for combo decks.
Expect to see it in just about every combo deck, some midrange and control decks as well.
Kotetsu534
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The combo Druids are coming.
LOL they never went anywhere... Combo Druid was top tier before this expansion even dropped!
toddhunter
Member
Kripp with that turn 2 Grimstone win (Druid spells + millhouse)
I must have really made a warrior sad today.
he uses gorehowl and casts upgrade on it - I swamp ooze it next turn
He coins and uses Emperor Balanced on turn 5 - I kill command him next turn
He drops Dr balance on turn 6 - I deadly shot him next turn
easy win after that
another warrior used emperor balanced and grim patron + 2 cruel taskmasters next turn... but it was too late and he was already a goner
I just have a crappy hunter deck that isn't face or anything
he uses gorehowl and casts upgrade on it - I swamp ooze it next turn
He coins and uses Emperor Balanced on turn 5 - I kill command him next turn
He drops Dr balance on turn 6 - I deadly shot him next turn
easy win after that
another warrior used emperor balanced and grim patron + 2 cruel taskmasters next turn... but it was too late and he was already a goner
I just have a crappy hunter deck that isn't face or anything
i got 100g per boss and 200g for the final one.
droppedbear
Member
Playing the mage challenge and the AI used Millhouse Manastorm and I had pretty much a full hand of unstable portals/mukla bananas, and got a Edwin Vancleef - after all the cards played it spawned out as a 30/30
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Why don't I get these?
It feels like I'm the only one that really doesn't like the weeks where new cards are introduced. I like new cards, but I don't like how the meta is all over the place, and this expansion in particular where it's getting harder and harder to predict or judge what cards the opponent can or will play. I'm sure I'll like it more when the meta stabilises, the same thing happened with naxx and GvG, it's just going to take ages because of this one wing per week stuff.
Yeah as soon as Emperor Balance-san hits the board all planning and outplaying goes out the window.
I really like having the time to play around with new tools multiple times although I wouldn't mind if they released wings every three days or so. And Skillshot from day 1 ruins the fun so hard.
I didn't create it, but what's wrong with this deck? I need a Paladin deck for my daily quest today. I have no dust left, so it'd need to be F2P + Naxxramas cards (excluding Heroic because I am not able to do the Heroic bit yet, it needs decks costing thousands of dust), any suggestions?
Well first of all, it uses pre-nerf undertaker.
Second of all, it's a complete mess of a deck. I can't even say "swap these cards for these other cards" because the deck is so fundamentally flawed that it really needs to be rebuilt from scratch.
Oh. I know everyone says "search on HearthPwn" when I ask for recommendations, but is there one on there that I can afford that sucks less than this?
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