I love playing face hunter. Easy wins for control warrior. and it keeps other cancer decks like mech mage and zoo in check.
The thing that really makes me rage is mages with mirror entity.
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I love playing face hunter. Easy wins for control warrior. and it keeps other cancer decks like mech mage and zoo in check.
The thing that really makes me rage is mages with mirror entity.
Thanks.
I don't have Abusive Sergeant, Glaivezooka, Explosive Trap, Quick Shot, Ironbeak Owl, Knife Juggler, Eaglehorn Bow or Arcane Golem and I only have one Unleash the Hounds.
There's always Trump's basic level 10 Hunter deck I suppose, does that count as Face Hunter?
You should write a primer to help new players figure out face hunter.
There's a pretty good guide here:
http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/210553-face-hunter-detailed-guide-legend-17-na-wreck-that
You should really craft an Ironbeak owl. Pretty much staple in nearly any deck.
TetraxShards
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Oh please. These players you're talking about don't even exist. They're at Rank 25 No Stars, playing decks with Goldshire Footman and such. If you're playing Face Hunter, you're trying to rank up faster, that means you're not a casual player. It's a strange class of casual player that cares so much about their rank they'll go to HearthPwn, look for a netdeck, and then play the deck that causes them to rank up the fastest. If anything, they'll play basic decks with gimmicks like All Taunts or Priests with the Divine Spirit/Inner Fire combo or Mana Wyrm -> Coin -> Arcane Missles or even the dreaded Turn 1 Holy Smite To The Face.
Playing Face Hunter at Rank 20 isn't casual at all, it's going full tryhard.
I don't even hate the deck. I can beat it most of the time because they simply run out of gas. Midrange Hunter back last summer when they had Buzzard/Timber/Hounds was way worse. I can take being swamped by an onslaught to the face. It's the decks with huge swing potential that only get me mad. Time after time around last summer I would be close to lethal and they would play that combo, suddenly draw 4 cards and have 4 2/1s with Charge.
I took a look at that Trump deck, and it's definitely an aggro deck. Not as well tuned as the list that Chakki made popular, but why not try it out and see what you think? When I started, trying new decks every day kept me going until I had a decent collection and figured out what kinds of decks I preferred. (which, it turns out, is combo decks and greedy control decks).
I decided to try that Lightbomb Priest deck Savjz made popular, but I replaced one Giblin with one Resurrect (because new). Don't have much experience with Priest so I'm not winning a ton, but it's neat to try all these new interactions and cards I haven't ever used before.
It costs 40 dust and I only have 15. I'd have to disenchant like 5 commons just to get enough dust for one
and my rares and above are few and far between so disenchanting them wouldn't be real great for me.He's shown us all.
TetraxShards
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Blizzard would probably change the card text to "Put a random secret into play." Suddenly, EVERY class has secrets.
well I'm not totally sure the point you're trying to make, all I was saying if you take the entire registered player-base of HS, I would bet the vast majority do not post on the HS reddit or NeoGAF, etc
So I don't think it's a good barometer of what people think. Just the same way I always say NeoGAF in general is nowhere close to representative of most people who play video games
Also I guess it depends what your definition of "casual" is. Take me for example... I literally average less than 2 games per day. Because I don't bother to play HS every day. But I only play Face Hunter when I do. I don't care about ranking up. Not sure how that would define me as a hardcore try-hard though
The DREAM!
I don't know about going against a Zoo Deck with secrets in play...
Gully State
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I don't think I've ever beaten a face hunter deck ever (I might have a handful of times when they hit a bad draw- I feel like I play against hunters way too much). Tempted to assemble my own face hunter deck but it feels like a very autopilot style deck where the cards pretty much dictate what the player will do with no real strategic choices..
Gully State
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Yeah I mean rank 12-13 represents the top 15-20% of the player base. I'm sure that pool as is already is high but there's a greater number of casual players that just do their own thing.
TetraxShards
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We can only go off opinions that are actually out there though.
If you're playing to win and playing optimal netdecks like Face Hunter (though I have no problem with netdecking, even my gimmick decks are netdecked), you're not casual IMO. Same if a player spends real money on packs or adventures. They're paying to accelerate their progress. If they were really casual, they wouldn't give a shit about winning.
Personally, I have had to cut down my playing time drastically recently for personal reasons (all good stuff though), so I am just doing my dailies and playing BRM as it comes out. I don't really consider myself a casual though, 'cause I still watch a ton of streams and visit HS threads on multiple forums. I've also spent more money than is sane on this game, not Yoshi level but probably more than I should have. But I don't play any other F2P games except for Path of Exile where's there's no need to spend money at all, so when I have a spare few quid, HS is where it goes.
Anyway, this is pointless. You play Face Hunter, you like it, I'm not gonna change your opinion. If you're having fun, you're having fun.
yeah, we'll just have to see what Blizzard thinks
I hope they keep Face Hunter as effective as now (50/50) but that's strictly a selfish opinion of course
TetraxShards
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It'd be worth it for the first time a streamer loses to a Zoo that gets Ice Block from the Scientist.
I dunno what they would even nerf though. They have already nerfed Eaglehorn and Unleash. I think I'd change Scientist to "Add a secret from your deck to your hand." but otherwise I'm stumped.
Asian arena meta is so aggressive. Was 2-0 as a Hunter, turned into 2-3 after 3 Face Paladins.
Face Paladins as in "let me put Blessing of Kings on this minion and hit you for 8 instead of doing the necessary trades". If I had any silences or UTH they'd been fucked.
Also the last one who coin + Razorfen'd into Tinkmaster turning his 1/1 Boar into a 5/5 Devilsaur didn't help proceedings. Absolutely disgusting.
Face Paladins as in "let me put Blessing of Kings on this minion and hit you for 8 instead of doing the necessary trades". If I had any silences or UTH they'd been fucked.
Also the last one who coin + Razorfen'd into Tinkmaster turning his 1/1 Boar into a 5/5 Devilsaur didn't help proceedings. Absolutely disgusting.
homeworkfilms
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They will change cost of charge. What makes the deck out of control is the ability to do damage to the face and keep a minion on board. The state penalties on charge cards are basically meaningless in a face hunter deck. So hogger, wolf rider, arcane, leeroy and unleash are the cards that make the deck insane. Of those it seems arcane and hogger are candidates for change. Perhaps another tweak to unleash because its overall power level is still pretty high. Of course the other option is the hero power. Randomizing its effect seems to make general sense to me.
FiveSix4Three
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Get rekt with your stealth antonidas bullshit. It's not safe from me.
OTK ftw.
TetraxShards
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I think you mean Huffer, not Hogger? Hogger in a Face Hunter deck would be weird.
I think Animal Companion is fine, you're getting a 4 mana minion for 3 but it's random. It's really strong as a coined 2 drop though.
I don't think I'd be in favour of a nerf to Arcane Golem either. It's a risky play against control unless it gives you lethal. It also serves as a cheap alternative to Leeroy, and I think it's important to have those options.
I'd like to nerf Knife Juggler somehow. The 1 damage is almost never bad even with the randomness.
Druid is so absurd right now...
Im like 8-1 vs face hunter and every game I innervate emperor is like I cannot lose. Today after the dream turn above I played vs a warrior that let emperor stay to try to silvannas it next turn, I silenced it and turn 8 I double combo him. Emperor its just old old buzzard levels of absurd.
Im like 8-1 vs face hunter and every game I innervate emperor is like I cannot lose. Today after the dream turn above I played vs a warrior that let emperor stay to try to silvannas it next turn, I silenced it and turn 8 I double combo him. Emperor its just old old buzzard levels of absurd.
agree on Arcane Golem
I actually don't think it's super great, and like yall said I never play it until the end. It's just way too risky in the first few turns
Mobius and pet octopus
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Mad scientist... I don't feel like this card is as strong as it once was under the UT regime. Still a fairly strong card but deserving of a nerf? Not sure. It isn't gamebreaking like UT was. The tempo value is enormous but at the price of it being a secret, granted they aren't weak but they are also situational and the secret being random.
I personally don't think mad scientist breaks any decks by making them too good. If you feel that way, you might just be in an already bad match up in which case kezan mystic is a bigger value play since it removes a card from their board and places it on your board, while playing a minion.
I think if they didn't introduce kezan mystic, I would say mad scientist has to change.
To be fair, druid was already vastly favored against warrior. In that match up it is likely just a pure win more card tbh.
I personally don't think mad scientist breaks any decks by making them too good. If you feel that way, you might just be in an already bad match up in which case kezan mystic is a bigger value play since it removes a card from their board and places it on your board, while playing a minion.
I think if they didn't introduce kezan mystic, I would say mad scientist has to change.
To be fair, druid was already vastly favored against warrior. In that match up it is likely just a pure win more card tbh.
TheChewyWaffles
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Shhhhhhh
Face hunter takes a lot more skill that people give it credit. Its absurd how many mirrors of face hunter I win because I just hero power every turn while my opponent becomes greedy and that fails to do nothing to a timely explosive trap.
toddhunter
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I really don't think so. Using hero power every turn and then playing a card is the "key" but that doesn't equal skill. That is really all there is to it, so Face hunter is as basic as it gets (especially with quickshot which fixes the only real problem which was running out of cards and hoping for a top deck - see the handlock match up).
Yes Face Hunter takes a lot more skill than people give it credit for (you need to Mulligan properly against certain match ups, Mulligan depending upon turn 1 or turn 2, calculate and optimize damage per turn and think about setting up lethal 2-3 turns in advance, whether to Kill Command a taunt or hold for finisher) but it's still the easiest top level Hearthstone deck to play by quite a margin.
Flizzzipper
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Been trying out the popular snake trap deck, 12-3 so far. It has a lot of the same starting cards as face hunter so it probably tricks quite a few people.
Some dumb Twitch thing I believe.
toddhunter
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It didn't stop mech mage.
I hope all these decks meet each other at rank 5, i hope it so much, I hope they then realise how little of an achievement it was and how unfun it is to play against.
this is the most accurate description
Face Hunter certainly takes some amount of thinking. Just see the examples of bad play by posters above
It just doesn't require as much thinking as other decks
actually this is my favorite match-up in the game. I find it hilariously fun
Mobius and pet octopus
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I wonder how well midrange hunter is atm. I think it is time to craft a weird hunter deck and go lose in casual (not confident in my hunter deck build skills for ranked lol).
wow. so i am climbing on my warrior quite rapidly, have played maybe 11 face hunters and have not even come close to dropping a game against them with the deck, even when drawing and playing like shit some of the time.
standard control warrior just grinds them into dust basically on auto pilot
standard control warrior just grinds them into dust basically on auto pilot
So I finally have enough dust to craft another legendary. Which one should I craft next?
The ones I have so far: Ghaz'Rilla, Prophet Velen, Grommash, Cairne, Hogger, Sylvanas, Toshley and Dr Balanced.
I was thinking Rag or Alex. Or maybe there's some must have epics I could craft?
The ones I have so far: Ghaz'Rilla, Prophet Velen, Grommash, Cairne, Hogger, Sylvanas, Toshley and Dr Balanced.
I was thinking Rag or Alex. Or maybe there's some must have epics I could craft?
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