That's an interesting change, too.
Also, wow, not a single person in Ladder or Casual has played an Emp. against me.
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Running Faceless Manip. with Emperor is hilarious. So many auto-concedes.
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That's an interesting change, too.
Also, wow, not a single person in Ladder or Casual has played an Emp. against me.
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Running Faceless Manip. with Emperor is hilarious. So many auto-concedes.
I think you just need more experience with the system and with arena in general. I recommend doing arena runs on another server (EU if you are in NA or vice versa) to get more experience without having the pressure of needing to get a certain amount of wins. Doing that really helped me.
goldenticket
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im ok if it lasts for one turn but i dont like your idea of the cards revert back to their costs if not used.
Exactly what i'm thinking atm. Last expansion it was Dr. Boom, now Thaurissan and meanwhile we have the noble face hunter to keep the meta from spinning out of control.
Huck Funters
It should just be like Loatheb, a one turn deal then business as usual.
FiveSix4Three
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Outside of paladin innervate-o-dragon and possibly chromaggus what exciting cards do you see making consistent appearance in the meta if tharissan gets nerfed?
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thepotatoman
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I think most of us knew Emperor was going to be the best card in the whole pack, but I'd like to wait a month or two before yelling OP. It's going to take a while to get used to the new possibilities and flow of that card, but people will certainly get better at playing against it than they are right now.
Professor Lich
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Do cards show a lowered cost when used? Would be nice to see.
I mean when your opponent has EMP T for a two, do their cards show a lower number?
I mean when your opponent has EMP T for a two, do their cards show a lower number?
Yup. The meta back in open beta was tinkmeister pagle and whoever played pagle first usually won.
In constructed it would be. But there are many more minions in the game than there are spells. Its a consequence of how the drafting system works. This drives arena strategy to be trade heavy tempo stuff, because board clears are so difficult to obtain. So you have to gain an advantage and keep it.
I think it's pretty telling that they could have made the effect a battlecry and it would probably still be one of the best cards in the set.
I like that EMP is very strong because it gives me a reason to play other classes in this meta and other legendaries who wouldn't see the light of day because of them being too slow and because of BGH.
This is the time people should be experimenting instead of crying for nerfs after one day. Give it a month.
This is the time people should be experimenting instead of crying for nerfs after one day. Give it a month.
SentryDown
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BRM is way too easy, I have beaten the whole thing in less than an hour but it's way better than Naxx (boss design, challenges, ...)
Fixed1979
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I'm with you, less than 24 hours after the first cards hit is a little too early to start calling for changes.
Emperor Balanced allowed my Control Warrior to beat a Handlock 10 turns after he was played.
I won't bore with nitty details, but the last turn Warlock was Jaraxxus'd, 15 life, with two wounded taunts and two normal minions. My board was empty and had one use left of Fiery Axe.
0 cost Execute, 1 cost Execute, 8 cost Grommash Hellscream, 1 cost Taskmaster, GG.
I won't bore with nitty details, but the last turn Warlock was Jaraxxus'd, 15 life, with two wounded taunts and two normal minions. My board was empty and had one use left of Fiery Axe.
0 cost Execute, 1 cost Execute, 8 cost Grommash Hellscream, 1 cost Taskmaster, GG.
Speaking of auto-include.
Pagle was the ultimate auto-include must have opening hand drop.
daemissary
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All this Pagle talk just makes me super sad that he is the only Golden Legendary I've pulled from a pack.
Now you know son...
There are many clutch plays that are produced by the Emperor. A fairly standard play that happened for me yesterday was killing an enemy Rag with BGH at 2 mana and putting down a Ysera in the same turn for 8 mana. It was a huge tempo swing for me that won me the game.
Otherwise I would've had to choose between playing Ysera or BGH as I had no other big minion to follow up BGH.
This is a very common thing that will happen due to Emperor. I have seen more outrageous things happen like Belcher plus Dr Balanced.
Every midrange and control deck has ramp now, so Druid isn't alone in "cheating". Dragon Paladin with Emperor plus 2x Dragon Consort has crazy ramp. Even if Emperor lasts only turn, that's a three mana discount on any in-hand Dragons if you played a consort at any point earlier in the game, not to mention any Dragon synergy cards you had in hand also get the 1 mana discount from Emperor. I'm really excited to try out Dragon Ramp Paladin and I don't think I'm alone. Will it be a "tier one" deck? We'll have to see what the meta does to counter Dragon decks, and how Dragon decks respond, but I think it might be a very powerful archetype.
Also, combo Druid doesn't seem so special when Emperor unlocks so many more possible one turn combos because he effects every card in hard.. If you have four cards in hand then Emperor is at least equivalent to double-innervate, and he might be better because you don't have to draw them. The advantage of innervate is that you can choose when to use it and you can hold it for a specific situation, and Emperor is dependent on what you've drawn.
Also, Golden Cenarius is arguably the best Golden minion. Dude is holding a shiny, shimmering rainbow, and you get two Golden Treants with taunt. #value
Maybe Sneeds or Jaraxxus would argue with him for the title. Maybe.
FiveSix4Three
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Didnt realize it until i saw it on savjs stream...you can now jaraxxus +hero power on the same turn now thanks to emperor.
Thats pretty huge.
Thats pretty huge.
It's especially awkward when the other casters have no idea how to deal with it and the cast devolves into minutes of Amaz explaining his epic memes
Just fired up PoE but I absolutely have to see the new ridiculousness in a tournament setting
None of that compares to double innervate nonsense. The 2nd reason I don't like druids is the combo, as it smells too much like the old leeroy miracle. At least they don't have sap.
I just don't like listening to him at all period. I find him very annoying.
Servbot #42
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Just like Dr boom huh?
Chmpocalypse
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So fun. I've been playing it all the time since we got the internal alpha, it's the good kinda RNG. : D
It's going to be beautiful.
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I'd recommend it. Even other than Boom, giants and numerous other minions are targets.
I wouldn't want to see something nerfed unless it became very overwhelming, but EMP does highlight the bigger issue where so many cards never get played because they suck, are too slow in this meta, or their worth is dependent on their ability to be targeted by BGH. And with GvG making the game more aggressive, you need to play more high value cards which makes Dr. Boom an auto-include because of how much value you get from the card even with BGH.
What Blizzard is doing is deliberate which is why EMP is so strong and is the first legendary being offered, and it opens the door for lots of ridiculousness to take place. I'm more excited to see what I can come up with using that card versus playing crap like face hunter, so I'll wait to see how things look after a month.
Yeah, I can see Emperor getting played in every non-aggro deck, but I'm not sure Blizzard actually thinks it's a problem for one card to be ubiquitous when the function of that card is to make lots of kinds of decks playable. Dr. Boom is problematic because it's just an auto-include in otherwise-viable decks - like, you could remove the card from the game and the meta would plausibly be pretty similar (except there'd be fewer BGHs). Emperor creates a big shift towards slower decks that have lots of cards in hand or which have combos that would be great except they cost 11 mana.
poppedcollar69
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is it possible to beat mill as control?
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